Was going to start a new thread but may as well add it here. Last year I mentioned we should go after him but didn't as was not required.
Now we may need him. He is playing up in Darwin to resurrect his career.
Forget about Sellar. Go for C.Cloke.
196cm 100kg. Worthy of a low selection IMO...
From an outsiders perspective I cannot for the life of me understand why Pav isn't stationed in the goal square each and every week until he retires irrespective of how many mfs are injured.
ps...I trust Lyon may bring the old Pav back ala Riewoldt.
2 Further points.
1. Jolly should be used in one of 2 ways in the next few years...
a) Playing full forward and allowing Wood to become a man and more to the point...the man.
(For this scenario we do not need Bradley unless we got a long term injury to Dawes or Cloke in which he could...
Re: Pick 25 wasted
Wasted?
1. Macintosh is not up for trade as per Scott's confirmation again today.
2. Clark, Tippett etc are either staying or going to Perth,QLD respectively.
3. Clarke, Elliot and Witts (pick 67) for pick 25...um...yes I'll have one of those.
IMO Collingwood do need to recruit a FORWARD who can pinch hit ruck. Not vice-versa.
Bradley is 26, 199 cm. With 211, Clarke, Griffin on their list and with Clark possibly arriving from Brisbane and with talk of Pav staying closer to goal would Freo be too concerned to lose him? Say a straight...
I guess my question to everyone is if we will be happy with a Wood/Jolly combination next year compared to the Jolly/Brown combination we have had.
Assuming Keefe cannot step up to that forward/backup ruckman position IMO our first and possibly only target should be a player preferably that...
The simple answer to the opening thread question is YES.
Ask any Collingwood supporter worth their grain of salt which players we must have in order for a Grand Final win and most likely they will say in a somewhat similar order...
1.D.Jolly
2.T.Cloke
3.S.Pendlebury
4.B.Reid
5.L.Ball
6.D.Swan...
Not so much a problem but a hypothetical thought...
Most Collingwood supporters would still be happy to send flowers to the hawks recruiters for be being so focused on getting SB with pick 9 allowing Collingwood to give a later first pick plus another for Jolly who was only ever coming to...
Re: All GWS rumour and speculation thread
Was at a 200 people function with Shaw, Dids and Thomas on stage. Shaw seemed confident they would all stay. From memory he said something like: "Swannie will be too old for them" and "Pendles would be our next captain I guess yeah?"
Re Daisy who was...
For fun I asked a few mates (who know enough) who hate Collingwood to rank our top 27 list as harshly as possible...
For simplicity assume Ablett and Judd are 10 and only whole numbers to be used:
Average results were:
1.Swan 9
2.Pendlebury 9
3.Jolly 8
4.Didak 8
5.Maxwell 8
6.O'Brien 8...
As mentioned elsewhere: most likely changes to the best 22 team IMO:
Out: T.Goldsack, J.Blair, B.Johnson
In: C.Tarrant, A.Krakouer, B.Dick
With L. Davis, B.Johnson, T.Goldsack the most likely best emergencies.
None of our most important 18 playing (D.Jolly, T.Cloke, L.Ball, A.Didak, D.Swan, S.Pendlebury, N.Maxwell, H.O'Brien, C.Dawes, B.Reid, N.Brown, L.Brown, C.Tarrant, H.Shaw, S.Wellingham, S.Sidebottom, D.Beams and B.Dick).
Play the rest.
IMO Tarrant is our ace up our sleeve and hence should only be used when really needed. He is 30 and we won a Premiership without him.
Therefore my position for him is SUB.
Not that KS needs any support from anyone but I agree 100% with her on this matter.
The less said about him now the better. The nicest thing i can say is that I hope he is happy.
Cheers Jelly Bean
A few points though mate.
1. L.Brown is the perfect forward/pinch hit ruckman and IMO should not be out of the 21 at all as Jolly needs support and Dawes etc should not be used.
2. C.Tarrant IMO in the side I posted above IMO makes the team too tall so gets the SUB role as...
Keeping things simple.
1. Changes to the Premiership 22 IMO: Out:T.Goldsack, J.Blair, B.Johnson.
In: C.Tarrant, B.Dick, A.Krakouer.
2. Sub Player IMO: C.Tarrant for a variety of reasons.
B: A.Toovey N.Brown N.Maxwell
HB:H.O'Brien B.Reid H.Shaw
C: D.Thomas S.Pendlebury S.Wellingham...
Personally I do not think we have anything to worry about.
Especially with free agency Collingwood simply need to trade for a solid ready to go ruckman (ala a Mumford type).
Ugle will cover Davis and L.Ball and Maxwell's position should be coverable by then.
Didak is like Daicos - cannot be...
We all agree almost unanimously he is our most important player...
so should we play Wood as the number 1 (extra bonus of getting more games into him) with Jolly resting forward or rest Jolly completely and allow L.Brown to continue what he is doing?
Even though Jolly doesn't need to be put in...
Not sure.
Look at the Grand Final this year:
Dawes 2, Sidebottom 2, Wellingham 2, Didak 2, Macaffer 2, Jolly 1, Swan 1, Thomas 1, Johnson 1, O'Brien 1, Goldsack 1, Cloke 0, L.Brown 0 = 16 Goals.
I would be pretty confident in saying your small defenders are just as important (if not more so)...
Fair enough. Hill is silky. Fyfe looks good. Mundy is solid. Add Palmer's grunt and with some of the kids stepping up, Morabito and Barlow could be covered.
Just to clarify...I rate Fremantle and enjoy how they play and a loss to Fremantle (or Hawthorn) would be easier to take than say from St.Kilda.
I used the word "scared" as a nod to someone who posted that being "scared" of Fremantle was the motivation for this thread.
Back on topic it does...
Thankyou jmadrox.
I guess what i wanted a discussion on is that if fremantle are to win a Grand Final soon it will be based around a strong midfield as is usually the case remembering that it would be a very different final compared to one in perth.
If your "window" is actually open now or...
Not at all and to confirm the point of this thread...with all the many threads on key position player desires on this board, there seems to be very little discussion on your midfield. That is all.
Whether you believe it or not, if Collingwood does not go back to back, Fremantle and Hawthorn are...
I could not find a thread on this topic so I apologize if I have missed one.
Duffield (ave 21) is not included as appears to be more of a defender (ala Shaw (ave 21) , Gilbert (ave 22) and Enright (ave 24) etc.
Barlow (ave 27), Broughton (ave 24), Mundy (ave 23) and S.Hill (ave 17) appear to...
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