10 best players I have seen in my time watching the NBA

[theroo]

Agree with most of them...magic should be in there somewhere but i would be hard to find a place and kick someone out.

 

[Yze_Magic]

well what big plays did he make????? name one big one,sean elliot probably made more.......

you are a joke

 

[CURVE]

Magic was a pure as you could get?? Nobody ran an offence or ran the break like Magic. So what if he was 6'9 and could play other positions, when it comes down to it, Magic was a PG and the best damn PG the game will ever see.

Sorry it has taken so long to reply, but I was in shock. I was speechless. My wife considered taking me to hospital, it was that serious.


Anyway it is good to see that thanks to our discussions over the past four years you are finally starting to see the light. I'm almost certain that in the next few months, we will see the end of poor quotes like "Magic was a PG and the best damn PG the game will ever see" or "Jordan is the GOAT", to something more truthful like "MAGIC IS THE BEST DAMN PLAYER THE GAME WILL EVER SEE".

 

[jod23]

Sorry it has taken so long to reply, but I was in shock. I was speechless. My wife considered taking me to hospital, it was that serious.


Anyway it is good to see that thanks to our discussions over the past four years you are finally starting to see the light. I'm almost certain that in the next few months, we will see the end of poor quotes like "Magic was a PG and the best damn PG the game will ever see" or "Jordan is the GOAT", to something more truthful like "MAGIC IS THE BEST DAMN PLAYER THE GAME WILL EVER SEE".

Why so shocked? You have always known I have a great appreciation for Magic. He is my second favourite player of all time, and the second greatest player of all time.

 

[monarch4]

My picks are in no particular order

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Isiah Thomas
6. Tim Duncan
7. David Robinson
8. John Stockton
9. Karl Malone
10. Charles Barkley

Honourable Mention: Dennis the menace (not for his on/off court antics, but purely for his rebounding) and Scottie Pippen

 

[noogie_da_sheep]

Reggie Miller should be on your list tragic

bingo.

 

[Borgsta]

Yze,

if Stockton was so clearly the greatest PG of modern times, how come he only made NBA first team twice in a 20 year career?

edit:

for reference
Kidd has been first team 5 times; Payton twice; Isiah three times.

so given that the experts who you claim know so much have voted Kidd 1st team 5 times, how is he overrated?

answers please.

i still wanna know the answer to this.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Be waiting a while.

When someone dispatches Yze_Magic to the fence, he does one of two things, either a) abuses the poster or b) ignores it.

Oh and he went further than calling Jason Kidd overrated last year. Said both he and Baron Davis were 'overrated hacks' who were 'terrible basketballers'.

Apparently ones worth and ability is decided purely on their shooting clips, hence why he ********canned LBJ despite a great debut year.

 

[Yze_Magic]

Be waiting a while.

When someone dispatches Yze_Magic to the fence, he does one of two things, either a) abuses the poster or b) ignores it.

Oh and he went further than calling Jason Kidd overrated last year. Said both he and Baron Davis were 'overrated hacks' who were 'terrible basketballers'.

Apparently ones worth and ability is decided purely on their shooting clips, hence why he ********canned LBJ despite a great debut year.

when was i dispacthed to the fence? Dream on tiger


Baron Davis is a terrible basketballer. Its that simple. But if you are into a guy who cant shoot to save himself that jacks up 10 threes a game, then go for it

Jason Kidd is the most overrated PG of all time

I canned LBJ when he was shooting about 25% in the preseason BEFORE his debut year

 

[Thewlis Dish]

I canned LBJ when he was shooting about 25% in the preseason BEFORE his debut year

Who would be stupid enough to judge a rookie on his pre-season form before he's even had a chance to play a meaningful game?

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Baron Davis is a terrible basketballer. Its that simple. But if you are into a guy who cant shoot to save himself that jacks up 10 threes a game, then go for it

Your shallow nature of jugding ballers is humourous. A player shoots at a relatively poor clip, so therefore must be a hack and a terrible player.

Totally ignoring said players ability to pass, ability to score, ability to defend etc.

The box-score nick has just changed hands.

Jason Kidd is the most overrated PG of all time

Another of your shallow and blanket statements, with nothing whatsover to back it up.

Why won't you answer the questions about Kidd earlier in the thread? Wouldn't be because they showed you up, would it?

I canned LBJ when he was shooting about 25% in the preseason BEFORE his debut year

And you can't see the stupidity of that?

Seriously, judging players merely on their FG% shows you up as one who not only lacks any in-depth basketball knowledge but also one who simply relies on stats.

Hereby annointed 'Box-score Tragic'.

 

[Crow-mosone]

when was i dispacthed to the fence? Dream on tiger


Baron Davis is a terrible basketballer. Its that simple. But if you are into a guy who cant shoot to save himself that jacks up 10 threes a game, then go for it

Jason Kidd is the most overrated PG of all time

I canned LBJ when he was shooting about 25% in the preseason BEFORE his debut year

With much ignorant denial you should get some cream for it.

 

[Yze_Magic]

Your shallow nature of jugding ballers is humourous. A player shoots at a relatively poor clip, so therefore must be a hack and a terrible player.



.

lol

relatively poor

more like pathetically poor

herbey annointed ' Knows jack******** about basketball' Phat

 

[Crow-mosone]

sorry tragic, but we held elections, and you got voted most ignorant since Ahmad Rashard.

the tie breaker is held next week.

 

[Portmagpies]

Originally Posted by Crow-mosone
Yze,

if Stockton was so clearly the greatest PG of modern times, how come he only made NBA first team twice in a 20 year career?

edit:

for reference
Kidd has been first team 5 times; Payton twice; Isiah three times.

so given that the experts who you claim know so much have voted Kidd 1st team 5 times, how is he overrated?

answers please.



i still wanna know the answer to this.

Quite simply, when Stockton was putting up his biggest numbers, Magic and Mike owned the two guard spots. Kidd and Payton wouldn't have got a look in either. Hell, KJ was putting up ridiculous numbers and was hard pressed making the All-Star team at this time.

Drexler thoroughly deserved his First Team selection in 1991-92.

But I'm still scratching my head at Mark Price getting the gig the following season. That's probably one year Stockton would think he got stiffed.

And I'd agree with him.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally Posted by Crow-mosone
Yze,

if Stockton was so clearly the greatest PG of modern times, how come he only made NBA first team twice in a 20 year career?

edit:

for reference
Kidd has been first team 5 times; Payton twice; Isiah three times.

so given that the experts who you claim know so much have voted Kidd 1st team 5 times, how is he overrated?

answers please.



i still wanna know the answer to this.

Quite simply, when Stockton was putting up his biggest numbers, Magic and Mike owned the two guard spots. Kidd and Payton wouldn't have got a look in either. Hell, KJ was putting up ridiculous numbers and was hard pressed making the All-Star team at this time.

Drexler thoroughly deserved his First Team selection in 1991-92.

But I'm still scratching my head at Mark Price getting the gig the following season. That's probably one year Stockton would think he got stiffed.

And I'd agree with him.

1. sounds like excuses.
2. mike & magic didn't own the 2 guard spots for 19 years
3. How can he be considered the greatest pg if you have a boo hoo story about how he was overlooked and competed against all these great players?
4. see point 1.

 

[Portmagpies]

Excuses? Boo hoo story?

When Stockton was at his peak, he had to contend with Magic and Michael - the two greatest guards in the history of the game.

As great as Stockton is, he simply doesn't compare to these two and neither do Payton or Kidd for that matter.

Not by a long shot.

It stands to perfect reason that by the time Jason Kidd came into his own, and to a lesser degree Payton, Stockton's best years were already behind him. But still he was a perennial All-Star.

And BTW, all the idiot's bagging Isiah need to wake up. Only a busted ankle stopped the Pistons from winning three in a row.

 

[Mike33]

Only a busted ankle stopped the Pistons from winning three in a row.

You're forgetting Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem etc...

 

[Crow-mosone]

Excuses? Boo hoo story?

When Stockton was at his peak, he had to contend with Magic and Michael - the two greatest guards in the history of the game.

As great as Stockton is, he simply doesn't compare to these two and neither do Payton or Kidd for that matter.

Not by a long shot.

It stands to perfect reason that by the time Jason Kidd came into his own, and to a lesser degree Payton, Stockton's best years were already behind him. But still he was a perennial All-Star.

And BTW, all the idiot's bagging Isiah need to wake up. Only a busted ankle stopped the Pistons from winning three in a row.

suggest reading entire thread.

 

[Portmagpies]

You're forgetting Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem etc...

Er, no.

It was the busted ankle.