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KB was good. With the emphasis on WAS. His show with Rothfield demeaned them both. Callers calling in with "Team of the Century" nominations and little else was pathetic for a drive-time slot.

Caller 1: Has anyone already nominated Player X for the "Players with three different vowels in their surname and used to play with their jumper hanging out" team of the century?

KB: Yes, we've had a few calls for him. He could play but he's already on our list. Thank you.

Doc: What would you know Kevin? You're a stupid old fart. Next caller.

Caller 2: Yeah. Am I on? Oh Ok. Can I nominate Player X?

KB: Yes. We've had him a few times. I remember he played a good game against Fitzroy one day at Windy Hill. Is that right?

Doc: Nah you fossil. It was at Moorabbin. Or was it at Vic Park? I dunno. Did he play a couple of games for Melbourne? I'm not sure. Maybe our next caller will know.

Caller 3: What about Player X?

Etc. Etc. Etc. On a drive-time slot. Pathetic. Well done KB but your time was up.
 
Bartlett stuff aside I’ve been an avid SEN listener since day one but I’m really struggling to stay.
Feels like it’s just running out of petrol completely and almost ready for the scrap heap.
 

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peternorth said:
Lets go back in time pre hutchy take over. The place was losing money yes? One wonders if the station survives without hutchy
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Unsure he’s making money now?

Does he keep listeners longer term?

Or is it making some money and it’s content to be a cheap plastic station?

Why not make money but give the station some depth and soul? You could have both.
 
sandeano said:
Yes I am well aware that before Hutchy the station was losing money.
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Actually the station was in profit (making over 7 figures in profit a year for quite a number of years). The investors ,especially the West Australian ones, wanted to drive up the share price to get a return on their investment, hence the merger to create a bigger company. Time will tell, but it's not been positive so far.
 
KB was subtly trolling everyone with his team of the century schtick, the drive time slot never worked with Rothfield who should only ever be taken in microdoses.

KB is a genuinely funny man and his depth and breadth of sporting knowledge is unsurpassed in broadcasting IMO. So its a little sad that a fat schlep like Hutchy has driven him away from radio. Hope KB finds something somewhere on air. Would listen if it's sans Rothfield.

Listening to guys like McClure and Heverin whose sports (well AFL) knowledge starts in 2000 is intolerable. Sam's smug (for what reason?) and Heverins bland insecure warblings are unlistenable.
 
Sam McClure is truly one of the most awful radio presenters of all time. He is constantly wrong about points of fact that even primary school kids would be all over. His depth of knowledge about football extends from shallow within the last 6 years or so, to zilch any further back from there. His knowledge of any other sport seems to be what he just heard on the latest news bulletin. He is sycophantic towards everyone in the football industry. No opinions are hard-hitting or controversial or even interesting. His on-air persona comes across as self-satisfied and aloof from his audience. If you're a talk back caller wishing to discuss the game on-air just be sure to agree with him. Contrary opinions get dismissed without any discussion. Currently filling in on the morning show and is doing a completely horrible job of it.
 

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BRWB said:
Listening to guys like McClure and Heverin whose sports (well AFL) knowledge starts in 2000 is intolerable. Sam's smug (for what reason?) and Heverins bland insecure warblings are unlistenable.
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This lack of knowledge of older VFL/AFL comes through in minor ways in all aspects of footy media.

For example, during the Rich v GC match they were talking about Richmond's record breaking wins/scores and they referred to a match Richmond played at the SCG in 1980 and the commentator said they played the Swans.

Except it wasn't the Swans, it was St Kilda as it was one of the plethora of matches played in the 1979-1981 period at the SCG by an array of VFL sides as the admin began their push for expansion into NSW.

It's a minor thing but it's becoming increasingly common with stations like SEN losing types like Connolly, Fine & KB who knew that history inside and out and entities like Fox Footy & Ch 7 who don't even pay cursory acknowledgement to VFL/AFL history like they used to.
 
Okay rarings result this morning but to be expected this time of year.

Off topic but whenever I read the ratings it reminds me how big and influential stations like 3AW and 2GB are. 3AW are almost at 16%. A huge audiance share.
 
wagstaff said:
This lack of knowledge of older VFL/AFL comes through in minor ways in all aspects of footy media.

For example, during the Rich v GC match they were talking about Richmond's record breaking wins/scores and they referred to a match Richmond played at the SCG in 1980 and the commentator said they played the Swans.

Except it wasn't the Swans, it was St Kilda as it was one of the plethora of matches played in the 1979-1981 period at the SCG by an array of VFL sides as the admin began their push for expansion into NSW.

It's a minor thing but it's becoming increasingly common with stations like SEN losing types like Connolly, Fine & KB who knew that history inside and out and entities like Fox Footy & Ch 7 who don't even pay cursory acknowledgement to VFL/AFL history like they used to.
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I hear you. I cringed last week when they were discussing the Ross Lyon era at the Saints and they were umming and aahing over whether the drawn Grand Final was in 2009 or 2010. In the end they went with "who cares" until a text came in telling them.

It may seem petty and a little pedantic to some, but to me something bigger is at play. When penning a scorching critique of Channel 9 cricket commentary a few years ago, Geoff Lemon used the term "deliberate idiocy" and it struck a chord with me. It's not that they don't know, it's that they make a point of not knowing, and a further point of dismissing their own lack of knowledge. It's like they're thumbing their nose at the audience that their own presence behind a microphone has achieved their own goals and that the needs of the audience are of no consequence. They are oblivious to the fact that we are tuning in expecting to be informed by people whose job it is to research, have a feel for the game and communicate it effectively. Instead, too much sports broadcasting seems to be people wanting to talk among themselves treating the audience as though they're outsiders eavesdropping in. Bruce McAvaney's longevity in sports broadcasting isn't because of his ability to tell a yarn, or crack jokes. He's passionate and knowledgeable about sport and demonstrates an eagerness to share it with the public. And for that he and the likes of Martin Tyler and the late Richie Benaud are respected. No one expects broadcasters to know everything about everything, but don't guess facts without research, and then dismiss it with a "who cares" when you're wrong. It's not about being wrong, it's more about not caring about being right.

It comes down to a lack of respect for the people you are supposed to be providing a service to. The audience deserves better.
 
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Saddened and feeling lost with this news. Ive been listening to kb ever since my family migrated here 30 yrs ago. He's played a huge role in my understanding of footy, rules, culture and history. No doubt he had his flaws but that was part of his charm. And he never took himself too seriously. I loved his banter with his regular guests and also the constant needling of Dr Turf. Trolling at its finest. Ill miss KB. My radio wont be the same without him.
 
Crashy said:
Might be nothing, they just updated facebook, there cover photo has removed doc and kB, is doc gone too?
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saw that the body is still warm!

Marstermind said:
I hear you. I cringed last week when they were discussing the Ross Lyon era at the Saints and they were umming and aahing over whether the drawn Grand Final was in 2009 or 2010. In the end they went with "who cares" until a text came in telling them.

It may seem petty and a little pedantic to some, but to me something bigger is at play. When penning a scorching critique of Channel 9 cricket commentary a few years ago, Geoff Lemon used the term "deliberate idiocy" and it struck a chord with me. It's not that they don't know, it's that they make a point of not knowing, and a further point of dismissing their own lack of knowledge. It's like they're thumbing their nose at the audience that their own presence behind a microphone has achieved their own goals and that the needs of the audience are of no consequence. They are oblivious to the fact that we are tuning in expecting to informed by people whose job it is to research, have a feel for the game and communicate it effectively. Instead, too much sports broadcasting seems to be people wanting to talk among themselves treating the audience as though they're outsiders eavesdropping in. Bruce McAvaney's longevity is sports broadcasting isn't because of his ability to tell a yarn, or crack jokes. He's passionate and knowledgeable about sport and demonstrates an eagerness to share it with the public. And for that he and the likes of Martin Tyler and the late Richie Benaud are respected. No one expects broadcasters to know everything about everything, but don't guess facts without research, and then dismiss it with a "who cares" when you're wrong. It's not about being wrong, it's more about not caring about being right.

It comes down to a lack of respect for the people you are supposed to be providing a service to. The audience deserves better.
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Spot on mate. Ive mentioned that a few times here. The culture is if you make a mistake, who cares, itll be picked up on on Saturday morning off the bench and we all chuckle about it. It's sad.
 
peternorth said:
Lets go back in time pre hutchy take over. The place was losing money yes? One wonders if the station survives without hutchy
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He’s probably doing his arse.
 
BRWB said:
KB was subtly trolling everyone with his team of the century schtick, the drive time slot never worked with Rothfield who should only ever be taken in microdoses.
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I did suggest a few weeks ago that KB was trolling us with the 'Teams of the Century'.

Anyone who leaves an employer on bad terms usually does something on the way out - take a bit of stationery, turn up late and leave early, don't flush the toilet etc. KB's idea was to do 'Teams of the Century' every day - the radio equivalent of not flushing the toilet.

Wonder if there is any risk that he doesn't do the next four weeks and is pushed out early? "KB and the Doc" has already been removed from the SEN website.
 
Marstermind said:
Sam McClure is truly one of the most awful radio presenters of all time. He is constantly wrong about points of fact that even primary school kids would be all over. His depth of knowledge about football extends from shallow within the last 6 years or so, to zilch any further back from there. His knowledge of any other sport seems to be what he just heard on the latest news bulletin. He is sycophantic towards everyone in the football industry. No opinions are hard-hitting or controversial or even interesting. His on-air persona comes across as self-satisfied and aloof from his audience. If you're a talk back caller wishing to discuss the game on-air just be sure to agree with him. Contrary opinions get dismissed without any discussion. Currently filling in on the morning show and is doing a completely horrible job of it.
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Agree totally, unlistenable! Many of mates, can’t stand him on TV, they can’t listen to weekday radio, for his smugness. And he has nothing to be smug about. Dermie, and Carey can be smug, but have at least been somebodies, and are somewhat entitled to be.
 

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