I think the difference is that Whateley's podcasts have multiple clips so they add up in the ratings compare to Newman & Scott who just realise their two compared to Whateley which can have up to like 10 when they get loaded.i dont know how Whateleys podcast can out rate Newman & Scotts,theyre interview with former greats,eg; Kekka, is purely entertaining
and with the departure of Sheehan the shows gone up a level imo