I respectfully disagree with this , tartan is far from accomplished inside , whilst he has never proven to be able to play as a lead up or
one on one forward . Sheds, Lids , and Cotchin have him comfortably covered in regards to versatility IMO .
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one on one forward . Sheds, Lids , and Cotchin have him comfortably covered in regards to versatility IMO .
Ta mate...good to be taught something!!
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Yarran's role is run and carry. essentially a faster version of Houli. Fairly simple. We have a huge problem in run and carry if Bachar gets shut down and Lids doesn't dominate. That, and monster inside mids, are our big weaknesses. You look at the final against North they used physical size inside to get the ball and stop our movement, and outside tried to stop us running. We didn't have the line breakers to come out of half back and rip them up. When we did we scored, easily (That's why we nearly won when we lost the inside badly). Yarran's role is to turn one the best defenses and contested teams around into a team that can score heavily and can break open other teams through speed and kicking skill. Whether that is off HBF, wing or a high HFF it doesn't matter much. His job is to move the ball fast and accurately to our potentially damaging forward line. We have three (plus) good KPFs, including a super star, and we don't score heavily. If we can start isolating our tall KPFs inside 50 we will tear teams apart and make game plan's like North's much less effective against us. Put another way it's not key position players we need (unlike most clubs) it's getting the ball to them to their advantage. That is Yarran's speciality. Simple! What's not simple is turning him form potential into actual top line performance. If we can get to play to his ability in a similar way to Houli we have the AA HBF/wing. TV, JR, Griff (If he can kick straight for goals from inside 50 
) will kick big scores and our % will be sky high.
Yarran adds nothing inside. That's why we got 2 big talented units cheaply. They also really need to up their games to AFL standard. But given where we were at in the 2015 off season we just targeted guys to fill our 2 biggest weaknesses. If we can improve our inside game against monster mids and Yarran plays to his potential we will be much more dangerous. Our pick ups were a bit of a risk but all high return types, given what we need.
) will kick big scores and our % will be sky high.Yarran adds nothing inside. That's why we got 2 big talented units cheaply. They also really need to up their games to AFL standard. But given where we were at in the 2015 off season we just targeted guys to fill our 2 biggest weaknesses. If we can improve our inside game against monster mids and Yarran plays to his potential we will be much more dangerous. Our pick ups were a bit of a risk but all high return types, given what we need.
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Yarran's role is run and carry. essentially a faster version of Houli. Fairly simple. We have a huge problem in run and carry if Bachar gets shut down and Lids doesn't dominate. That, and monster inside mids, are our big weaknesses. You look at the final against North they used physical size inside to get the ball and stop our movement, and outside tried to stop us running. We didn't have the line breakers to come out of half back and rip them up. When we did we scored, easily (That's why we nearly won when we lost the inside badly). Yarran's role is to turn one the best defenses and contested teams around into a team that can score heavily and can break open other teams through speed and kicking skill. Whether that is off HBF, wing or a high HFF it doesn't matter much. His job is to move the ball fast and accurately to our potentially damaging forward line. We have three (plus) good KPFs, including a super star, and we don't score heavily. If we can start isolating our tall KPFs inside 50 we will tear teams apart and make game plan's like North's much less effective against us. Put another way it's not key position players we need (unlike most clubs) it's getting the ball to them to their advantage. That is Yarran's speciality. Simple! What's not simple is turning him form potential into actual top line performance. If we can get to play to his ability in a similar way to Houli we have the AA HBF/wing. TV, JR, Griff (If he can kick straight for goals from inside 50
Yarran adds nothing inside. That's why we got 2 big talented units cheaply. They also really need to up their games to AFL standard. But given where we were at in the 2015 off season we just targeted guys to fill our 2 biggest weaknesses. If we can improve our inside game against monster mids and Yarran plays to his potential we will be much more dangerous. Our pick ups were a bit of a risk but all high return types, given what we need.
I'm also a big fan of his left hook and I'm disappointed I won't get to see Yaz go head to head with Chapman again.
Loved Yarran's 'inside' close work on Chapman's jaw...needs a re-match!
They have all played in the back half and spent much of their formative years there.They all have good attributes to play back there as running defenders. All IMO would have provided much needed run if only we played and developed them there.
So they can all be running players of a wing but cant be running hb flankers wow that is head in the sand stuff.Especially when all have actually played across hb at stages of their careers.
I look at Connor Menadue and think wow!!!!! extreme pace, beautiful kick, big tank can actually go hard forward and get back and while skinny still lays tackles. He also knows when to run of and when to stand his man. FFS HE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT COMING OF HB. Dont start me on McIntosh, he was an obvious massive upgrade on Batchelor and yet we have never played him across hb. He is a natural running defender and imo we are missing an opportunity here.
Oh by the way Conca played a lot of his footy across hb at Perth imo to succeed he needs the play in front of him.
Any way enough if you cant see outside the square whats the point.
IYO of course.
The only time we can call this trade a good one is when Yarran actually plays a lot of good footy for us. I would have loved to have pick 31 this year and any second round pick next year will be worth having.
Good trade bad trade we wont know for two or three years.
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It's one of those weird ones where in hindsight we were probably better off with 2 second rounders in this draft - but due to the perceived lack of depth and the considerable deviation from expected picks, the first seemed critically important leading in. Still very bullish about Rioli though.
Insofar as McIntosh, we did play him in the magoos as a running defender in the position you have said. I think you have looked over the fact that noth McIntoah and B Ellis are one and two at the club for gut running, thys why they are played on the wings. You listen to interviews from Rance, Grimes and Chappy last year and they will praise Taylor Hunt as the 7th defender, and Ellis and McIntosh who work their arses off to get back. I think it's great and logical to put your two best gut runners in positions where they can cover the most ground. Especially with a rotation restriction low next season.
And Connor Menadue as you mentioned may play some HBF. Certainly did at times in the 2s last year. But he (and Drummond et al) must EARN the right to play there - or anywhere for that matter.
Ive asked this of others, and to be honest I haven't had a response which has swayed my opinion in the slightest - maybe you could do that. People say that two second round picks isn't worth it for Yarran, but if you look at the success of secobd round picks, you would find that history tells you its not high. Furthermore, those who do have success - and consistent success - generally only start to have success in years 3 and above. We selected 5 selections last year - all of which have shown something. Add the likes of Jayden Short, Castagna, Soldo, Chol, Moore and Marcon and there is more than enough youth on our list to justify giving two players who may not amount to quality AFL players, and may take a few seasons to get there over a proven AFL player who adds pace and skill, and can play in multiple positiona all with some x-factor. Sooner or later we have to atop building young assets and start to funnel towards building a premiership contender.
For someone who often indicates that other people just don't see it, or that they just don't have the knowledge you have, you often rant a lot about things that aren't actually correct mopsy. Many of the players you claim that we haven't tried developing at HB have played at half back at some point in their career.
He is being developed off half back. Played out the end of last season in the back half. He's a while off it, though.
Has played off half back in the VFL but didn't set the world on fire. Is currently filling a much bigger need as a hard running wingman.
Played off HB in his early years at the club but didn't set the world on fire, clearly played a lot better as an inside mid which is a position we are lacking in.
He is being developed off half back. Played out the end of last season in the back half. He's a while off it, though.
Has played off half back in the VFL but didn't set the world on fire. Is currently filling a much bigger need as a hard running wingman.
Played off HB in his early years at the club but didn't set the world on fire, clearly played a lot better as an inside mid which is a position we are lacking in.
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this is the same as the corey ellis thread, it's like xmas has come again
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It would an interesting statistic showing if there's any correlation between increased game impact vs 1st game against the player's old team.
Obviously based on a few motivations, it would make sense. I seem to have a few recollections of better players doing better than previous weeks.
The difference is it is R1 for Yarran (altough preaseason games we'll see a bit).
With the hype of R1 added, a fired up Yarran just makes it even a scarier scenario for the Tankers.
Obviously based on a few motivations, it would make sense. I seem to have a few recollections of better players doing better than previous weeks.
The difference is it is R1 for Yarran (altough preaseason games we'll see a bit).
With the hype of R1 added, a fired up Yarran just makes it even a scarier scenario for the Tankers.
Not really. Yarran fired up usually ends up detrimental to his performance. He just needs to stay switched on for an entire game which he has rarely done. (suppose that was all Carlton's fault hey)
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Nah not really. I could unload on Richmond and their consistency to fail when it matters but it's the wrong place.
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Yes. As you know there are quite a few players that have left that confirm this. No doubt it was Carlton's fault.
But we'll find out R1....hope you can be there to listen to the roar.
Absolutely. Yep we had a outdated coach playing a gamestyle that suited another team. Oh well. Rebuild time. Hope you were there for our last final against you to hear our roar.
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Sounded more like a squeal.
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Go off and enjoy your wooden spoon. back to back next year
YouTube the Judd goal in the final term if u need to. It will jog the memory.
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there was 20k of you... norf were louder imo
Can no longer take Carlton seriously as a big club, Their attendances memberships, state of their list as well as their financial position all indicates that they are now and will probably be for a very very long time an insignificant team that just struggles at the bottome of the ladder collecting wooden spoons on a regular basis.
They have put all their eggs in the sos basket but with a good analysis of sos drafting history thats a massive problem of its own and has had more misses than hits with so many early picks he has for the gws.
Carlton have the worst list in the league and will remain bottom 5 for the next 3-4 year atleast
I personally think that they are no longer deserving of the 1st game of the year match up to richmond and should be replaced by Collingwood/Hawthorn or Geelong Versus Richmond - No need to reward mediocrity
They have put all their eggs in the sos basket but with a good analysis of sos drafting history thats a massive problem of its own and has had more misses than hits with so many early picks he has for the gws.
Carlton have the worst list in the league and will remain bottom 5 for the next 3-4 year atleast
I personally think that they are no longer deserving of the 1st game of the year match up to richmond and should be replaced by Collingwood/Hawthorn or Geelong Versus Richmond - No need to reward mediocrity
The Judd trade was the beginning of the end for them. They could sure use Kennedy and Masten right now.
Oh yeah. The Judd trade won them that final against us, yes. But that's also the main reason they're rubbish now. Glad we haven't sold the farm for an EF win.
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