WSYD 17,127 tickets sold to Sydney v North at ANZ

[ringleader]

Riiight

Well look up their crowd averages when they play in Sydney. It's well known and Sydney clubs often take home games against NZ and play them in NZ because they get poor crowds against them.

Sydney clubs have played home games against NQ to Brisbane and the GC in the past too.

 

[cos789]

Subiaco vs West perth > Parra vs Warriors .

 

[Professor Knowall]

Subiaco vs West perth > Parra vs Warriors .

Not to mention a whole lot of finals played in a score of country and suburban leagues across Victoria this weekend!

 

[SydneyGoose]

I know everyone seems to think that the SCG woudn't have made a difference to the crowd, but as a swans fan who lives closer to telstra than to the SCG, who spends 20 minutes walking through a 100m tunnel after each SCG match because of the new grandstand works, I can tell you that I only attend telstra matches because the swans are playing and my membership's been paid. It's a shocking ground, the centre's usually so wet they can't bounce the ball regardless of how much it's been raining, the turf comes up way too easily so we can't keep our footing,... would you like me to continue!

As for the turnout, I heard turnout was suppose to be bad, but bad turnout translated to 30,000 in my head. I never imagined it would be that bad. At one point I yelled out bull shit from my seat in the upper stands and people sitting in the front rows of the ground level turned around. Strangely the cheers were even louder than normal, and the 1000 odd NM fans that were there were louder than all the Geelong fans from a couple of weeks ago. The players might say they don't like seeing empty seats but if they've got time to do anything more than hear us cheer they're not doing there job.

We had a rotten turnout and we still did better than the rotting carcase that calls itself the NRL. There's no way we'll ever have a melbourne sized crowd because we're not melbourne. In melbourne you could get 30,000 to the lawn bowls grand final. You're lucky to get 15,000 to an NRL match.

Also, anyone who wants to use this as an excuse to can WS18 plese think again. The western Sydney idea took a massive beating when NM decided not to move, and then the WB. If the AFL pull the WS18 idea now, there will only ever be 1 Sydney team. Any future talk about another team would end up sounding like adding New Zealand to the Commonwealth of Australia.

-- Goose

 

[Cap]

The three NRL games in Sydney on Saturday - at Cronulla, Parramatta and Penrith - drew a combined crowd of 18,245 in wet conditions.

saw that part in the foxsports article - makes the crowd look huge

 

[Doctor Jolly]

The three NRL games in Sydney on Saturday - at Cronulla, Parramatta and Penrith - drew a combined crowd of 18,245 in wet conditions.

saw that part in the foxsports article - makes the crowd look huge

Comparing apples to apples is not what bigfooty is about.

Really, the NRL has its own problems, and to compare AFL to NRL to try and explain things is akin to sleeping with dogs and waking up with flea's.

19K to an AFL game in Sydney is poor. Its the worst crowd for years, and it should never be allowed to happen again. Nothing to do with NRL.

 

[Beaussie]

19K to an AFL game in Sydney is poor. Its the worst crowd for years, and it should never be allowed to happen again. Nothing to do with NRL.

How do you suggest we ensure that doesn't ever happen again when even Swans fans like you did not attend?

 

[hot_pies81]

Yeah the Sydney supporters are also staying away because North rejected the Gold Coast but once they get a team of their own blah, blah, blah.........

Firstly, I never wanted Nth to relocate up here. Would have been happier to see them go the way of Fitzroy.

Secondly, when Collingwood played Sydney at ANZ stadium last in July they brought in 59 266 people.

Collingwood = Crowds = $$$$

 

[Beaussie]

Firstly, I never wanted Nth to relocate up here. Would have been happier to see them go the way of Fitzroy.

Secondly, when Collingwood played Sydney at ANZ stadium last in July they brought in 59 266 people.

Collingwood = Crowds = $$$$

Must admit Eddie has been great in the past up here promoting footy and a rivalry to ensure good crowds for our annual clash.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

How do you suggest we ensure that doesn't ever happen again when even Swans fans like you did not attend?

Minor improvements:
- Pick venue to suit game. This game had SCG written all over it.
- Promote the game. Finals are the AFL's responsibility, not the swans.
- Get a 2nd side into Sydney to generate rivalry, and new supporters.

Major remodling of the comp:

- Get rid of this ridiculous draft. The concept that you have to be bad to be good is flawed, and means Sydney will HAVE TO BE bad at some stage.
- Give the clubs which earn all the TV money, that money. Forget this socialist rubish.
- Get rid of these minnow teams which bring nothing to the comp. I'd rather see a 10 team comp of "big" clubs than have to put up with North who bring almost no presence to Sydney.

 

[aneale]

Minor improvements:
- Pick venue to suit game. This game had SCG written all over it.
- Promote the game. Finals are the AFL's responsibility, not the swans.
- Get a 2nd side into Sydney to generate rivalry, and new supporters.

Major remodling of the comp:

- Get rid of this ridiculous draft. The concept that you have to be bad to be good is flawed, and means Sydney will HAVE TO BE bad at some stage.
- Give the clubs which earn all the TV money, that money. Forget this socialist rubish.
- Get rid of these minnow teams which bring nothing to the comp. I'd rather see a 10 team comp of "big" clubs than have to put up with North who bring almost no presence to Sydney.

Sydney were bad, for a long time, how do you think you got to where you are now?

So its the AFL's job to promote finals not Sydney's, then why is it North's responsibility to bring a presence to Sydney, you can't blame your opponent for that. Sydney's job is to promote their own presence. After 26 years and a flag if you can't do that yourself that's your fault not anyone elses.

 

[cos789]

So its the AFL's job to promote finals not Sydney's

So who's fault is it that the Crows didn't play to a full house ?

 

[Beaussie]

So who's fault is it that the Crows didn't play to a full house ?

1 in 5 Crows members are from the country and apparently an elimination final was not something they were too keen on attending. On and lets not forget the Adelaide Show.

 

[aneale]

So who's fault is it that the Crows didn't play to a full house ?

Their's. They didn't get the time they wanted, but that happened with 3 other games this season as well. All week the coach, ceo and players were in all forms of media doing their best to get people to come despite the poor fixture time for our supporter base.

 

[aneale]

1 in 5 Crows members are from the country and apparently an elimination final was not something they were too keen on attending. On and lets not forget the Adelaide Show.

either way we aren't whining that Collingwood didn't help fill the ground, thats not their responsibility, it's ours. Sydney's problem is that it's everyone elses responsibility to maintain crowds.

 

[Beaussie]

either way we aren't whining that Collingwood didn't help fill the ground, thats not their responsibility, it's ours. Sydney's problem is that it's everyone elses responsibility to maintain crowds.

Hang on, I thought you said before that Collingwood bring their fans in big numbers and ensure big crowds. At least that's what I thought you said about Sydney's record home crowds against the Pies.

Now your club and the Pies have what, a membership base of 40-50k each. With that in mind, why such a poor turn out for an elimination final in Adelaide on a beautiful sunny day? I guess the Adelaide Show must be very popular down there, combined with not many Pies fans travelling interstate for an elimination final. Oh and of course, the Crows country members not willing to attend a finals game.

 

[aneale]

Hang on, I thought you said before that Collingwood bring their fans in big numbers and ensure big crowds. At least that's what I thought you said about Sydney's record home crowds against the Pies.

Now your club and the Pies have what, a membership base of 40-50k each. With that in mind, why such a poor turn out for an elimination final in Adelaide on a beautiful sunny day? I guess the Adelaide Show must be very popular down there, combined with not many Pies fans travelling interstate for an elimination final.

They do, but its still not their responsibility to fill a stadium in another State, sure they will come over in greater numbers but you can hardly then bitch that not enough of them came over. There were more than you usually see but there are less than 3000 tickets available for H&A games throughout the year due to season tickets. 10,000 Collingwood fans can't just decide to drive over and get into AAMI like they can ANZ.

Yes the Adelaide Show is a massive event. But we don't draw crowds on Saturday arvo, there would have been 47-48K there if it started at 7.10. Everyone knows that, the data proves it. The AFL know that, they know the reason for it.

 

[Beaussie]

But we don't draw crowds on Saturday arvo, there would have been 47-48K there if it started at 7.10.

Yeah ok, whatever.

 

[aneale]

Yeah ok, whatever.

for the clueless Swans supporters; Elimination & Qualifying Final Average Attendances @ AAMI (Crows only)

Friday Night: N/A
Saturday: 39,149 (3)
Saturday Night: 48,888 (3)
Sunday: 45,128 (1)

 

[chaddles]

Sydney should of played Kangaroos at the MCG as a home game - more South Melbourne supporters would of turned up than the Sydney supporter base...

Good luck to the AFL with the West Sydney expansion too - will be interesting to see what happens over the next couple of years and how much money they can lose. Sydney are notoriously terrible for sporting events - it's all about the Gay Mardi Gras up that way, has a massive attendance and could be the avenue for the West Sydney Fairy's

 

[Kram]

On the news then they said that Paralympics opening and Pretty Woman outrated the game, I'd thought that would be even more worrrying.

Seems a shame, didn't they get almost 70,000 against us a couple of years agao?

 

[cos789]

for the clueless ...

crow supporter , you're focussing on one Swans game yet you're quoting Crow averages . It's pretty pointless going done the wudda , shudda , cudda path .

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

On the news then they said that Paralympics opening and Pretty Woman outrated the game, I'd thought that would be even more worrrying.

Seems a shame, didn't they get almost 70,000 against us a couple of years agao?

To the 2003 prelim final they got 71,000. To the 2006 prelim they got 61,000.

They got 39,000 to the semi final v Gee in 2005 at the SCG and in a lot worse weather, of 40,000 to an elimination final at the Stadium in 2004 v the WCE.