18,000 at AAMI - Time for Port to goto the Gold Coast

[Jabsy]

Will there still be showdowns?

We'd be lucky to get "showups"...

 

[greennick]

Great Post...shame none of these heapers read the fine print.

Think that was edited in after the first few posts...

 

[hcd199]

Think that was edited in after the first few posts...

Pretty sure Chadwiko said up-thread that the edit was to correct a typo, actually.

Even West Coast and Fremantle have to pay to use a stadium for their home games. And which crowds are you talking about? The Port and Fremantle crowds? Even West Coast and Fremantle would lose money on crowds that low.

As I said - no club should have to pay for the privilege of using a stadium, no matter whether they were there at the inception of the league in 1897, or if they're the Gold Coast or Western Sydney. NO club.

How much is North contributing though?

Doesn't matter. They are an AFL club, and deserve to be treated as any other AFL club should be. Otherwise where does our supposedly "equal and tolerant" society go?

 

[Chapter 11]

Pretty sure Chadwiko said up-thread that the edit was to correct a typo, actually.



As I said - no club should have to pay for the privilege of using a stadium, no matter whether they were there at the inception of the league in 1897, or if they're the Gold Coast or Western Sydney. NO club.

I think thats silly. Each stadium has its costs, and if the crowd doesnt cover it, then the team who hired it has to come up with the difference.

I doubt there is any major AFL stadium in Australia where you make money on less than 18,000.

Doesn't matter. They are an AFL club, and deserve to be treated as any other AFL club should be. Otherwise where does our supposedly "equal and tolerant" society go?

Supermarket shelf stackers dont live in Toorak, they live in Sunshine.
There will always be a home for AFL teams that cant afford the big time, and that is the various state leagues around the country.

 

[arden st army]

Funny how far this has gone.

 

[A Living God]

As I said - no club should have to pay for the privilege of using a stadium, no matter whether they were there at the inception of the league in 1897, or if they're the Gold Coast or Western Sydney. NO club.

Yes because stadiums are made by magical pixies, they just appear in the middle of the night. It is not like they cost hundreds of millions dollars to build.

 

[Dc9798]

18,000 is still better than the 16,000 North got on a sunny day against Freo! It was freezing and raining on Saturday night so it wasn't a bad crowd considering!

 

[PowerForGood]

They would have lost a solid $100,000 last night.


Tough times ahead for the Power. Personally I cant see how they are going to get out of their troubles without moving stadium, but whatever.

A bit like renting out a house that you own outright, and finding that the market can't pay what you want, do you
1) accept a lesser rent,
2) have the place vacant and get nothing!

 

[PowerForGood]

Actually as someone related to a guy who does work in the schools for the AFC, I can tell you if anything the Crows have a larger percentage of kids supporting them then the general public, if only because of the sheer amount of money being thrown at the kids in schools by the club. something like 7-8 to 1 are nominating themselves as Crows fans over Power. sometimes in a squad of 20 kids there might be only 1 or 2 who are Power fans.

This is a funny post, have you ever thought that the schools that the AFC work in and throw their money at are the ones that the AFC have good support in.

Sometimes in a squad of 20 kids, there might be 1 or 2 that are Power fans.
Or you can go to the footy clinic that I help run, where its more like 60-40.

 

[Rob]

As I said - no club should have to pay for the privilege of using a stadium, no matter whether they were there at the inception of the league in 1897, or if they're the Gold Coast or Western Sydney. NO club.

How the f**k is any stadium supposed to make money if no tenant is paying any rent?

 

[medusala]

As I said - no club should have to pay for the privilege of using a stadium, no matter whether they were there at the inception of the league in 1897, or if they're the Gold Coast or Western Sydney. NO club.

What nonsensical, self serving muppetry. Who else is going to fund the grounds? It is more than reasonable that investors and taxayers get some return on their investment.

It is bad enough the AFL writes you a huge cheque each year, now you want taxpayers and investors to cough up more as well.

Doesn't matter. They are an AFL club, and deserve to be treated as any other AFL club should be. Otherwise where does our supposedly "equal and tolerant" society go?

More rampant misology.

How one can possibly conceive that the MCG and TD could offer the same minimum breakeven levels as grounds like York Park and Kardinia is beyond me.

One would think North was a financial leviathan when they played at Arden St the way some carry on.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

How one can possibly conceive that the MCG and TD could offer the same minimum breakeven levels as grounds like York Park and Kardinia is beyond me.

Gosh, that's odd, I could've sworn Melbourne Victory make a profit on crowds of 15k and above at Etihad - did I imagine this?

 

[medusala]

Gosh, that's odd, I could've sworn Melbourne Victory make a profit on crowds of 15k and above at Etihad - did I imagine this?

Do you really think TD could lower their break even to that figure for all games and get a decent return?

No of course not.

Red herring for financial Philistines.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

I've never met a financial Phillistine before...

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[Wonaeamirri33]

The 15k is not the point. The point is they (Etihad) clearly have room to make the break-even point lower than 30k. And they are supposed to provide greater equity across the board for AFL and A-League tenants, as part of the original agreement.

 

[medusala]

The 15k is not the point. The point is they (Etihad) clearly have room to make the break-even point lower than 30k.

Because you have one or two games with a break even of 15k in no way means you can do it with all of them.

The marginal return is not the same.

 

[Papa G]

there was a post on page 3, i think, that said port had about 20% of adelaide's population as a support base.

i think that's a gross overestimation. that would give the power about 200,000 supporters. no way.

i still believe that unless you went for port adelaide in the sanfl, you simply wouldn't go for port power in the afl. this won't change for perhaps several generations, which puts port power's short-term financial stability in a difficult position.

i know for a fact that they believe they have excellent support in the 8-14 age group, but that there have been difficulties in attracting other supporters to the club.

as much as i admire the club - they're brilliant with the media, they work hard at grass roots level, and they're better run that my club was before jimmy took over - i still wonder...did the afl make a massive blunder accepting port into the competition rather than a hybrid team, such as norwood-sturt?

given that it was probably a fait accompli that it was always going to be port in as the second club after they were the bridesmaid in 1990, the afl probably didn't look too seriously at the sheer dislike of anything port-related by anyone who didn't got for the sanfl magpies.

i still think the over-emphasis on their sanfl past and history - which is truly incredible - and the attempt to associate the magpies with the power has been a massive tactical blunder as it simply reinforces the notion that port power is port adelaide.

if they moved away from that generalisation, perhaps the generation gap required to attract neutral / fair-weather supporters would be an easier transition, and help alleviate the power's current financial problems.

as someone who lives in adelaide but supports neither club, i must admit i have a soft spot for port as there's something about their underdog status that is similar to a melbourne, a north melbourne, a footscray - they're a side you're happy to see do well (except against your side!) and want to be safe.

the truth is they probably are safe; the afl needs adelaide as a two-team town. but was port power the wrong choice for the second team?

Firstly, I understand the original postsers intention of his thread, but it was always going to come unstuck.

Secondly, this is such a bad post from what I would think is an old school Norwood supporter, who couldn't quite bring himself to barrack for the Crows because of what they relagated his club to, and is stuck barracking for the competitions most inconsequential club because he half heartedly picked them as his VFL team when growing up because they had the same colours as Norwood. To suggest that a Norwood-Sturt merger would have been a better option is just so so misguided. The vast percentage of Norwood and Sturt supporters jumped on the Crows bandwagon in 1990. I do know quite a few Sturt supporters that stuck with Carlton and a few Norwood supporters, like good self who pretend to barrack for the Demons, but the rest are all Crowies.

Do you still have a faded "Logical Option" sticker on the back window of your car?

 

[Beckers]

You relly need to start reading more of the Posts and Thread if you are continue to Post on Big Footy.

You seem to get the context or the information in a thread wrong everytime. Remember read carefully before posting Beckers.

I fully understand the sarcasm with which the OP was meant but ran with a much more interesting agenda. Even though the OP was meant in jest and sarcasm, his underlying intent was to take a swipe at all the "North to merge/relocate/die posters out there.

So what did you guys seriously expect and which direction did you think it would go when a thread like this was started?

 

[hcd199]

The 15k is not the point. The point is they (Etihad) clearly have room to make the break-even point lower than 30k. And they are supposed to provide greater equity across the board for AFL and A-League tenants, as part of the original agreement.

Totally agree.

 

[rb214]

I fully understand the sarcasm with which the OP was meant but ran with a much more interesting agenda.

Interesting?

A topic that has now been covered in 2 million threads and 510 million posts. In total all threads are made up of the same 15 clowns who keep going over the same phrases Should of gone to the gold coast etc....................

It is the most boring subject on Big Footy. Hate to brake it to you but your idea of interesting is not exactly profound.

The only subject that is could be more boring is the jumper clash between North and Collingwood. A subject that you Captain Interesting love to make a thread about.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446775

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=572023

You need to look at raising your barometer on what is interesting Becks.

What was actually both interesting and original was the the OP that cleverly made fun of the predictable and moronic nature of some on Big Footy.

Perhaps you should take notes.

 

[Beckers]

Interesting?

A topic that has now been covered in 2 million threads and 510 million posts. In total all threads are made up of the same 15 clowns who keep going over the same phrases Should of gone to the gold coast etc....................

It is the most boring subject on Big Footy. Hate to brake it to you but your idea of interesting is not exactly profound.

The only subject that is could be more boring is the jumper clash between North and Collingwood. A subject that you Captain Interesting love to make a thread about.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446775

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=572023

You need to look at raising your barometer on what is interesting Becks.

What was actually both interesting and original was the the OP that cleverly made fun of the predictable and moronic nature of some on Big Footy.

Perhaps you should take notes.

3 quick points RB......

i'll decide on the topics i post on NOT YOU!

As i previously stated in those links, I HAVE lost respect for your club and everyone associated with it for caving in to Eddie and Collingwood on an annual basis.

I find it amusing that North Melbourne assign cyber stalkers to monitor derogitory remards against the pauper club. As you have probably seen, my derision is mainly directed at the subserviant NMFC who, due to recent events i believe are a blight on the competition and purely making up the numbers.

You could quite easily put me on your ignore list!

 

[rb214]

3 quick points RB......


You could quite easily put me on your ignore list!

No need to do that, your posts are really more comical than anything. Its funny when you post without reading the context of the threads or the OP.

I will admit some of the anti North posters get under my skin they do it well, your are certainly not one. Your more comical than anything.

 

[skipper kelly]

Whats with these whinging North supporters on BF. Its bordering on a disorder.

 

[Beckers]

No need to do that, your posts are really more comical than anything. Its funny when you post without reading the context of the threads or the OP.

I will admit some of the anti North posters get under my skin they do it well, your are certainly not one. Your more comical than anything.

Still stalking me? Go away FFS!

 

[hcd199]

As i previously stated in those links, I HAVE lost respect for your club and everyone associated with it for caving in to Eddie and Collingwood on an annual basis.

Many public statements have been made by people connected with the issue. If you loathe the club so much, you're prepared to make conclusions without listening to the evidence, then fine. But don't share them with everyone else.

I find it amusing that North Melbourne assign cyber stalkers to monitor derogitory remards against the pauper club.

Please explain?

As you have probably seen, my derision is mainly directed at the subserviant NMFC who, due to recent events i believe are a blight on the competition and purely making up the numbers.

If you sincerely believe a club doesn't deserve it's position in the AFL... look, I've said it all before up-thread. What kind of human being actually wants to see thousands of supporters' hearts shattered?