18 A, Season 2010

[deeeks]

i'm confused are spotty any good? and are albion any good?

 

[Everchanging]

saw the altona vs vales game gotta see altona still have alot of talent if anyone nos who is number 21 for them coz he ripped it up

 

[The Big Ranga]

spotswood had a hard fought win over albion today around 20 points or so tough contest all day albion are shaping up to be a good side can run well hard at it will give the a's comp a shake this year and know how to play their ground very well who else won today?

 

[ShouldBeCoaching]

Sunshine forfeited against hoppers

 

[WJpunisher]

Sunshine forfeited against hoppers

interesting
why does it have scores on the website? (141-41)

 

[bangels]

If a team forfeits, their opposing team gets the biggest winning scores, as their own...
Vales vs Altona, Hoppers Vs Sunshine- Same scores...
If Sunshine forfeited, and Williamstown from what i have heard, no longer have a team... That means there is 7 teams in the Under 18 A's.

This is coming from a long term follower, and local altona boy, this is disgraceful that the WRFL can let this happen...
If the under 18 competition goes under, which is it getting closer and closer to doing, the WRFL will struggle to stay aflot... with no youth coming through the ranks of the Senior teams, the league itself will sink, down and down, until the WRFL can fix itsself.

 

[WJpunisher]

But willi ended up forming a team? with about 20 odd players
...does that mean a handful dropped off? do you know and if so why they dropped off

 

[Bullyboy]

on a side note, werribee did try to field a wrfl side as their 3rds
QUOTE]

It was nothing more than a token gesture by Werribbee to make the WRFL think that they actually tried to get a team in the league. Willy will do the same thing.

The WRFL must come down hard on these rogue clubs now before they do stuff our league.

 

[deeeks]

saw the altona vs vales game gotta see altona still have alot of talent if anyone nos who is number 21 for them coz he ripped it up

Brad Comeadow had a year off because of an injury and came back this year better than ever and as you saw still knows how to dominate.

love you votes.

 

[Limited]

on a side note, werribee did try to field a wrfl side as their 3rds
QUOTE]

It was nothing more than a token gesture by Werribbee to make the WRFL think that they actually tried to get a team in the league. Willy will do the same thing.

The WRFL must come down hard on these rogue clubs now before they do stuff our league.

That's not the answer. At this point in time what doe's the WRFL have to offer, lets make no mistake the WRFL are running a business and if they keep going the way they are there will be no business to run.

These clubs that are going to other leagues do so because the other leagues have more to offer, the WRFL need to fix there league quickly before more clubs move or fold.

 

[ramjets]

on a side note, werribee did try to field a wrfl side as their 3rds
QUOTE]

It was nothing more than a token gesture by Werribbee to make the WRFL think that they actually tried to get a team in the league. Willy will do the same thing.

The WRFL must come down hard on these rogue clubs now before they do stuff our league.

you would know what a token gesture is mate you make one everyday when you get up look in the mirror and tell yourself what a clever indvidual you are that is a token gesture.between 12 and 15 kids may miss a game each week at that footy club something that no one involved takes lightly kids have had to move on that have been with the club for 3 and 4 years none of that has sat well with the people involved at the club.But to come on here and blame the failings of the U18 comp on the Werribee football club is dumb surely you must be from Altona. Thats definately not a token gesture.

 

[Centre Corridor]

The problem here fellas is not the U18's in the WRFL, it is way beyond that. This may need WRFL to take to FV to sort out. I understand that the Ammo's are pushing for their senior clubs to field U19's, otherwise they can not stay in the league. If this is the case what choice do WJ's have at the moment.

Willy Jnrs may very well move their U18's to the Ammo's, but I believe CY's already field a team there, so not a move but a merge.

Both Ammo clubs need to look after their Seniors and develope a continual flow of players for them, so you can't blame them. St Bernards have been doing this for years - Jns upto U16 in the WRFL and teh rest in the Ammo's.

The next club to move U18's would be Point Cook.

Perhaps before going to FV, WRFL may need to look at othering some of these clubs incentives to bring their senios back into WRFL. This would stop the exodous of U18's and hopefully strengthen the comp overall. JMO though.

 

[ramjets]

The problem here fellas is not the U18's in the WRFL, it is way beyond that. This may need WRFL to take to FV to sort out. I understand that the Ammo's are pushing for their senior clubs to field U19's, otherwise they can not stay in the league. If this is the case what choice do WJ's have at the moment.

Willy Jnrs may very well move their U18's to the Ammo's, but I believe CY's already field a team there, so not a move but a merge.

Both Ammo clubs need to look after their Seniors and develope a continual flow of players for them, so you can't blame them. St Bernards have been doing this for years - Jns upto U16 in the WRFL and teh rest in the Ammo's.

The next club to move U18's would be Point Cook.

Perhaps before going to FV, WRFL may need to look at othering some of these clubs incentives to bring their senios back into WRFL. This would stop the exodous of U18's and hopefully strengthen the comp overall. JMO though.

Finally someone offering a possible soloution instead of ban fine throw out fair call mate.

 

[past panther]

Finally someone offering a possible soloution instead of ban fine throw out fair call mate.

Another option would be to introduce an under 17 competition and moving the under 18's to under 19's. Currently it is actually 18 and1/2.
Being 18 and1/2 means you can actually have 16 year olds playing against 19 year olds at some stage of the season. We all know at this age group some guy's physically mature quicker than others and there can be a massive difference with men playing boy's. Look at the clubs with A and B sides and there is a massive difference between both. This also allows more freedom for under 16 bottom age players to move up to under 17 regardless of the 2 year rule in wrfl. Just a thought but as we have all seen the league has issues at this age level and might be worth a try.

 

[Bullyboy]

The problem here fellas is not the U18's in the WRFL, it is way beyond that. This may need WRFL to take to FV to sort out. I understand that the Ammo's are pushing for their senior clubs to field U19's, otherwise they can not stay in the league. If this is the case what choice do WJ's have at the moment.

Willy Jnrs may very well move their U18's to the Ammo's, but I believe CY's already field a team there, so not a move but a merge.

Both Ammo clubs need to look after their Seniors and develope a continual flow of players for them, so you can't blame them. St Bernards have been doing this for years - Jns upto U16 in the WRFL and teh rest in the Ammo's.

The next club to move U18's would be Point Cook.

Perhaps before going to FV, WRFL may need to look at othering some of these clubs incentives to bring their senios back into WRFL. This would stop the exodous of U18's and hopefully strengthen the comp overall. JMO though.

Unlike the quite a few on this thread I don`t think there is much wrong with our U18 competitions. Sure things can always improve but the U18 comps were fairly healthy before the Ammos started their push for supremacy.

Now here lays the problem. "The Ammo's are pushing for their senior clubs to field U19's, otherwise they can not stay in the league".

Well what about this, the WRFL do the same and tell all junior clubs that unless you put in an U18 team in the comp they cannot stay in this league.

Stuff the Ammos, the WRFL need to act and act now to stop other clubs from using this competition.

I will not even respond to Ramjets pathetic outburst.

 

[trucka]

[quote=Bullyboy;17482609]Unlike the quite a few on this thread I don`t think there is much wrong with our U18 competitions. Sure things can always improve but the U18 comps were fairly healthy before the Ammos started their push for supremacy.

Now here lays the problem. "The Ammo's are pushing for their senior clubs to field U19's, otherwise they can not stay in the league".

Well what about this, the WRFL do the same and tell all junior clubs that unless you put in an U18 team in the comp they cannot stay in this league.

Stuff the Ammos, the WRFL need to act and act now to stop other clubs from using this competition.

I will not even respond to Ramjets pathetic outburst.[/quote]

Good idea Bullyboy, from my calculation that would reduce the number of Clubs in the WRFL from 30 to 17 as there is only 17 teams in the Under 18's comp. We could push that up to 19 if you don't include the 2 clubs who don't have any juniors.

I also do not know where you are getting you info from regarding the ammos forcing clubs out if they do not put an Under 19 side on the field. If this was the case why would they allow Point Cook in this year.

 

[Centre Corridor]

Trucka, I understand that this is what the Ammos are looking at down the track. Its not an immediate step, but I believe clubs have been made aware of this possible change in direction. This would be why they have started an U18 competition to enable some clubs to attract players with view to form U19 team within the next season or two.Also if you look at their website (VAFA Vision) they are also looking at additional underage teams in the future. With Point Cook having junior teams already, their are well placed to ensure continued feed to switch their U18's to U19's with the Ammo's. At the end of the day they need to do what is best for the club overall, and being a new senior club this may be the way they will go.

The potential push by the Ammo's fortheir clubs to have at least U19's appears to be part of their forward plan to ensure the continuing viability of their clubs, and to increase presence in the football & general community.

 

[Bullyboy]

I have no doubt that Point Cook will have their U18`s in the Ammos unless something happens.

I am passionate about our league (don`t shoot me for that) and I am concerned that we will become a feeder competition to the Ammos. The WRFL are also concerned and this will be raised again at CoM level by a number of concerned clubs who may just force some changes.

 

[trucka]

I have no doubt that Point Cook will have their U18`s in the Ammos unless something happens.

I am passionate about our league (don`t shoot me for that) and I am concerned that we will become a feeder competition to the Ammos. The WRFL are also concerned and this will be raised again at CoM level by a number of concerned clubs who may just force some changes.

Bullyboy I admire your passion, but instead of the WRFL worrying about kicking those clubs out that put there Seniors/Under18's in another comp, maybe they should spend the time looking at why they are moving and actually go and ask (maybe they are afraid of the repsonse).You kick those clubs out and your Junior teams will reduce from about 160 to 90 and the league will loose around $90K.

Also, interesting that one of THOSE CONCERNED clubs has NO juniors and the other only has 5. They should be spending more effort in increasing their Junior numbers rather than trying to kick clubs out who are providing a game of football to over 1500 kids.

 

[Centre Corridor]

Trucka, I think we are on the same page. I was trying to point out to others that its more than just a matter of Werribee pulling out their U18's from WRFL for the sake of it, and a simple fine etc from WRFL to sort out the problem. And true others such as Willy Jnrs and Point Cook may follow in future.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see the WRFL go from strength to strength, but I do not think the WRFL are in a position at present to dictate to clubs where they need to play their Jnrs or Snrs. I agree the WRFL should spend more time with the likes of Werribee / Werribee Centrals / Point Cook to see why their preference is to play in other leagues, whether they like the response or not, over time corrective action should see the WRFL become stronger.

On the other hand perhaps its time for WRFL to approach FV for assistance in finding some common ground with the Ammos directly so that both competitions can continue to grow together before this situation gets out of hand and beyond repair.

 

[craaaig]

tips for this week anyone?

mine would be

Albion vs Hoppers - hoppers by 70 really shaping to be a top side.

Altona vs Point cook - Altona by 80 i believe will be them and hoppers in gf early days though.

Spotswood vs Whyndamvale - spotty by 44 whyndamvale have been a bit underdone i heard?

Sunshine vs Willy- suprisinly i think this will be best game of the round, both very average sides going against each other bu its hard to say willy so i'll go with sunshine by 17


there are my tips, ane everyone should make some tips instead od talking about where WRFL is going make a seperate thread for that and lets talk footy.

 

[Barnyard Kipling]

Jordan Lampi from point cook is the best player in the league by a mile

he'll win the league BnF

Wow i thought 4 sure he would be at Jets!!!
What happened there?

If he is 18s this year will romp in the B & F

he's a freak of nature

Yes a selfless team orientated player!
had a magnificent coach last year who made a real impact.
why is he not at the Jets?

 

[ramjets]

I have no doubt that Point Cook will have their U18`s in the Ammos unless something happens.

I am passionate about our league (don`t shoot me for that) and I am concerned that we will become a feeder competition to the Ammos. The WRFL are also concerned and this will be raised again at CoM level by a number of concerned clubs who may just force some changes.

I think it is great you are passionate I have been involved in the WRFL for the last four years not many I know but the big issue isnt anything to do with Seniors and U19s having to play in the same comp it has been the inaction so far anyway of the WRFL on (violence inadequate suspensions and an unclear policy on Junior footy.)Now they want to act after the fact that is why they have been and will remain behind the times when it comes to Junior footy.

 

[Foootylad]

tips for this week anyone?

mine would be

Albion vs Hoppers - hoppers by 70 really shaping to be a top side.

Altona vs Point cook - Altona by 80 i believe will be them and hoppers in gf early days though.

Spotswood vs Whyndamvale - spotty by 44 whyndamvale have been a bit underdone i heard?

Sunshine vs Willy- suprisinly i think this will be best game of the round, both very average sides going against each other bu its hard to say willy so i'll go with sunshine by 17


there are my tips, ane everyone should make some tips instead od talking about where WRFL is going make a seperate thread for that and lets talk footy.

yeh pretty accurate. i'll go hoppers by 80, altona by 100, spotty by 70, willy by 30

 

[past panther]

Trucka, I think we are on the same page. I was trying to point out to others that its more than just a matter of Werribee pulling out their U18's from WRFL for the sake of it, and a simple fine etc from WRFL to sort out the problem. And true others such as Willy Jnrs and Point Cook may follow in future.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see the WRFL go from strength to strength, but I do not think the WRFL are in a position at present to dictate to clubs where they need to play their Jnrs or Snrs. I agree the WRFL should spend more time with the likes of Werribee / Werribee Centrals / Point Cook to see why their preference is to play in other leagues, whether they like the response or not, over time corrective action should see the WRFL become stronger.

On the other hand perhaps its time for WRFL to approach FV for assistance in finding some common ground with the Ammos directly so that both competitions can continue to grow together before this situation gets out of hand and beyond repair.

Dont be fooled guy's. If the league was to say piss off to Point Cook, Werribee, Willy etc, what would happen to underr 16 and below. no Ammo there. WRFL hold a fair fist full of cards.