Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes

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The cherry on top with both coaches thinking he was in the top 4 players on the ground. In his first proper game (Eagles at KP doesn't count) in the role, in front of 90,000 fans in a game where our midfield was pulverised.

If he had a bad game McStay would have taken 14 marks and kicked 8 goals in such circumstances.
Yes good points
 

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Clearly the brain trust at the club has clearly miscalculated our 2023 campaign with either hunger, skills, fitness or all 3.

No way was our plan to be this poor.

How we've gone from the best team in the comp to the worst in 6 months is baffling.
 
How we've gone from the best team in the comp to the worst in 6 months is baffling.
Is it? That side was reliant on a lot of old players playing well, and they did that at the back end of the 2022 season and into the grand final.

But for players in that age bracket, the end can come quick, especially if they ease off, lose fitness, have interrupted pre-seasons, are carrying injuries, etc.

Last year seemed like we hit a tremendous purple patch of many players playing their best despite their age or previous inconsistency. Now we're seeing the opposite side of it. Many are slowing down, playing injured or playing at their worst.
 
Is it? That side was reliant on a lot of old players playing well, and they did that at the back end of the 2022 season and into the grand final.

But for players in that age bracket, the end can come quick, especially if they ease off, lose fitness, have interrupted pre-seasons, are carrying injuries, etc.

Last year seemed like we hit a tremendous purple patch of many players playing their best despite their age or previous inconsistency. Now we're seeing the opposite side of it. Many are slowing down, playing injured or playing at their worst.

It's not just the oldies though, the younger players are all playing below their best as well.

But yeah some could have fallen away.
 
It's not just the oldies though, the younger players are all playing below their best as well.

But yeah some could have fallen away.
I think when a lot of players start falling away around you, it affects your form as well, especially when you're a younger player who derived confidence from trusting and expecting certain things from your teammates. Suddenly you're not getting the same support from your teammates, they're not winning it at the contest as they were, not leading for you, not able to get to the same positions as they were previously, not blocking for you, etc. A lot of the time young players blossom in premiership teams because the system is functioning so well. Now it is not, so they are perhaps a bit out of sorts.

That said, a guy like Stengle should be doing a lot better. Many of them should.
 
I think when a lot of players start falling away around you, it affects your form as well, especially when you're a younger player who derived confidence from trusting and expecting certain things from your teammates. Suddenly you're not getting the same support from your teammates, they're not winning it at the contest as they were, not leading for you, not able to get to the same positions as they were previously, not blocking for you, etc. A lot of the time young players blossom in premiership teams because the system is functioning so well. Now it is not, so they are perhaps a bit out of sorts.

That said, a guy like Stengle should be doing a lot better. Many of them should.

The thing is, with our current lack of fitness, we can't even do the 2022 gameplan that saw us as the best team in the comp. We defended and attacked so well and guys like Stengle, Close, Miers, Holmes used to run teams off their feet and get into good positions to make an impact.

Without that, we come right back to the pack or even worse, we've been surpassed by the pack and getting left behind.
 
Yep, guys like Stengle, Close, Holmes etc aren't replicating their 2022 form.

That’s probably down to the older guys performing so they played their role and looked good last year. Now it’s time for them to stand up in an underperforming side which is a lot harder, and as you can see, non existent so far.
 

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Is it? That side was reliant on a lot of old players playing well, and they did that at the back end of the 2022 season and into the grand final.

But for players in that age bracket, the end can come quick, especially if they ease off, lose fitness, have interrupted pre-seasons, are carrying injuries, etc.

Last year seemed like we hit a tremendous purple patch of many players playing their best despite their age or previous inconsistency. Now we're seeing the opposite side of it. Many are slowing down, playing injured or playing at their worst.
Unless you explicitly predicted it before the season, then yes it it very surprising.

Can you please point me to your preseason prediction where you stated that this drop off was likely.
 
That’s probably down to the older guys performing so they played their role and looked good last year. Now it’s time for them to stand up in an underperforming side which is a lot harder, and as you can see, non existent so far.

I actually think it was the other way around. I think the younger guys all performing helped protect the older players from doing as much work.

All our young players had brilliant years in 2022. In no particular order Atkins (close to the most improved player in the comp), Close, Stengle, DeKoning, Jack Henry, Zac Guthrie, and Holmes - all were great. Their form allowed the older players to be better managed and used, and allowed us to cover up what would have been gaps. Stewart and Dangerfield both missed chunks of games - we won them all. Selwood and Dangerfield were able to be used off the bench saving them the endless running midfielders have to do (and younger legs are better suited for). Selwood isn't there now, the younger guys are out of touch (especially the mids), and we're finding out Dangerfield just isn't the same player. In truth he was declining way before now but smart management disguised it.
 
Scotty was very prickly in the press conference yesterday. I actually like seeing him being a bit more emotional and combative in the presser. As long as he's not a downright knob like Ross Lyon or Damian Hardwick, I'm all for it.

He was irritated by the "hit" on Blicavs and the umpires ignoring it, even though the AFL had issued an advice saying actions like that were reportable.

Meek simply kneed Blicavs in the abdomen in a way the AFL had deemed reportable.

Stanley was a victim of a similar incident inflicted by Tom deKoning that kept him out last week.

Scott pressed hard that ruckmen MUST stop this action, particularly so when they never even leave the ground but simply knee their opponent.

Seeing the incidents, I tend to agree, though Nathan Buckley felt it was a non-event..
 
He was irritated by the "hit" on Blicavs and the umpires ignoring it, even though the AFL had issued an advice saying actions like that were reportable.

Meek simply kneed Blicavs in the abdomen in a way the AFL had deemed reportable.

Stanley was a victim of a similar incident inflicted by Tom deKoning that kept him out last week.

Scott pressed hard that ruckmen MUST stop this action, particularly so when they never even leave the ground but simply knee their opponent.

Seeing the incidents, I tend to agree, though Nathan Buckley felt it was a non-event..
Buckley is a flog. It was clearly done to injury or take away the ability to compete.

I said it in the other thread ... Once can be an accident/clumsy but he kept doing it.
 

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