Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes

[catempire]

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Tonight's Scotty's 300th game as Coach for Geelong is an amazing achievement. He has certainly surpassed Bomber Thompson, the man he took over from. I haven't always agreed with Scotty's approach to things, but the success the Catters have had under him (bar this year) cannot be denied. I want to applaud him for the Coach he's turned into and thank him for helping to create an environment at Geelong that makes it a destination club for players. Two flags and the best winning percentage of any coach make him an all-time great. Let's hope he gets flag three while still at the Cattery.

 

[Nickoo]

Is it? That side was reliant on a lot of old players playing well, and they did that at the back end of the 2022 season and into the grand final.

But for players in that age bracket, the end can come quick, especially if they ease off, lose fitness, have interrupted pre-seasons, are carrying injuries, etc.

Last year seemed like we hit a tremendous purple patch of many players playing their best despite their age or previous inconsistency. Now we're seeing the opposite side of it. Many are slowing down, playing injured or playing at their worst.

Jeez, in a funny sort of way that’s a backhander to the head compliment. We over achieved last year so this is the other side of that coin. It’s like blaming 2023 inflation on a lack of it in 2021.


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[Nickoo]

I think when a lot of players start falling away around you, it affects your form as well, especially when you're a younger player who derived confidence from trusting and expecting certain things from your teammates. Suddenly you're not getting the same support from your teammates, they're not winning it at the contest as they were, not leading for you, not able to get to the same positions as they were previously, not blocking for you, etc. A lot of the time young players blossom in premiership teams because the system is functioning so well. Now it is not, so they are perhaps a bit out of sorts.

That said, a guy like Stengle should be doing a lot better. Many of them should.

When you take out Guthrie, Stanley, Selwood and Danger, out of your midfield, watch out. We hadn’t developed our second string so here we are exactly where that gets you. People are complaining?


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[dazbroncos]

FWIW, seems Jay Clark has gone with CS as the #1 coaching target for clubs looking for a coach.

Now, he also says CS is contracted to end of 24 at Geelong so they are referring to after that..... ( must be a SLOW newsday)

However.. does bring up the point about whether the club and CS re-sign mid 2024 or wait till the end of season 24 to do it if iat all.

Guess this thread might make part 8 after all...

GO Catters

 

[Vdubs]

FWIW, seems Jay Clark has gone with CS as the #1 coaching target for clubs looking for a coach.

Now, he also says CS is contracted to end of 24 at Geelong so they are referring to after that..... ( must be a SLOW newsday)

However.. does bring up the point about whether the club and CS re-sign mid 2024 or wait till the end of season 24 to do it if iat all.

Guess this thread might make part 8 after all...

GO Catters

CS is so Geelong, I can't imagine him coaching anywhere but at KP.
But it will happen I guess.
Wonder if Joel will come back to coach us one day.
Natural captain, leader, surely will be a gun coach.
Yes, it does not always transpire.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Damian Barrett did that great one on one interview with CS pre season which i watched - and he asked him about 2025 - will you be at Geel - he ummed and aared and then said Yes

My educated guess - is 2025 is CS will be at Fremantle - on a million dollar 5 year deal

He was an assistant coach their - so he has a connection to that club - lived in WA - and Mathew Pavlich in his book spoke glowingly about CS - where as in contrast - he bagged the shiit out of Mark Harvey - called him a rambler

In a way i hope CS takes that job if offered - because you look at Clarkson and Simpson and others - their reputation gets tarnished if you hang around for the rebuild - you are on a hiding to nothing

 

[CatToTheFuture]

My take is that Scott is looking for a director of coaching role at the cats but needs to wait for soft cap changes.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

When you take out Guthrie, Stanley, Selwood and Danger, out of your midfield, watch out. We hadn’t developed our second string so here we are exactly where that gets you. People are complaining?


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Imagine taking our rozzee and butters from ports midfield…or degoey and N Daicos from coll… or neale and dunkley from bris….

Losing your two gun mids leaves an incredible unfillable hole in just about any team I can currently think of, and we are no different

 

[Biggy_Boy]

My take is that Scott is looking for a director of coaching role at the cats but needs to wait for soft cap changes.

I don't see that as an idea that many would be on board with. I can't think of any examples where that has really worked out, a senior coach transitioning to the director of coaching role overseeing a new coach at the same club. There are examples of coaches going to other clubs and doing it, where they don't have the established coaching relationship with the playing group. There was the Malthouse/Buckley situation that the former was forced into but it never eventuated. Roos and Goodwin actioned a successful succession plan, with the coach doubling as a mentor to the assistant in the process of an articulated handover. Other coaches haven't seen that out.

I think the issue is that it's awkward for the new coach and potentially the players. You come in and the guy overseeing you has been at the club for about a decade and a half and has a strong connection with the playing group, meaning there'd be a feeling of potential for players to undermine your authority by going to the director who is still seen has having command of the playing group.

I don't think many new coaches want to feel like they don't have agency or an ability to manifest their vision when they take over, and that's likely how they would be feeling if taking over from someone like Scott while he remained at the club in a role involved with the football department.

But he'd probably be good at that role doing it elsewhere, or coaching at another club if he wants to add that notch to his legacy. If he can extract some good money from it, and he still has the passion and conviction for it, then by all means. Benefit of coming in as a young coach, you can spend a long time in the caper and still be one of the youngest head coaches going. If he really wants to carve out some kind of legacy as a coach, he has all the time and credits to do it. Could get a job at any club he wants and coach them for as long as he has Geelong if he gets the same kind of results there.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I don't see that as an idea that many would be on board with. I can't think of any examples where that has really worked out, a senior coach transitioning to the director of coaching role overseeing a new coach at the same club. There are examples of coaches going to other clubs and doing it, where they don't have the established coaching relationship with the playing group. There was the Malthouse/Buckley situation that the former was forced into but it never eventuated. Roos and Goodwin actioned a successful succession plan, with the coach doubling as a mentor to the assistant in the process of an articulated handover. Other coaches haven't seen that out.

I think the issue is that it's awkward for the new coach and potentially the players. You come in and the guy overseeing you has been at the club for about a decade and a half and has a strong connection with the playing group, meaning there'd be a feeling of potential for players to undermine your authority by going to the director who is still seen has having command of the playing group.

I don't think many new coaches want to feel like they don't have agency or an ability to manifest their vision when they take over, and that's likely how they would be feeling if taking over from someone like Scott while he remained at the club in a role involved with the football department.

But he'd probably be good at that role doing it elsewhere, or coaching at another club if he wants to add that notch to his legacy. If he can extract some good money from it, and he still has the passion and conviction for it, then by all means. Benefit of coming in as a young coach, you can spend a long time in the caper and still be one of the youngest head coaches going. If he really wants to carve out some kind of legacy as a coach, he has all the time and credits to do it. Could get a job at any club he wants and coach them for as long as he has Geelong if he gets the same kind of results there.

All very good points and I agree it likely wouldn't work out. I just think that's what he would be angling for

 

[Turbocat]

Damian Barrett did that great one on one interview with CS pre season which i watched - and he asked him about 2025 - will you be at Geel - he ummed and aared and then said Yes

My educated guess - is 2025 is CS will be at Fremantle - on a million dollar 5 year deal

He was an assistant coach their - so he has a connection to that club - lived in WA - and Mathew Pavlich in his book spoke glowingly about CS - where as in contrast - he bagged the shiit out of Mark Harvey - called him a rambler

In a way i hope CS takes that job if offered - because you look at Clarkson and Simpson and others - their reputation gets tarnished if you hang around for the rebuild - you are on a hiding to nothing

I had not thought of Freo but I guess if they have no success etc. If its end of 2024 ,Im sure the afl would love him at GC ..if the Qld club is still waffling around. One would think he would get more out a list, and know what is required to elevate it and of course he is so familiar with qld.
Of course by next year Gold Coast might be flying so Dew saves himself. I wonder how early they appoint a coach for Tasmania... thats going to be a tough assignment for someone ... although till the stadium is built , the club and team is doubtful.

 

[cats_09]

Guessing Scotty & family are happy in Geelong

 

[fpm84]

Guessing Scotty & family are happy in Geelong

sign him for life.


(yes I'm serious).

 

[cats_09]

sign him for life.


(yes I'm serious).

We may just get to part 10 of the Chris Scott love fest threads

 

[devilsnap]

Interesting stat was dropped last night. Scott has won 51/55 games with a 50+ point margin, so Scott-coached games are rarely (statistically) blown off the park.

 

[Hamingja]

Interesting stat was dropped last night. Scott has won 51/55 games with a 50+ point margin, so Scott-coached games are rarely (statistically) blown off the park.

50 loss to Adelaide 2012
110 loss to Sydney 2014
56 loss to West Coast 2015
62 loss to Hawthorn 2015
61 loss to Adelaide 2017
52 loss to Richmond 2017
83 loss to Melbourne 2021

Must not be counting finals.

 

[catempire]

50 loss to Adelaide 2012
110 loss to Sydney 2014
56 loss to West Coast 2015
62 loss to Hawthorn 2015
61 loss to Adelaide 2017
52 loss to Richmond 2017
83 loss to Melbourne 2021

Must not be counting finals.

I count 61 wins and 7 losses. In finals it’s 4-3.

 

[cats_09]

Congrats coach

 

[catempire]

 

[PhatBoy]

Spoke beautifully on 360 last night, thoughtful as always and very pragmatic about what happened on the weekend.
Seems almost embarrassed to be taking over a big landmark from such a legendary Geelong figure

 

[cats_09]

 

[standupand]

What an amazing achievement. He'll be remembered as the club's greatest coach for a long long time. The best, I feel, may even still be to come.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

You have to be truly exceptional to hold a key management role with sustained success over such a long period.

What a fantastic moment for the Club it was in October 2010 to appoint Chris - I recall Cook saying they were totally blown away by Chris during the interview process, great call to give him the gig.

Not sure if he’ll match Sheedys tenure with us but as long as he keeps reinventing himself and has the players you never know….

 

[cats_09]