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Was very impressed with the 43k crowd at Etihad today. Collingwood by comparison only drew 35k and 38k against Port and Adelaide respectively, Essendon drew 33k against West coast, and there were almost no Brisbane supporters there today.

Was the biggest ever H&A crowd between Carlton and Brisbane Bears/Lions
 
Was very impressed with the 43k crowd at Etihad today. Collingwood by comparison only drew 35k and 38k against Port and Adelaide respectively, Essendon drew 33k against West coast, and there were almost no Brisbane supporters there today.

Was the biggest ever H&A crowd between Carlton and Brisbane Bears/Lions
all aboard!

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Was very impressed with the 43k crowd at Etihad today. Collingwood by comparison only drew 35k and 38k against Port and Adelaide respectively, Essendon drew 33k against West coast, and there were almost no Brisbane supporters there today.

Was the biggest ever H&A crowd between Carlton and Brisbane Bears/Lions

Why don't they sign up as members? You should have 50k by now.
 
To date

St Kilda v Western Bulldogs - 31,237 at Etihad Stadium
Adelaide v West Coast - 31,412 at AAMI Stadium
Gold Coast v North Melbourne - 14,945 at Gold Coast Stadium.
Geelong v Hawthorn - 63, 476 at MCG
Carlton v Brisbane - 43,617 at Etihad Stadium

Could have sworn there's been another game...
 
We are talking pissing contests here .

rl excuses .

01 .SL stuffed us up completely and we haven't recovered .
. The mergers put people off , merged teams don't represent their region , merged teams are too powerful .
. Dropping South Sydney put people off and put more off by coming back and will lose the rest by relocating or dying.
. Dropping the expansion teams kill any chance of becoming national .
. Dropping the other teams didn't matter because they weren't that popular anyway .

02 .We play to our "heartlands" .............. our heartlands are in the bush,
. These people don't get the chance to go to many games as ch9 chop and change times and generally play god.
. Ch 9 and Foxtel shedule NRL games on short notice unlike the AFL that lock the shedule all games in October
. Our heartlands seem to be getting smaller all the time .
. We're stuck in suburban times .

03. Sydney people are doing it tough and just can't afford to go -
. Mortage prices , fuel prices , public transport prices , battery prices for their remote control .
. $30 general entry, I was drinking UDL's at $9 per can

04 . It's a television game -
. And the game was on Fox or FTA so the fans were at home .
. Ratings are much more important than viewers .
. You have to count the regional and city figures even though they overlap .
. You have to count New Zealand figures even though it's not officially a state of Australia yet .
. The ratings were down so I guess a lot of people went out to clubs and pubs to watch it .
. There was a lot of sport on TV. ........golf , tennis , lawn bowls , motorsports , bowling , darts , WWWWE
. There were good shows on TV ... Bloke's World , Iron Chef , Bert's big brother idol lost on celebrity dancing singing skating survivor
. Couch potatoes count as real interested viewers .
. The report is not valid because it only shows interest not real support like ratings where the person gets off his butt and
. ............ sorry where the person changes the channel on the remote .

05.The game is popular but the team isn't
. Either that popular crowd drawing team is down OR that unpopular drawing team is dominating .
. It was an away game for that popular crowd drawing team so they couldn't use their memberships .

06 .It's the Sydney transport system
. Public transport is unpopular or it's too crowded because it's popular .
. You cannot expect people to go to the SFS just because people go to see the Swans at the SCG nextdoor .

07. It's the weather
. Too hot , too cold or perfect for doing something else .
. You cannot expect people to go to stadia in weather like that even though there's plenty of room in the stadia because nobody goes .

08 It's the Time or Day of the Week .

. It was unsuitable to have a game on at the afternoon, twilight or night time or anytime really .
. It was unsuitable to have a game on Monday ,Friday , Saturday, Sunday or mid week .

09. It's the media
. Too little media , the unfair media ,the negative RL media , too much AFL media
. Our supporters can't read the media (nice pictures though)
. It's war ,according to the Telegraph ,an invasion ,even though football was here before RL ..

10. It's the lack of development by the NRL ,ARL , NSWRL and BRL.... and
. we're facing development from AFL , FFA and Netball .
. NZRL is sponging off Australia and Australia is raping the NZRL
. S14 RU is stealing all our players
. AFL is stealing our players
. FFA will be stealing our players as soon as they expand .

11. It's the lack of blockbusters .
. Sheduled against us was an another big game of .....RU , AFL, AL , NBL , ANL , WNBL.......
. We sheduled a game against another big game of .....RU , AFL, AL , NBL , ANL , WNBL......
. The upcoming Olympics is grabbing everybody's attention
. The recent RU WC is grabbing everybody's attention
. The soccer WC is grabbing everybody's attention
. Even the AFL International Cup is grabbing attention.
. The recent RL WC is not grabbing everybody's attention - blame the AFL for one Australia Vs Ireland IR test

12. The government won't finance new stadiums , but when they do the crowds will be enormous.
. as long as all people are able sit close to the sidelines
. and the ends aren't too far from the action
. and now our stadiums are built they are too big and look empty deterring more people

. Homebush & SFS - small crowds are a visual embarrassment
. Lang Park - now built , no excuses..
. Docklands - state of the art boutique stadium not used as too costly (low crowds)
. Melbourne Olympic Park - now built no excuses
. Perth MES - now upgraded , nrl's wannabe team crowd about 1710 and going down .
. Gosford - new stadium , new savior for Sydney clubs
. Canberra , Cronulla ,Brookvale ,Kogarah , Paramatta , Campbelltown , Penrith , Wollongong -
. stadiums upgrade hasn't helped prevent decline .
. Newcastle upgrade on the way when the club is looking at downsizing .

13. When they gonna have double headers , triple headers ...we can then claim the one crowd for both games !

14 . We don't have -
. a centrally located "home of football" like the AFL .
. the AFL's draft , management , development , clout , and aggressive approach to expansion ..
. a decent game , (but that's the least of our worries)
. $1.2 billion in TV rights.
, People wanting to play our game with more wanting to play AFL than RL in the last 5 years .

15. We do have
. financially stricken leagues clubs unable to support NRL clubs ,
. a new pokie tax that is gonna kill off the leagues clubs .
. a geographically centred stadium at Homebush suited to AFL blockbusters and the GWS .
. new stadium being built at Blacktown for AFL , because the NRL wasn't interested .
. players wanting to leave their NRL contracts to play AFL .


16. When looking at NRL crowd averages
. you cannot look at Sydney in isolation - because they are pathetically low .
. you cannot look at Melbourne because they have no history there and because they are pathetically low .
. you cannot look at this point in time because historically crowds dip this time of year .
. you cannot look at crowds at all because the crowd looked and felt a lot bigger than the official low figure .
. you cannot look at the TV at all because the crowd looked and felt a lot smaller than the official low figure .
. you can look at past pathetically low crowd figures because that shows the present in a good light .
. you overlook that 25% of all rounds affected by SOO with the best 34 players either unavailable or backing up after SOO.
. you cannot look at NRL crowds because the focus is on SOO .
. you cannot look at NRL crowds because they are inflated because they all do it (just ask the Storm)
. you cannot look at NRL crowds because clubs are paid $100k to play to empty stadiums .
. you cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies from passport holding Pacific Islanders.
. you cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies from Moms , nans , nurses and carers .
. you cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies from anyone in their Warriors gear, does a haka or sings the national anthem,
. you cannot look at NRL crowds because they include players, officials, coaching, medical, fitness, trainers, boot studders, waterboys, catering, security, sales and
. turnstile staff and magazine sellers and cheergirls .(you know most of the crowd )..

. you cannot look at NRL crowds because more people turned up to see Russel Crowe than South Sydney .

17. you cannot look at SOO crowds
. because they contain a lot of freebies .
. tickets still are expensive...spending $100 in Sydney to watch footie is way too much
. spending $50 for the nose bleed section is way too much
. it is a big week in sport for sydney
. the game is just too good to watch on TV
, because the same same two teams play each other every year after year after year after year .

18. Canberra is under performing
. because now it supports two clubs .
. It's all a bluff because Canberra are renegotiating their stadium deal.

19. It's a bluff because the AFL want some publicity .

20. It's basically because rl is dying - but that is another list !!!

LOL,LOL,LOL:D:D:D Great stuff! and oh so true.As I have said many times if it wasnt for the Sydney Media's hatred of all things from Melbourne thugby wouldnt get anywhere near the coverage it currently gets.

The crowds and general interest apart from the SSO dont deserve the all free PR it gets.

The coverage of RL in Sydney is about the same as the AFL gets in Vic,SA,and WA but it dosent reflect in the same sort of crowds and genuine interest that those states have for Australian Football.

The AFL only have to keep chipping away in NSW and eventually the public will come around as our game can offer a far better product than thugby with its inherent violence and thuggery.
 
Could have sworn there's been another game...

You are right.Its the WCE v Essendon 35,824 for a total of 220,511 so far.

Might struggle to get 300,000 as Coll v Melb may draw less than 80,000 today the bigesst letdown was the Gee vHawks with only 63,000 I expected at least 75,000.
 
To date

St Kilda v Western Bulldogs - 31,237 at Etihad Stadium
Adelaide v West Coast - 31,412 at AAMI Stadium
Gold Coast v North Melbourne - 14,945 at Gold Coast Stadium.
Geelong v Hawthorn - 63, 476 at MCG
Carlton v Brisbane - 43,617 at Etihad Stadium

What about Sydney vs Richmond-23 000. We'll get well over 300 000 for the round.
 

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Round 12 crowds

St Kilda v Western Bulldogs (Docklands) 31,237
Adelaide v West Coast (Football Park) 31,412
Geelong v Hawthorn (MCG) 63,476
Gold Coast v North Melbourne (Carrara) 14,945
Carlton v Brisbane (Docklands) 43,617
Sydney v Richmond (SCG) 23,782
Fremantle v Essendon (Subiaco) 35,824
Melbourne v Collingwood (MCG) 75,998
 
Average (ytd 2011): 36,619 (93 games)
Average (ytd 2010): 37,483 (108 games)
Average (ytd 2011 exl GC): 37,451 (88 games)

Excluding Gold Coast home games, year or year the average attendance is up slightly.
 
St Kilda v Western Bulldogs (Docklands) 31,237
Adelaide v West Coast (Football Park) 31,412
Geelong v Hawthorn (MCG) 63,476
Gold Coast v North Melbourne (Carrara) 14,945
Carlton v Brisbane (Docklands) 43,617
Sydney v Richmond (SCG) 23,782
Fremantle v Essendon (Subiaco) 35,824
Melbourne v Collingwood (MCG) 75,998

Round 12 2011 Total: 320,291 (UP 27,204)
Round 12 2010 Total: 293,087
Highest Round 12 total ever - new record for rd 12

Round 12 Crowd avrge: 40,036 (UP 3,400)
Round 12 2010 averge: 36,636
Highest Round 12 average ever - new record for Rd 12

Rd 1-12 2011 Total: 3,405,373 (DOWN 193,014)
Rd 1-12 2010 Total: 3,598,387
 
Great crowd at the MCG today, actually thought they might have broken 80,000 as it was pretty packed in alot of areas but still quite good

Only time outside of the first grand final that the MCC area is ever that full, although was more people there today in the MCC than there was for the GF replay last year!

Well thats Because Melbourne fans came out of the woodwook! Good Turnout by both sets of fans I would say 40,000 were Collingwood 30,000 Melbourne and 6,000 nuetrals
 
so the home crowds for the first half of the season, compared to last years final average.

Collingwood 55,355 (DOWN 7,901)
Carlton 53,782 (UP 5,773)
Essendon 50,532 (UP 6,348)

Richmond 45,169 (UP 7,717)
Hawthorn 43,585 (UP 5,609)
Geelong 43,201 (UP 4,067)
Melbourne 40,356 (UP 2,977)

St Kilda 38,181 (UP 172)
Wst Coast 37,539 (UP 2,608)
Fremantle 36,128 (DOWN 444)
Adelaide 35,309 (DOWN 457)

Sydney 26,517 (DOWN 4,158)
North mel 26,507 (UP 2,656)
Western Bulldogs 24,755 (DOWN 5,692)
Port Adel 23,155 (UP 111)
Brisbane 22,278 (DOWN 7,655)
Gold Coast 20,391

Biggest increase - Richmond +7,717
Biggest increase (non vic) - West Coast +2,604
Biggest decrease - Collingwood -7,901
Biggest decrease (non vic) - Brisbane -7,655

Vic Clubs - +2,173 Average
Non Vic Clubs - -1,999 Average (no Gold Coast)
Non Vic Clubs - +1,733 Average (Gold Coast inc)

Top 5 Largest Crowds
89,626 - Essendon v Collingwood
88,181 - Collingwood v Carlton
83,563 - Richmond v Essendon
81,691 - Geelong v Collingwood

Bottom 5 Lowest Crowds (not including Manuka/TIO/Aurora games)
12,111 - Gold Coast v Melbourne (Gabba)
14,945 - Gold Coast v North (Gabba)
16,014 - North v Port (Etihad)
16,274 - Port v Fremantle (Aami)
18,185 - North v Adelaide (Etihad)
 
What about Sydney vs Richmond-23 000. We'll get well over 300 000 for the round.

Sorry my bad I missed that one.Overall 320,000 is fantastic considering the 15,000 at Carrara BTW a tale of two codes in Melbourne on monday AFL 77,000 RL at AAMI 9800.
The Storm have gane backwards since they have moved to the bright shiny new stadium it wasnt supposed to be like as they predicted that they would get 20,000 with all the new supporters and coporates the new facility would attract.
Its now looks conclusively that RL is not wanted in Melbourne on the other hand RU Rebels have been getting much better crowds..Any comment from News Corp the Storms owners?
 
Carlton not a million miles away from Collingwood at the top of the averages.

Coll's 2 public holidays are now gone. Could the Blues challenge for top spot this year?

Possibly... our crowds have been a touch disappointing thus far. However, our home games for the rest of the season are Hawthorn, North, Essendon, St Kilda and Geelong. Carlton have Sydney, West Coast, Melbourne, Hawthorn and St Kilda.

It will be close, and it all depends on form and weather, but I still think Collingwood may edge it.
 
Sorry my bad I missed that one.Overall 320,000 is fantastic considering the 15,000 at Carrara BTW a tale of two codes in Melbourne on monday AFL 77,000 RL at AAMI 9800.
The Storm have gane backwards since they have moved to the bright shiny new stadium it wasnt supposed to be like as they predicted that they would get 20,000 with all the new supporters and coporates the new facility would attract.
Its now looks conclusively that RL is not wanted in Melbourne on the other hand RU Rebels have been getting much better crowds..Any comment from News Corp the Storms owners?

I remember people saying exactly the same thing about the swans in the early 90's when our home crowds averaged 8,000
 

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