2011 crowds

[JD-Roo]

I'm wondering that if the Storm are averaging 10,000-ish in this 'peak' time, what will happen during the inevitable slide/cycle down in 3-5 years time?

 

[gaelictiogar]

Please stop comparing the trajectory of Swans and Storm support. The Swans are the best supported sporting club in Sydney. The Storm are not even top 10 in Melbourne.

Swans have three times as many matchgoing fans as Storm. There is no comparison. RL cannot succeed outside of its east coast heartland.

 

[The_Wookie]

Wookie, I've found your calculator...

Get to work, son.

Sorry Dad, took the weekend off. Just caught up now lol.

Round 13 crowds
Western Bulldogs v Adelaide (Docklands) 19,363
Essendon v North Melbourne (Docklands) 42,329
Hawthorn v Gold Coast (York) 16,377
Brisbane v Richmond (Gabba) 21,510
St Kilda v Geelong (MCG) 39,539
Melbourne v Fremantle (MCG) 19,092
Carlton v Sydney (Docklands) 42,788
West Coast v Port Adelaide (Subiaco) 35,059

Round 13 2011 Total: 236,057 (DOWN 60,999, DOWN 46,736 on 5 YR Ave)
Round 13 2010 Total: 297,056
Round 13 2008 Total: 269,748 (Record Attendance year)
Round 13 5 YR Avrge: 282,793
LOWEST Round 13 Aggregate Crowd since Round 13, 1996 (225,012)
LOWEST Round Aggregate Crowd of ANY round since Round 7, 2006 (231,779)

Round 13 2011 Avrge: 29,507 (DOWN 1,625, DOWN 5,842 on 5 YR Ave)
Round 13 2010 Avrge: 31,132
Round 13 5 Yr Avrge: 35,349
LOWEST Round 13 Average Crowd since Round 13, 1996 (28,127)
LOWEST Average crowd of ANY round since Round 7, 2006 (28,972)

2011 R1-13 Aggregte: 3,641,430 (DOWN 254,013, DOWN 172,099 on 5 YR Ave)
2010 R1-13 Aggregte: 3,895,443
2008 R1-13 Aggregte: 3,967,884 (Record attendance year)
5 YR R1-13 Average-: 3,813,529
Note: 3 Rounds this year have failed to produce any crowd of 50,000+ (Rnds 2,7,13), a similar result to the same time last year, so this is not a factor in the lower crowds.

2011 R1-13 Average-: 36,054 (101 matches) - (DOWN 1,402, DOWN 827 on 5 YR Ave)
2010 R1-13 Average-: 37,456 (104 matches)
2008 R1-13 Average-: 38,153 (104 matches)
5 YR R1-13 Average-: 36,881 (517 matches)

2011 Season Agregte: 6,722,640 (predicted on current numbers + 2 extra full rounds)
2010 Season Agregte: 6,495,680
2008 Season Agregte: 6,511,255 (Record attendance year)
Note: AFL Crowds are still on target to shatter the old record by more than 200,000 despite a lower match average which was to be expected with Gold Coast entry.

 

[cos789]

Please stop comparing the trajectory of Swans and Storm support.

There is no problem in comparing the trajectory of the Storm and Swans (even though it gets very tiresome to rehash the same facts) it's the not comparing that is the problem . Assumptions are made without looking at the basic differences .The only thing in common between those two clubs was that an elite football club was introduced into a minority situation .A better comparison might be with the GWS .The GWS is a brand new team ,fully underwritten and established in the centre of a high population area which tradionally has not shown a lot of support for it's code but rather that of another .

 

[JR78]

Demetriou couldn't care less about numbers at the grounds. The AFL is fixated with the TV rights so ratings on TV are now the number 1 priority.

If this wasn't the case then Tasmania would have been the 17th team in the comp. But, Tasmanians already love AFL and watch it on TV so no need to include them.

 

[Hornberger]

Demetriou couldn't care less about numbers at the grounds. The AFL is fixated with the TV rights so ratings on TV are now the number 1 priority.

If this wasn't the case then Tasmania would have been the 17th team in the comp. But, Tasmanians already love AFL and watch it on TV so no need to include them.

You are very wrong
Next year the Cash componenet of the TV rights will be about $180,000,000.
In 2008 net match returns for the 16 clubs was $150,000,000.

Next year, with two extra clubs, match returns will be about equal in size to the cash component of TV rights but unlike TV rights are not fixed in a long term deal.

 

[Redb#]

I'm wondering that if the Storm are averaging 10,000-ish in this 'peak' time, what will happen during the inevitable slide/cycle down in 3-5 years time?

Exactly what happened to them in the early to mid 2000's - low crowds, disinterest. Waldron cheated the cap as he knew the decline could only be averted by major success (07,09) and it worked to some extent as some jumped on the bandwagon.

Unless they can stay on top of the NRL forever the decline into obscurity is inevitable for the Storm despite the Herald Sun's best efforts.

 

[magic_johnson!]

In 2008 net match returns for the 16 clubs was $150,000,000.

Do you have a link? This is just for the clubs, so not including the amount the AFL and stadiums earn?

When you add costs of flights, trains, petrol, food etc, the government would be much more keen to protect a code which stimulates the economy so much...

 

[Roddy]

What were the numbers this week?

 

[magic_johnson!]

Off the top of my head
65,000
16,000
62,000
38,000
30,000
23,000
38,000
17,000?

 

[Dont be a lemon]

Round 14 crowds

Hawthorn v Essendon (MCG) 64,537
Gold Coast v Western Bulldogs (Carrara) 16,149
Richmond v Melbourne (MCG) 61,900
Sydney v Collingwood (Stadium Australia) 38,053
Fremantle v Brisbane (Subiaco) 30,330
Geelong v Adelaide (Kardinia) 23,246
Carlton v West Coast (Docklands) 38,241
Port Adelaide v North Melbourne (Football Park) 17,275

 

[azza29]

Overall fairly decent crowds this weekend - Hawks/Bombers and Tigers/Dees are both about 10k up on what you'd expect. Swans/Pies and Blues/Eagles have very respectable crowds too.

Only real low is Port v North, but then they'd struggle to crack 15k if that had been played in Melbourne.

 

[Donakebab]

No way was there 64,537 on Friday night, mark it around 55k mark imo. Guessing additional tickets may have been scanned due to Hawthorn's two for one offer.

 

[azza29]

No way was there 64,537 on Friday night, mark it around 55k mark imo. Guessing additional tickets may have been scanned due to Hawthorn's two for one offer.

It did look a little empty - I reckon about 10,000 Essendon supporters left at half time though.

 

[clarkoscluster]

No way was there 64,537 on Friday night, mark it around 55k mark imo. Guessing additional tickets may have been scanned due to Hawthorn's two for one offer.

What 2 for 1 offer?

 

[Papa G]

Only real low is Port v North, but then they'd struggle to crack 15k if that had been played in Melbourne.

Not a great crowd to be sure, but really at least half the comp wouldn't do much better for a twighlight game on a Sunday night against a low drawing interstate opposition in the middle of winter (although thank God the weather was alright) when they were sitting 16th.

 

[Hornberger]

Only real low is Port v North, but then they'd struggle to crack 15k if that had been played in Melbourne.

Under normal conditons yes, but North had won the past 3 are on the verge of the top 8 and it would have been an almost certain win. Had it been played in Melbourne yesterday it would have got 20k

 

[Papa G]

Under normal conditons yes, but North had won the past 3 are on the verge of the top 8 and it would have been an almost certain win. Had it been played in Melbourne yesterday it would have got 20k

No it wouldn't.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

disappointed we didn't get around the 33-35k mark

i blame the poor weather and poor opponent

city end of the ground was horrible to look at (brisbane's cheer squad were virtually non-existent!)

 

[Hornberger]

No it wouldn't.

They got 16k on a Saturday afternoon in round 6 after they had lost their first 4 games. Even adjusting for the different time slot their change in form would have gotten them to 20k.

 

[Donakebab]

What 2 for 1 offer?

Didn't know about it til I got to the ground, heard it being announced over a PA out the front.

 

[La Vache]

Didn't know about it til I got to the ground, heard it being announced over a PA out the front.

But 2 for 1 what?

For the Freo game each member got a free GA ticket to give to someone but I wasn't made aware of any such arrangement on Friday night?

I'd be pretty pissed that I wasn't informed and my mates didn't actually have to pay

 

[clarkoscluster]

But 2 for 1 what?

For the Freo game each member got a free GA ticket to give to someone but I wasn't made aware of any such arrangement on Friday night?

I'd be pretty pissed that I wasn't informed and my mates didn't actually have to pay

Correct weight. Pretty sure the membership dept would have let us know about a 2 for 1 deal for this game...

 

[Hawkk]

No way was there 64,537 on Friday night, mark it around 55k mark imo. Guessing additional tickets may have been scanned due to Hawthorn's two for one offer.

Incorrect weight

The AFL has offered 2 for 1 packages for AFL members at select games (I'm not sure this was a game) but Hawthorn members did not have the opportunity to select 2 tickets for this game

Most of the empty seats down at the Punt Road End have been empty for all our home games this season aside from the Easter Tuesday game.

The Richmond-Melbourne and the Carlton-West Coast games were the clear standouts of the round (approximately 15-20,000 above usual)

 

[Donakebab]

I dunno what the deal was sorry guys, obviously not my home game, just heard it over the PA at two gates. Think at gate 3 GA (walked past) and definitely heard it at gate 6 AFL members. Just looked on the Hawthorn website, nothing, and google drew a blank too.

Edit: Too slow, thanks for clearing it up Hawkk. Are the 2 for 1 AFL membership offers club targeted or across the board? Only just changed the emails I receive from a dead email account.