MRP / Trib. 2015 MRP/ Carlton Tribunal News & Reports (aka Chook lotto)

[gbatman]

Schulz and Gibbs, exactly the same thing. Forget the two action argument, are you or aren't you allowed to grab a guy and slam them into the ground? Both players did the same thing, both had the option not to slam their opponents into the ground but did. I think the AFL have made this a real balls up. One that has influenced the ladder as well as Carlton may well have won with Gibbs over the Doggies in a game that was extremely crucial for them.

 

[TooBlue14]

I don't understand how an ex player like Luke ball gets make decisions on player penalties 1 year after leaving the game. He got caned on the Sunday footy show about the decision and had nothing to say.

It doesn't surprise me the afl have had nothing to say so far. I'm glad trigg has put a formal complaint into afl - please explain. ****ing joke

 

[gbatman]

Very glad we have made a complaint, this seems to be a case of the AFL making the rules up as the go. I don't see how the AFL can make up a rule after something has happened, lay a suspension for something that really isn't clearly or at all an offence then the following week change the rules again and all clear it.

 

[TooBlue14]

What will the afl say if ted Richards doesn't play this weekend. Whereas Gray played straight away.

 

[PuffDragon89]

They'll say Port had a bye and Gray had an extra week to recover while ignoring Gray never actually had a concussion in the first place.

 

[Blue__Balls]

They'll say Port had a bye and Gray had an extra week to recover while ignoring Gray never actually had a concussion in the first place.

"Expert testimony from the Sydney medical team has shown that Ted Richards was actually just taking a nap - this had nothing to do with the perfectly executed, and really quite caring, "tackle" laid by Jay Schulz."

 

[RiCHii]

Absolutely dirty on this decision from the MRP, no consistency at all. I'd almost go as far as to say that if Gibbs had of played V WB, we may have chalked up another win.

 

[PuffDragon89]

"Expert testimony from the Sydney medical team has shown that Ted Richards was actually just taking a nap - this had nothing to do with the perfectly executed, and really quite caring, "tackle" laid by Jay Schulz."

AFL calling up a favour for all the times the MRP helped them in the past.

 

[ferrisb]

Colquhoun was the bloke Graham caught HTB.

You'll have to be more specific

 

[Cipher]

Schulz and Gibbs, exactly the same thing. Forget the two action argument, are you or aren't you allowed to grab a guy and slam them into the ground? Both players did the same thing, both had the option not to slam their opponents into the ground but did. I think the AFL have made this a real balls up. One that has influenced the ladder as well as Carlton may well have won with Gibbs over the Doggies in a game that was extremely crucial for them.

Yeah this is correct, far too simplistic to differentiate the decision based on the no. of actions alone. Gibbs' initial action was to stop Gray's momentum whereas Richards was already all but stationary, from that point the actions and outcomes are the same.

The appearance of one or two actions will be impacted based on players' momentum, size difference etc. What should be judged is the slamming action, and whether that action alone warrants suspension.

This whole two actions thing is just a cop out for their ineptitude.

 

[Big Sim]

Very glad we have made a complaint, this seems to be a case of the AFL making the rules up as the go. I don't see how the AFL can make up a rule after something has happened, lay a suspension for something that really isn't clearly or at all an offence then the following week change the rules again and all clear it.

Thats it in a very tidy nutshell Batty. The AFL makes up rules so that they can whack players who dont break the rules if the media bloodlust reaches a certain temperature. Chickengate was the finest example of that.

But of course you tie yourself in knots doing it and inevitably land flat on your face. Again and again.

 

[Big Sim]

Dwayne Russell went off his head trying to get Gibbs suspended. Massive media involvement in the MRP verdict.

Schulz had BT, Darcy jumping over themselves to cover him. The fact that our MRP system is dictated by the media so heavily is a joke.

And don't forget you have to take the remonstrations or lack thereof of the unconscious players team mates into account, according those clowns.

 

[Sector 7G]

And don't forget you have to take the remonstrations or lack thereof of the unconscious players team mates into account, according those clowns.

I think they were all more worried on whether Richards was still alive after he was slammed head first into the turf, where as Gray pretty much hit the ground chest and head together. One of the worst concussion I can think of.

 

[TeeJay Blue]

Absolutely dirty on this decision from the MRP, no consistency at all. I'd almost go as far as to say that if Gibbs had of played V WB, we may have chalked up another win.

Gibba 'the Gazza of baggers'.

 

[gbatman]

Yeah this is correct, far too simplistic to differentiate the decision based on the no. of actions alone. Gibbs' initial action was to stop Gray's momentum whereas Richards was already all but stationary, from that point the actions and outcomes are the same.

The appearance of one or two actions will be impacted based on players' momentum, size difference etc. What should be judged is the slamming action, and whether that action alone warrants suspension.

This whole two actions thing is just a cop out for their ineptitude.

There were two actions in both, the tackle and bringing the player to ground. Only difference and it was marginal was that Gibbs took longer to bring Gray down. Schultz being a bigger and more powerful guy had no trouble grabbing and slamming Richards down with more ease.

 

[PuffDragon89]

There were two actions in both, the tackle and bringing the player to ground. Only difference and it was marginal was that Gibbs took longer to bring Gray down. Schultz being a bigger and more powerful guy had no trouble grabbing and slamming Richards down with more ease.

Richards was also bumped out fairly easily of at least 2 contests earlier in game, didn't seem to be anchored down any stage during pick up or tackle either. Gray dug in and Gibbs had to use more force. According to net, only 2kgs between Schulz and Teddy and 1kg between Gibbs and Gray.

 

[TommyMcG]

Classic comeback from gibbs after colquhoun was dropped.

 

[El Topo]

love the banter

 

[Balony_pony16]

View attachment 150583 Classic comeback from gibbs after colquhoun was dropped.

Funny banter... wish more players did this

 

[NavyBlue5]

View attachment 150583 Classic comeback from gibbs after colquhoun was dropped.

Oh wow... That's a ripper!

 

[Aphrodite]

Barker says Blues sought clarification from AFL on Gibbs tackle. “We were clear... & then the incident came last weekend. We’re confused”

 

[Stamos]

Selwood's arm grab so much worse than Judd's 'chicken wing'. Watch him get off

 

[LanceRomance]

I notice the cotchin belly punch has been ignored since ralphy reported it last night

 

[Navy Cream]

Snap shot: Gibbs-2 weeks. Player tackled ok to play. Schultz similar offence- no penalty. Player tackled missed 1 week concussion.

Judd-4 weeks(albeit 2012), Selwood similar offence- TBC.
Interesting.

 

[Navy Cream]

I notice the cotchin belly punch has been ignored since ralphy reported it last night

Which one?