2016 Ladder Predictions

[MC_9]

I never said you would fall of a cliff or fonish behind Richmond...They will fall away at a slow pace...

Sorry the Richmond part was just in response to other post in the thread.

 

[marty36]

Did I hurt your feeling not having crows top 11?

Not at all but to place 5th when you have Cloke at the helm of a forward line, you would think maybe lucky to kick 10 goals a game. But I suppose its not the forward line that wins games in your opinion!

 

[nahnah]

Not at all but to place 5th when you have Cloke at the helm of a forward line, you would think maybe lucky to kick 10 goals a game. But I suppose its not the forward line that wins games in your opinion!

Cloke kicked 35 goals in 2010... Dawes was our second key forward.

We have a lot of goal kicking mids plus Elliott, Moore and Fasolo (hopefully he's improved)

 

[Mr Bombastic]

Not at all but to place 5th when you have Cloke at the helm of a forward line, you would think maybe lucky to kick 10 goals a game. But I suppose its not the forward line that wins games in your opinion!

Cloke, Moore, Fasolo, Elliott, Howe and Swan playing forward should see us score more than enough, then you can include our mids who will spend time down there us well.

The Crows have a very good forward line, but are very average elsewhere. You guys barley scraped into the 8 with Danger carrying you, I give you little chance to make finals this year without him.

 

[marty36]

Cloke, Moore, Fasolo, Elliott, Howe and Swan playing forward should see us score more than enough, then you can include our mids who will spend time down there us well.

The Crows have a very good forward line, but are very average elsewhere. You guys barley scraped into the 8 with Danger carrying you, I give you little chance to make finals this year without him.

I would say our backline is a bit stronger than yours also with a couple of AA's in Tahlia and Smith, but yeh I suppose the entire team was carried by a guy with questionable disposal, I cant see your collingwood logic on that! I would say we have yourselves well and truly covered up forward without question, down back, with Pendelbury and Swan you have us covered in the guts but not a chance in ruck! So I am fairly cofortable we could finish above Collingwood also considering we finished well above you last year and adding Menzel,Hampton anmd Seedsman will certainly give us that depth we lacked and it appears our first rounder may even get a crack at AFL this year the way he is performing in Milera.

But if you finish 5th as suggested I cant see us finishing in the top 4 , so maybe your prediction is wrong!

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Not at all but to place 5th when you have Cloke at the helm of a forward line, you would think maybe lucky to kick 10 goals a game. But I suppose its not the forward line that wins games in your opinion!

it did win them a premiership...so there's that...

they have an average forward line but they have midfield that bats 10 deep in quality. they will run riot around most teams this year. i don't like it anymore than you do.

 

[marty36]

Firstly I don't have to tell you anything we can revisit this end of season, secondly freo finished top 4 last year with a bad forward line

I rate the Pav one of freo's best ever players probably the best until Fyfe gets more runs on the board, dont know if you do?

 

[Mr Bombastic]

I would say our backline is a bit stronger than yours also with a couple of AA's in Tahlia and Smith, but yeh I suppose the entire team was carried by a guy with questionable disposal, I cant see your collingwood logic on that! I would say we have yourselves well and truly covered up forward without question, down back, with Pendelbury and Swan you have us covered in the guts but not a chance in ruck! So I am fairly cofortable we could finish above Collingwood also considering we finished well above you last year and adding Menzel,Hampton anmd Seedsman will certainly give us that depth we lacked and it appears our first rounder may even get a crack at AFL this year the way he is performing in Milera.

But if you finish 5th as suggested I cant see us finishing in the top 4 , so maybe your prediction is wrong!

I don't recall saying we'd finish 5th? Dangerfeild is a gun mate, he's a top 5 player in the AFL and was your best player, downplaying the loss of him is embarrassing. You added some depth players whoopie do, we recruiting 2 best 22 players one being very good in Treloar. Also your first round pick may play round 1, so what? Milera looks to be a great young player but being a first year player he won't contribute to your teams wins a whole lot this season.

Of course Adelaide are a chance to finish above us this season, but I personally don't think it will happen.

 

[marty36]

I don't recall saying we'd finish 5th? Dangerfeild is a gun mate, he's a top 5 player in the AFL and was your best player, downplaying the loss of him is embarrassing. You added some depth players whoopie do, we recruiting 2 best 22 players one being very good in Treloar. Also your first round pick may play round 1, so what? Milera looks to be a great young player but being a first year player he won't contribute to your teams wins a whole lot this season.

Of course Adelaide are a chance to finish above us this season, but I personally don't think it will happen.

Im not downplaying the loss, we are obviously going to better with him in the team, but its not the be all and end all, it may affect us but wouldnt say it puts us out of contention for losing one player with a fairly young list with limited old players being one only player over 30. The teams like Adelaide including Collingwood will finsih 5-12th, the teams that dont make it, will be because of injury and form to their top 22 players, we go into the 1st round with one player in hampton with a sore foot on the injury list, Im starting to feel good about this year, if that injury list stays at a reasonable level. I would say your chances will go out the window as will ours depending on who is on the park and playing in that top 22

 

[HeHateMe]

I'll revise my ladder prediction.

H&A
1. Fremantle
2. Hawthorn
3. West Coast
4. Richmond
5. Bulldogs
6. Geelong
7. Sydney
8. North Melbourne

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[Apex36]

That's your prerogative but when I see the midfield I just see either a lot of butchers (Greenwood, Adams) or players who don't find the ball a heap, with the exception of Treloar and Pendles.

You haven't really watched the Pies this preseason, huh? Adams' kicking has improved exceptionally, Swan picked up 26 disposals against WB playing in cruise control, and De Goey has been our standout player at clearances.

Treloar will play through the guts, but expect to see Pendlebury rotated through the forward line and defence this year. Our reliance on him will be significantly reduced this year.

 

[Apex36]

Rd1. GWS (H) W
Rd2. Ess (A) W
Rd3. North Melb (A) 50/50
Rd4. Collingwood (A) W
Rd5. Richmond (H) W
Rd6. St.Kilda (H) W
Rd7. Gold Coast (A) W
Rd8. Bulldogs (H) W
Rd9. Brisbane (H) W
Rd10. Port (A) 50/50
Rd11. Hawthorn (A) L
Rd12. Collingwood (H) W
Rd13. Sydney (A) 50/50
Rd14 Bye
Rd15. Adelaide (H) L
Rd16. Fremantle L
Rd17. St.kilda (A) W
Rd18. West coast (A) L
RD19. Gold coast (H) W
RD20. Hawthorn (H) L
RD21. Port (A) 50/50
RD22. Carlton (A) W
RD23. Geelong (A) 50/50

So I have 12 Wins, 5 chances and 5 Losses. 5th-8th.

You're in for a rough year if that list is your genuine expectation.

 

[iDon]

Let's not continue with personal attacks guys.

Move on.

 

[Collingwoodity]

My thoughts which are bound to be very wrong:
Nearly guaranteed top 8, high chance at top 4:
- Hawks
- Dockers
- Eagles
Very good chance at top 8, decent chance at top 4:
- Tigers
- Swans
Good chance top 8, may miss, outside chance at top 4:
- Cats
- Crows
- Dogs
- Pies
- Port
- Kangaroos
Outside chance top 8:
- Giants
- Suns
Won't make 8:
- Dees
- Saints
- Lions
Bottom 2:
- Blues
- Bombers
So eleven decent chances to make the eight with two outside chances in my opinion.

Probably the best post in this thread.

 

[Tiger71]

You haven't really watched the Pies this preseason, huh? Adams' kicking has improved exceptionally, Swan picked up 26 disposals against WB playing in cruise control, and De Goey has been our standout player at clearances.

Treloar will play through the guts, but expect to see Pendlebury rotated through the forward line and defence this year. Our reliance on him will be significantly reduced this year.

Saw a bit of the pies this off season. Agree on Adams kicking but interested in your thoughts on the lack of any real pressure. You think it will stand up come the real stuff ? ( Adams kicking). The three games you played were all just offensive shootouts without any real lock down defending, hence my question.

 

[Apex36]

Saw a bit of the pies this off season. Agree on Adams kicking but interested in your thoughts on the lack of any real pressure. You think it will stand up come the real stuff ? ( Adams kicking). The three games you played were all just offensive shootouts without any real lock down defending, hence my question.

Confident that Adams' kicking will stand up during the season. His major issue was decision making when he had time and space, often panicking and stuffing up the kick under little to no pressure. It's something he's actively worked on this preseason, and it looks to have paid off. Funnily enough, his kicking under pressure was never really that bad, so I can't see it becoming too much of an issue suddenly.

 

[Sando22]

1. West Coast
2. Hawthorn
3. Richmond
4. Sydney
5. Fremantle
6. Adelaide
7. Collingwood
8. Melbourne
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9. Geelong
10. GWS
11. Western Bulldogs
12. Port Adelaide
13. North
14. Gold Coast
15. Brisbane
16. St Kilda
17. Essendon
18. Carlton

Brownlow: Sloane
Coleman: Kennedy (WC)
Premiership: Hawthorn (unfortunately)

Dees in the 8

 

[eth-dog]

You haven't really watched the Pies this preseason, huh? Adams' kicking has improved exceptionally, Swan picked up 26 disposals against WB playing in cruise control, and De Goey has been our standout player at clearances.

Treloar will play through the guts, but expect to see Pendlebury rotated through the forward line and defence this year. Our reliance on him will be significantly reduced this year.

I have but it seems like I'm one of very few (especially on the Essendon board in regards to a few players) that only takes NAB form with a grain of salt. Swans are usually terrible in pre-season but always step up during it.

NAB form should only be used to assess what young players could have an impact for the future at said club.

 

[getgaff]

1. West Coast
2. Fremantle
3. Hawthorn
4. Sydney

5. North
6. Richmond
7. Geelong
8. Collingwood
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9. Port
10. Bulldogs
11. Adelaide
12. GWS
13. Melbourne
14. St Kilda
15. Gold Coast
16. Brisbane
17. Carlton
18. Essendon

Coleman Medalist: Josh Kennedy
Brownlow: Nathan Fyfe/ Leading vote getter WC: Luke Shuey
Rising Star: Darcy Moore/ Leading vote getter WC: Tom Lamb

 

[jdeezy]

I threw my tips into http://fantasy.foxsports.com.au/afl/predictor/tipping/#tipping and this ladder is what came out (note I had to manually add Round 23).

1 FREMANTLE 68 (17/5)
2 WEST COAST 64 (16/6)
3 HAWTHORN 64 (16/6)
4 PORT ADELAIDE 60 (15/7)
5 GEELONG CATS 60 (15/7)
6 SYDNEY 60 (15/7)
7 RICHMOND 56 (14/8)
8 GWS GIANTS 56 (14/8)
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9 NORTH MELBOURNE 56 (14/8)
10 ADELAIDE 52 (13/9)
11 COLLINGWOOD 44 (11/11)
12 BULLDOGS 44 (11/11)
13 GOLD COAST SUNS 28 (7/15)
14 ST KILDA 24 (6/16)
15 MELBOURNE 16 (4/18)
16 BRISBANE 16 (4/18)
17 ESSENDON 16 (4/18)
18 CARLTON 8 (2/20)

To be honest this is pretty bloody close to what I was thinking before going through each game. I didn't realise how close I thought this year would be (14 wins still missing the 8, 3 wins off top).


Side Note: that the GWS / North game in Rd 23 meant GWS snuck in on behalf of North, who were actually above the Giants and Richmond before then, and the wooden spoon was decided by the Essendon / Carlton Rd 23 match, too. Port only 4th on a tiny percentage / points dif over Geelong.

 

[marty36]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/injury-news/injury-list

Latest news on injury lists which will be the key factor in any prediction add in the drug cheats to these lists and you can see how teams are tracking and with such thread these lists will be the make or break for clubs

 

[Monopoly_Man]

1. West Coast
2. Hawthorn
3. Fremantle
4. Port Adelaide
5. Geelong
6. Richmond
7. Collingwood
8. Western Bulldogs
9. Sydney
10. Adelaide
11. North Melbourne
12. GWS
13. Gold Coast
14. Melbourne
15. Brisbane
16. St Kilda
17. Carlton
18. Essendon

Premiers: West Coast
Runners Up: Hawthorn
Brownlow: Gary Ablett
Coleman: Kennedy

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[Lumpy432]

1. Freo
2. Port Adelaide
3. Richmond
4. Hawthorne
5. Eagles
6. Adelaide
7. GWS
8. Dogs

9. Sydney
10. Geelong
11. North Melbourne
12. Collingwood
13. Gold Coast
14. Saints
15. Melbourne
16. Brisbane
17. Carlton
18.
19. Essendon

GWS to make a prelim.

 

[Rack Watts]

1. Hawthorn
2. West Coast
3. Fremantle
4. Geelong
5. Collingwood
6. Sydney
7. North Melbourne
8. Melbourne
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9. Richmond
10. Footscray
11. Adelaide
12. Port Adelaide
13. Greater Western Sydney
14. St. Kilda
15. Gold Coast
16. Brisbane
17. Essendon
18. Carlton

 

[LeverPuller]

Stat of the day:

The last time both Melbourne and Richmond played finals in the same season was 1941.