Autopsy 2016 National Draft (NM Picks: 11; 32; 33; 80)

[Kimbo]

From what I've read Brodie has quite good pace, explodes out of contests and his kicking in a contested situation is very good. If he's available at our pick we'd be silly not to take him. Even only a couple of months ago he was being talked about as a potential number one. While he isn't the outside speed and class we all want, he is too good a player (who is potentially better than all the mids we currently have) to pass up on

There's more to it than the highlights clips I've seen, no doubt, but having seem them the player I saw didn't fit this description.

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

One a bit of track but should there be a trade period after the draft?

It makes sense to me because it allows you to make better decisions on what you need for the year ahead.

Trading should be allowed up until midnight the night before the draft.

 

[generalleftfield]

From what I've read Brodie has quite good pace, explodes out of contests and his kicking in a contested situation is very good. If he's available at our pick we'd be silly not to take him. Even only a couple of months ago he was being talked about as a potential number one. While he isn't the outside speed and class we all want, he is too good a player (who is potentially better than all the mids we currently have) to pass up on

It certainly doesn't look like he has pace to burn, but he looks faster then what we have. I like that he could play round 1. The concern would be that it would just give us more of the same kind. Maybe it will depend on what we think we can get with the later picks. If we like some pacy players taht we think could be ours in the second round maybe it won't hurt as much to have Brodie in the first. He certainly looks like a can't miss prospect and I don't feel as confident about Florent.

 

[tales129]

I'm all for Brodie at least you know he will be a hit. Seriously **** drafting guys with potentially high ceilings if they can't reach them. We've had an average run with speculative teens picks/late first rounders. Take the 200gamer along with mutch another potential 200gamer and take the risk at 32/33

 

[Nutjob]

Whoever we pick in the 30's is going to have a fault or two. I just don't think our list can afford to pick blokes that have a fault of not being able to kick. We have enough players who struggle by foot and I don't think we can afford to add to that list. Especially when you consider wells, dal, mckenzie and boomer have made that hole even bigger. Not to say Clarke won't make it. I just feel it won't be with us.


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[Pykie]

Jesus, you'd have to go Brodie, wouldn't you? Really well rounded midfielder, big body, runs hard, smart as ****. 200 gamer for sure.

Yes, yes we will

He's a Bryce Lewis type all over, having trained with us, and impressed, no way he gets past us.

We just need good midfielders, full stop, he fits the bill.

 

[Donkey Chop]

Brodie would be a great pickup with our first. Can't believe he could be available.

 

[Pykie]

Brodie would be a great pickup with our first. Can't believe he could be available.

I think most of us would prefer to see Clarke in an outside role anyway.

Having lost Wells and Dal Santo (When playing) they were actually involved in a fair percentage of center bounces at times. We need to replace that.

Obviously Dumont will get a huge increase in workload next year, but another ball winner definitely wouldn't hurt. Especially if Swallow is still on his last legs.

 

[SnowyontheTram]

Flor

Makes sense: if Taranto, Hayward, English, Scrimshaw and Logue are going to bolt, someone has to fall. It won't be SPS, it won't be Setterfield, McCluggage or McGrath. The question is, do we take Brodie as BPA or go for Florent or Simpkin?

Florent!!!

 

[Higgo2Froggy]

Brodie would be a steal if he fell to us. Personally praying SPS slides to us, would be a perfect fit for us, though can't see that happening.
If both those two are gone by our pick, happy to go with Florent

 

[Donkey Chop]

I think most of us would prefer to see Clarke in an outside role anyway.

Having lost Wells and Dal Santo (When playing) they were actually involved in a fair percentage of center bounces at times. We need to replace that.

Obviously Dumont will get a huge increase in workload next year, but another ball winner definitely wouldn't hurt. Especially if Swallow is still on his last legs.

Add to that Greenwood the year before and it's obvious or midfield has taken a bit of a hit.

while he is an inside mid, he is a different beast to Cunnington, Ziebell & Swallow. He'd complement our mids well specially if Anderson, Ahern, Clarke & McDonald rotate through there.

 

[Pykie]

Twomey and Ablett did a mock today on AFL.com, had us bidding on Perryman, then taking Scrimshaw.

 

[Donkey Chop]

Twomey and Ablett did a mock today on AFL.com, had us bidding on Perryman, then taking Scrimshaw.

Would you be happy with Scrimshaw?

 

[Groucho]

Josh Begley sounds ok. May be there in the 30's?

 

[dus]

SPP.

Balls deep.

 

[Pykie]

Would you be happy with Scrimshaw?

Yep absolutely.

Brodie, Scrimshaw, SPS, Florent, Perryman, Simpkin, Venebles are all good picks.

Unless we take a big reach (or a tall), I don't think we will be disappointed come draft night.

I think Brodie, Scrimshaw and SPS are in the prefered pack, Florent and Perryman in the next and Simpkin and Venebles sit in the big upside 3rd pack for me.

 

[Groucho]

Yep absolutely.

Brodie, Scrimshaw, SPS, Florent, Perryman, Simpkin, Venebles are all good picks.

Unless we take a big reach (or a tall), I don't think we will be disappointed come draft night.

SPP a bit of a reach at nominal 11?

 

[Pykie]

SPP a bit of a reach at nominal 11?

A little, but I could see the reasoning. He's a big, athletic unit, no doubt will become a fan favourite, especially if he goes around the 20's and play a fair bit of football. The others are bit more polished though, especially in this draft, it's stacked with good mids.

Also, I genuinely think one of the brothers will be at the club next year.

They're both ranked around our second rounders, would be deserving of selection at one of those picks and the club would certainly take the brother aspect into consideration for more than sentimentality (i.e they don't have to worry about background, know the families inside and out, adjustment and settlement of the players would be easier etc etc). I think they'd prefer Clarke if given the choice, he's eerily similar to Swallow in his draft year tbh, absolute ball and contested machine at U/18 level, big query on kicking, sliding to late 30's (40's in Swallows case).

The side has an inability to accumulate the footy, it's no good opponents smashing each mid by 7-8 touches a game. Clarke is arguably the best ball winner in the entire pool and will be available close to our second rounder. the other thing is his pressure/endurance combo, he tackles and tackles, he not only wins it 25 times a game but pulls big tackle numbers. Could see him forging a Kirk/Sewell type career.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

I think most of us would prefer to see Clarke in an outside role anyway.

Hibberd and Mountford too. Our lack of outside class isn't necessarily going to be solved only by pick 11.

I think Florent is special but if Brodie is the best player available we shouldn't pass him up because he's an inside mid.

 

[remfan101]

A little, but I could see the reasoning. He's a big, athletic unit, no doubt will become a fan favourite, especially if he goes around the 20's and play a fair bit of football. The others are bit more polished though, especially in this draft, it's stacked with good mids.

Also, I genuinely think one of the brothers will be at the club next year.

They're both ranked around our second rounders, would be deserving of selection at one of those picks and the club would certainly take the brother aspect into consideration for more than sentimentality (i.e they don't have to worry about background, know the families inside and out, adjustment and settlement of the players would be easier etc etc). I think they'd prefer Clarke if given the choice, he's eerily similar to Swallow in his draft year tbh, absolute ball and contested machine at U/18 level, big query on kicking, sliding to late 30's (40's in Swallows case).

The side has an inability to accumulate the footy, it's no good opponents smashing each mid by 7-8 touches a game. Clarke is arguably the best ball winner in the entire pool and will be available close to our second rounder. the other thing is his pressure/endurance combo, he tackles and tackles, he not only wins it 25 times a game but pulls big tackle numbers. Could see him forging a Kirk/Sewell type career.

It depends on what we get with our first. If we take Brodie at 11 (we'd have to if he slides) then we definitely shouldn't take either brother as we'd have a huge list imbalance. If we take Florent with our first then I agree we should look at one of them, but I'd disagree with you as to which one we should pick. While its true that Dylan Clarke has shown an ability to rack up the footy and is a "contested beast", whats the point of getting heaps of touches if you butcher it by foot? Also watching Clarke play a lot of his ability to break out of congestion and crunch people in tackles comes from the fact that he is a lot more physically mature than the other guys. With his lack of any pace whatsoever and no standout trait I can only see him becoming a B grader at best at AFL level, which is why I'm confused so many people around here are so keen on him. Do we really want a slow, one-dimensional B grade inside mid who goes at 45% disposal efficiency?? For a side with a heap of outside run but no inside bulls he'd be a great fit and likely a steal, but he just doesn't fit our list at all and I'm surprised so many want him if they can't deal with Gibbo's kicking (which is better than Clarke's ever will be imo).

Atley on the other hand is a much more interesting prospect, he's a better kick for one, and has some explosive pace that he uses to break away from stoppages. He is a natural leader at every level his played in, super consistent, and much more versatile than Clarke with the ability to play across half-forward/half-back. While he doesn't have any standout traits he is certainly a more well-rounded prospect, doesn't have any glaring weaknesses like Clarke and would fit our list much better imo

 

[roos_fanatic08]

We'd be stupid not to take Brodie he is easily a top 5 pick in my opinion. Been exceptionally consistent over the past 2 years.

If we bid on Perryman I personally hope GWS match his bid. Little bit slow and not very athletic. He has good skills but I think they have been overrated by most of the footy media and BF.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Only a brief segment - Brett mentions Brodie/Florent/Gallucci at our first pick and Cox/Ryan at our second.

Getting Brodie, Cedric Cox and Luke Ryan with our first three picks would be a stunning result, but feel the latter two will go 18-25.

 

[osaka mick]

Yep absolutely.

Brodie, Scrimshaw, SPS, Florent, Perryman, Simpkin, Venebles are all good picks.

Unless we take a big reach (or a tall), I don't think we will be disappointed come draft night.

I think Brodie, Scrimshaw and SPS are in the prefered pack, Florent and Perryman in the next and Simpkin and Venebles sit in the big upside 3rd pack for me.

Where would Logue fall into your thinking if he was there, as well as the above listed?

I think a big bodied mid would be great, so personally Im hoping for Scriwshaw or Logue. ALthough, Brodie and SPS would be tantalizing, because of where they were predicted to go!!
If all of them are gone, then we take Florent, Simpkin or Venables.

Just imagine if we got a end of 1st rounder for Wells. We may well have been able to snare another of the above listed, or another potential gun. Hopefully someone in our liking falls to the 2nd and 3rd rounder. Im sure someone will slide. Last year, it was Mathison.

 

[rippersnipper]

Do we go needs or best available. Went needs (long term of course) last year with our first so will be interesting to see what happens. Out of the top 10, who has the most potential? Not who is the best now.

 

[remfan101]

Do we go needs or best available. Went needs (long term of course) last year with our first so will be interesting to see what happens. Out of the top 10, who has the most potential? Not who is the best now.

Probably SPS has the most natural talent