2016 US Presidential Election - Trump vs Clinton? - Part 1

[happy_eagle]

I heard Donald Trump wants to shut down SNL if he becomes President
Such thin skin

 

[blackcat]

News coverage is complex and requires immense consideration to report the details accurately. News services then either support, not support, or remain neutral in commentary.

the paradox is the 4th estate suffered from this tension of purpose. Were they striving to produce journalism, or were they selling media? They came down on the selling side. Trump was a boon to the media product like a war.

Correct. And I'd expect a heightened level of impact into the future. Look to the Alfred Murray building as the bench mark. The threat of attacks such as this will rise. Empowered by a dangerous (tiny ... minority) fringe. WASP jihadists, with a bone to pick. It will diminish over time but will never be eradicated. Much in the same way all hate groups plod on.

This has always been the likely outcome. Trump won't be a part of this. Not because he is opposed, but simply because he does not understand it, and can't be stuffed. He will fade into ignominy.

America has always had these fringe groups, part it is because of the dna of their culture, see: anti-vax(xers) from Byron to the north in Australia, when America has 15 times our population, there is a far greater catchment to foment their crazy(noun)
#craycray

We need blackcat in here with Betty Noir

what do you wish me to contribute Theseventhhamster

in reply to Betty Noir I slung a pm to MaddAdam and said the Andrew Ollie lecture Waleed Aly missed the fundamental shift in the 4th estate now the product and supply-demand direction has been inverted. see: Sheldon Wolin's inverted totalitarianism political theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism how this analogy works for media? well, technology has seen the product atomised and fragmented, and the product can no longer be commodified and sold at scale. Then the traditional media and old companies became entertainment production lines which are subject to economic law of demand. Ripe for a demagogue to rise: see Trump. The media could have done the job and failed to stem Trump, his entertainment value was selling media airtime for the tv studios. The obvious rebuttal is that he offered the outsider. Well Rubio was this role at the previous primary year, then he surfed the wave to the establishment for this primary run. So it is not outsider qua outsider. And Ron Paul's son Rand Paul, operated on some arbitrary exogenous locus of control, to pull stunts this last House representative four years, he was obviously trying to establish a name for himself on the national platform.

So this was not about an outsider. This was about an entertainer. panem et circenses. pantomime. theatre. spectacle. The stratified media are unable to accurately cover a presidential political campaign for a segmented population like America where the regions are so different.

 

[Jab]

Continue the discussion here in part 2

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ial-election-trump-vs-clinton-part-2.1149670/