Prediction 2017 Round 1 Starting 22

[bewsta]

B: Frost Gardiner Harwood
HB: Cutler Andrews Mayes
C: Rich Robbo Bewick
Foll: Martin D. Beams Zorko
HF: Walker Close Bell
F: Schache Hipwood Taylor
Int: Christensen Mathieson Jansen Bastinac

Constantly pushing for a spot/developing: Keays, McStay, Smith, Hammelmann, William, Freeman, Lester, Paparone, Skinner

Playing for careers: Dawson, Green, McGrath, C. Beams, Robertson, Clayton, Hanley, Eagles, Rockliff

 

[Balony_pony16]

one thing Fagan is guaranteed to bring to the team is a ZERO TOLERANCE to poor kicking. I am interested to see how guys like Bell preform and respond to a huge challenge ahead of them

 

[BigCat2]

one thing Fagan is guaranteed to bring to the team is a ZERO TOLERANCE to poor kicking. I am interested to see how guys like Bell preform and respond to a huge challenge ahead of them

Bell will be handballing an awful lot then...

 

[Big Sauce 21]

I guess he'll have to find a new job then

 

[pulpdriver]

Bell will be handballing an awful lot then...

Perfect. Win the ball, handball to someone else, gut run forward to receive the ball and absolutely no field kicking in between.

Should be Bell's modus operandi.

 

[a mayes ing]

one thing Fagan is guaranteed to bring to the team is a ZERO TOLERANCE to poor kicking. I am interested to see how guys like Bell preform and respond to a huge challenge ahead of them

Most of our team is poor at kicking so not sure how much their DE will improve over 1 off season. More about their decision making, and if their decision making is spot on, it makes it look like theey have good DE ... however we haven't got the best decision makers either.

 

[Balony_pony16]

Most of our team is poor at kicking so not sure how much their DE will improve over 1 off season. More about their decision making, and if their decision making is spot on, it makes it look like theey have good DE ... however we haven't got the best decision makers either.

we certainly have some poor kickers and the spotlight will be on a heap of them

 

[Milux]

I think our biggest issue is our best ball users are either not on the park or are unable to get the thing themselves with enough space to use it.

Daniel Rich. The ball should be in this blokes hands 20 times a game. But his inability to break tags kills us.

Dayne Beams. Has played 17/18 games for us in 2 seasons. Hardly a bust, yet.

Tom Rockliff. Gets plenty of it. Uses it exceptionally. Our best and most consistent midfielder. His extracurricular activities has hurt his reputation and hopefully his pride. IMO we should retain him. Hope the change of personel above him and captaincy stripped he can take the right path and resurrect his elite footballing profile.

One could argue if these 3 leaders get it right one season we will fair better in games.

 

[John_Proctor]

^ agree on that. Having some sort of defensive structure would help too.

 

[jackess]

I'm still enjoying the afterglow from yesterday's win so let's kick off predictions for next years team.

2 list management decisions I'll assume are Merrett retires and Green requests a trade.

B: Gardiner Andrews Harwood
HB: Mayes McStay Cutler
C: Zorko D Beams Rich
HF: Hanley Close Bastinac
FF: Walker Schache Taylor
Ruck: Martin Rockliff Robinson
Bench: Christensen, Paparone, Bell, Bewick

Not too sure on the last 2 spots on the bench. Both could easily be overtaken by Mathison, Keays, etc.

B: Gardiner Frost Harwood
HB: McStay Andrews Cutler
C: Bastinac D Beams Rich
HF: Zorko Close Taylor
FF: Walker Schache Bewick
Ruck: Martin Rockliff Robinson
Bench: Christensen, Paparone, Bell, Mayes

In: Frost
Out: Hanley

 

[winged1]

B: Gardiner Frost Harwood
HB: McStay Andrews Cutler
C: Bastinac D Beams Rich
HF: Zorko Close Taylor
FF: Walker Schache Bewick
Ruck: Martin Rockliff Robinson
Bench: Christensen, Paparone, Bell, Mayes

In: Frost
Out: Hanley

Keays?

 

[jackess]

Keays?

Reserves. Would have Matho ahead of him anyway.

 

[winged1]

Reserves. Would have Matho ahead of him anyway.

played 16 games in his first year, think he would be there ahead of some of the more experienced players.

 

[jackess]

played 16 games in his first year, think he would be there ahead of some of the more experienced players.

He wouldn't have played that many if they weren't injured.

 

[WWSD]

Brisbane's 2017 Best 22

B: Rueben William, Jack Frost, Matthew Hammelmann

HB: Tom Cutler, Harris Andrews, Daniel Rich

C: Ryan Bastinac, Dayne Beans, Sam Mayes

HF: Mitch Robinson, Daniel McStay, Rohan Bewick

F: Lewis Taylor, Josh Schache, Allen Christensen

R: Stefan Martin, Tom Rockliff, Dayne Zorko

INT: Bean Keays, Tom Bell, Marco Paparone, Eric Hipwood


2017 Predictions
Leading Goal Kicker: Daniel McStay (35)
Most Improved player(s): Matthew Hammelmann, Ben Keays, Marco Paparone
All-Australian contenders: Tom Rockliff, Dayne Zorko, Stefan Martin
Club Best & Fairest winner: Dayne Beams
Most Promising player: Tom Cutler

 

[a mayes ing]

Brisbane's 2017 Best 22

B: Rueben William, Jack Frost, Matthew Hammelmann

HB: Tom Cutler, Harris Andrews, Daniel Rich

C: Ryan Bastinac, Dayne Beans, Sam Mayes

HF: Mitch Robinson, Daniel McStay, Rohan Bewick

F: Lewis Taylor, Josh Schache, Allen Christensen

R: Stefan Martin, Tom Rockliff, Dayne Zorko

INT: Bean Keays, Tom Bell, Marco Paparone, Eric Hipwood


2017 Predictions
Leading Goal Kicker: Daniel McStay (35)
Most Improved player(s): Matthew Hammelmann, Ben Keays, Marco Paparone
All-Australian contenders: Tom Rockliff, Dayne Zorko, Stefan Martin
Club Best & Fairest winner: Dayne Beams
Most Promising player: Tom Cutler

Not bad, but l would get rid of Hammelman and put McStay in his position and Close in McStay's position.

Iwould also have Mathieson in somewhere, maybe inplace of Keayes.

 

[bewsta]

Not bad, but l would get rid of Hammelman and put McStay in his position and Close in McStay's position.

Iwould also have Mathieson in somewhere, maybe inplace of Keayes.

McStay too lazy imo. At least Hammer has a go, and he seemed to fit in really nicely near the end of the season.

 

[jackess]

McStay too lazy imo. At least Hammer has a go, and he seemed to fit in really nicely near the end of the season.

IIRC Hammer polled extremely poorly in the B&F. Wouldn't have got near the team if we had anybody else available.

 

[a mayes ing]

McStay too lazy imo. At least Hammer has a go, and he seemed to fit in really nicely near the end of the season.

More than half the team was too lazy. Hopefully Fagan and co can whip out that laziiness in everyone. If he gets rid of his laziness then he really adds something to the team.

 

[Dalions]

Not bad, but l would get rid of Hammelman and put McStay in his position and Close in McStay's position.

Iwould also have Mathieson in somewhere, maybe inplace of Keayes.

Probably wouldn't have Reuben as starting 22 next year either.

 

[John_Proctor]

This is a bit further thinking on my post in this thread page 2 I think. I looked in the contract status thread and looked at length of players contracts. I've also ranked players as I see it for being ranked on the basis of the 1's are in big trouble. the 2's are borderline and 3's are safe for our list after next season. The big troubles are all in the last year of their contract given the need to turnover the list from year to year they would naturally be the most 'in the gun' next season. I've got others in borderline who are in the last year for example I see 1 of Close or Freeman being traded/delisted after next season (both in final year of contract).

The ones that really interest me are the 7 players I have 'borderline' who have contracts not just for 2017 but 2018. Really shows that we've had to overpay in years to get/keep players at the club.
Examples:
- Signing Jaden McGrath pick 73 in the 2014 draft to a deal tying him to the club for 4 total years off the back of one pre-season and a few 'competitive games' early 2015 is crazy.
- Signing Bewick and Lester journeymen mid 20's players to 2 year extensions mid season was a stretch.
- Giving Bastinac a 4 year deal to bribe him up here is a big stretch. (noting that I'm probably harsh calling him borderline after next season but I think after 2018 we might be regretting having him contracted for 2019).

The others (Dawson/Paparone) maybe have shown enough to warrant that extra year. but to me we have 15 players who are playing for their Lions careers next season and not enough flexibility in which ones we can delist. I doubt any of those players would attract any interest from opposition clubs aside from Rocky, Close, Freeman.

On the flip side. McStay, Cutler, Schache, Keays out of contract are the missions for next year (and I don't expect too many issues wiht Fagnob in charge)

quoted to save space.

1 Jarrad Jansen - 2017
1 Claye Beams - 2017
1 Nicholas Robertson - 2017
1 Josh Clayton - 2017
1 Ryan Harwood - 2017
2 Marco Paparone - 2018
2 Liam Dawson - 2018
2 Jaden McGrath - 2018
2 Michael Close - 2017
2 Jonathan Freeman - 2017
2 Ryan Lester - 2018
2 Tom Rockliff - 2017
2 Ryan Bastinac - 2019
2 Tom Bell - 2018
2 Rohan Bewick - 2018
3 Ben Keays - 2017
3 Daniel Rich - 2021
3 Stefan Martin - 2019
3 Josh Walker - 2018
3 Dayne Zorko - 2020
3 Josh Schache - 2017
3 Daniel McStay - 2017
3 Tom Cutler - 2017
3 Darcy Gardiner - 2019
3 Lewis Taylor - 2019
3 Allen Christensen - 2018
3 Eric Hipwood - 2019
3 Harris Andrews - 2018
3 Sam Mayes - 2019
3 Rhys Mathieson - 2019
3 Sam Skinner - 2018
3 Mitch Robinson - 2018
3 Dayne Beams - 2019

 

[Len S]

McStay too lazy imo. At least Hammer has a go, and he seemed to fit in really nicely near the end of the season.

Not lazy..just lacking confidence and playing in one of the worst coached teams ever, not my opinion alone , se ior list management and recruitment advice.

 

[Leemas]

Half our best 22 wouldn't get a game ahead of any other club.

 

[dlanod]

Half our best 22 wouldn't get a game ahead of any other club.

Nice hyperbole, but I reckon you'd struggle to actually name the 11 players who wouldn't get a game at any other club. There's plenty that won't get a game at every other club and only a couple that would get a game at every other club, but both are very different prospects.

 

[Leemas]

Nice hyperbole, but I reckon you'd struggle to actually name the 11 players who wouldn't get a game at any other club. There's plenty that won't get a game at every other club and only a couple that would get a game at every other club, but both are very different prospects.

Hammer, William, Gardiner, walker, Bastinac, shache, Keays, hipwood, bewick, lester, Clayton, dawson, n.robbo, Jansen, Taylor.

There's 15 who were all best 22 at one point or another during the year. I cannot see any of these guys breaking into any other team based on their performances this year. Not counting Essendon obviously.