List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 3

[BangersAndMash]

Smoke and Mirrors - The Magician

Umm, you mean we're getting Travis Cloke?

 

[AFLOnline]

Am I a bad supporter for not feeling as horrible about Roo and Joeys retirements as compared to other past greats? Absolute legends of the clubs no doubt about it, but I think it's a good time for both the club and the player to part ways and think about life after them.

I remember feeling a lot more empty when Harvey and Hayes retired. I still feel they had a lot more to offer as both players and exited the game a season or two too early.

I dunno, just my 2 cents anyway I'm sure no one really gives a **** haha

 

[Ceanag]

Do we need to get the "it's happening" gifs going again?

Saw this posted in Knightmare's thread on the phantom draft board yesterday and another post he made from the WB board:




Hey mate just to clarify you spoke to someone in Kelly's family, not someone from your own from East Brighton?

Saints are hopeful we get Kelly, North are certain he is going to them and just read on Carlton board he is a 95% certainty to go there..... All these claims from "respected" ITKs on their various boards.
How can all of them be right ???

 

[Yawkey way]

Fisher was a standout, but we haven't done too badly in recent years. Not outright superstars, but OK.

Sinclair, Gwilt, Geary, even Stuv was 37(?).

Mind you, what we haven't plucked from the draft, we have traded in for nix like Robbo.

Yes we have done well for years and the young bloke Marshall might to another one.

I would argue that it's been our early picks over the years that have let us down although we have improved there as well but there were some shockers.

 

[Yawkey way]

Exhausting isnt it

Get more exercise and take some zinc.

 

[Ekomaira]

if we do give up 7 & 8 for Kelly, I think it's overs. Would we get something else back? A pick in the teens? Another player?

we could hope to get a 2nd rounder back at best I reckon. probably wouldn't though

 

[AFLOnline]

Saints are hopeful we get Kelly, North are certain he is going to them and just read on Carlton board he is a 95% certainty to go there..... All these claims from "respected" ITKs on their various boards.
How can all of them be right ???

Hint: they aren't.

 

[Butterfish]

Am I a bad supporter for not feeling as horrible about Roo and Joeys retirements as compared to other past greats? Absolute legends of the clubs no doubt about it, but I think it's a good time for both the club and the player to part ways and think about life after them.

I remember feeling a lot more empty when Harvey and Hayes retired. I still feel they had a lot more to offer as both players and exited the game a season or two too early.

I dunno, just my 2 cents anyway I'm sure no one really gives a **** haha

Agree. Lenny had a bit still left in the tank, rooey particularly and joey to an extent were running on fumes

 

[Significant]

Smoke and Mirrors - The Magician

 

[The Punter]

We should be aiming to get Kelly for pick 7 (GWS if after an academy kid will end up picking before us anyway) and next year's 1st.

 

[Yawkey way]

Smoke and Mirrors - The Magician

Come on Connors spill the beans.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Wouldn't get too excited. Seen this guy post on the Doggies Trade Thread on their board and he gets roasted. Fair enough too since he posts utter crap 99% of the time.

It's not happening gif?

 

[Yawkey way]

No you're not.

I got emotional when Roo retired but it definitely was time.

For Joey I feel bad saying it but I wouldn't have minded if he hung the boots up last year. He was a gun and I loved him cause he was a Sainter but he never reached Hayes, Roo, NDS level of love from me

Put 100 on him to coach us one day.

 

[George]

As predicted Joey leaves the game...great career!!

Sav Lones Holmes Coughlan and NOK have also been advised of their futures today.

 

[plugger66]

With Joey now retiring on top of Roo and Dempster I would love to know how the hell we get to 95% of the salary cap if we don't get a star. We have lost close 1.7 million off the cap and there was also a 20% increase in the cap which wont go to certain players on certain contracts. That would make it over 2.5 million we have to give to players who are currently on the list. Many of those contracts will need to be redone to front load and whilst that sounds good I'm not sure we should be doing that with too many players.

There is a downside to front loading and that is a player with 8 years experience who would be a RFA will become a FA if he isn't in the top 25% of our players. That could happen with front loading. The other downside is players could be earning stuff all in the final year of the contract and even though they have been paid well initially may be a little pissed off with the wage they will be getting. Problem is solved if we get a star. Lets just get one.

 

[Ceanag]

Hint: they aren't.

Oh that's right ...you've already ruled Saints out of the running.

 

[plugger66]

Put 100 on him to coach us one day.

Going to be hard as I'm pretty sure he would rather the media than coaching.

 

[The Enemy Within]

Come on Connors spill the beans.

Say one thing mean another thing

 

[Quixote]

I don't really care, just deliver us one premiership and i will be happy.

Exactly. The campaigners have ONE JOB.

 

[plugger66]

As predicted Joey leaves the game...great career!!

Sav Lones Holmes Coughlan and NOK have also been advised of their futures today.

And it could easily be they have decided yet depending on trades. NOK, Lonie and Sav will stay. The others will be gone IMO.

 

[plugger66]

We should be aiming to get Kelly for pick 7 (GWS if after an academy kid will end up picking before us anyway) and next year's 1st.

Why not use this year especially when those who know say next years is so much better than this years.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

We should be aiming to get Kelly for pick 7 (GWS if after an academy kid will end up picking before us anyway) and next year's 1st.

I'm still hearing that IF Kelly leaves he'll be a Saint, but the noise the last week or so is that many think he's more likely to stay.
That's the deal we would put to GWS, with St Kildas 2017 second coming back. I think GWS knock that back and we settle for 7/8 for Kelly and St Kildas second. Two firsts on their own is too steep a price and I can't see Ameet paying that for Kelly alone under any circumstances.

 

[RWB4life]

Why not use this year especially when those who know say next years is so much better than this years.

Take pick 6 now and an year of development or something around 14 15 next year

 

[Patty_vanda]

With Joey now retiring on top of Roo and Dempster I would love to know how the hell we get to 95% of the salary cap if we don't get a star. We have lost close 1.7 million off the cap and there was also a 20% increase in the cap which wont go to certain players on certain contracts. That would make it over 2.5 million we have to give to players who are currently on the list. Many of those contracts will need to be redone to front load and whilst that sounds good I'm not sure we should be doing that with too many players.

There is a downside to front loading and that is a player with 8 years experience who would be a RFA will become a FA if he isn't in the top 25% of our players. That could happen with front loading. The other downside is players could be earning stuff all in the final year of the contract and even though they have been paid well initially may be a little pissed off with the wage they will be getting. Problem is solved if we get a star. Lets just get one.

You don't retire 2 champions when both of them wanted to go on next year.

It's planned. The clubs freeing up cap space for a player or multiple players.

Has to be.

 

[The Punter]

Why not use this year especially when those who know say next years is so much better than this years.

Trading next years means we get a 1st rounder in this year. I don't know if we can afford to be that patient.