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Seymour Skinner said:
The issue is he'll 100% be named on the extended bench, and I don't like any of the players around the same price as him after the GC game, besides McLean who I already have.
So when Dew cuts him from the round 1 team I'll be sad.
Just gonna play it safe and grab Devon instead.
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Lambert?
 
Seymour Skinner said:
The issue is he'll 100% be named on the extended bench, and I don't like any of the players around the same price as him after the GC game, besides McLean who I already have.
So when Dew cuts him from the round 1 team I'll be sad.
Just gonna play it safe and grab Devon instead.
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I'm deep in the forward line with Devon and McLean already.
If a FWD rookie shows themselves I might spend the cash in my MIDS cos it's not looking good for Starlow.

Think he becomes an upgrade target at the end of round 10
 
Mighty_sainter said:
Petracca vs Greene/heeney I currently have both Greene and heeney but no convinced on both, can petracca avr 95+?
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Cant see Petracca averaging anywhere near 95. Will be used as a key forward mostly and the only key position forward thats averaged better than 95 is Buddy in recent times. I reckon at best he will average around low 80s which is not enough for me to be interested
 

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Young Gun #6 said:
Lambert?
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Lambo plays the first game of the week?

Reckon we'll see more of the same, similar to the second half of the year last season, but won't miss round 1 again this year that's for sure!
Might be a bit more mid time up for grabs, as it looks like Cotch will be fwd a lot more this year.
I reckon that mid time will probably go mostly to Caddy/Graham, but Lambo might get a bit.
Averaged 96 over the last 14 games, including finals, I reckon he could go at around 93-95 for the whole year.

But not for me, has the worst bye and I reckon McLean at a similar price will get longer stints in the guts.
 
shiva25 said:
Cant see Petracca averaging anywhere near 95. Will be used as a key forward mostly and the only key position forward thats averaged better than 95 is Buddy in recent times. I reckon at best he will average around low 80s which is not enough for me to be interested
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Fair enough mate, recent jlts and hype from Melbourne is he's going to break out.
 
shiva25 said:
Cant see Petracca averaging anywhere near 95. Will be used as a key forward mostly and the only key position forward thats averaged better than 95 is Buddy in recent times. I reckon at best he will average around low 80s which is not enough for me to be interested
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Petracca is not a key forward.

But hey, if you think he is, don't pick him :thumbsu:
 
Ok so I have Heeney and Billings locked in at F1 and F2.

F3 and F4 are still up for grabs in my team.

I am trying to pick 2 out of McLean, Walters, Petracca and Smith for those 2 spots.

Which 2 out of these 4 does everyone think will get the most midfield time?

Have McLean at F3 atm as he seems to be taking Dalhaus's role in the midfield now.

Walters was used mostly in the midfield last season but will that role continue this year? Last JLT he spent quite a bit of time up forward and both the Hill bros need to come back into the Freo team yet.

Petracca and Smith will both have stinks in the midfield as well as time up forward. I think Petracca has more talent though.
 
fantasyunit said:
For 1 whole game, maybe 2....what about the other 20 games? Very short term thinking which is more suited to DFS than season-long games.

Same with Waynes World banging on about the Hill brothers being out making Walters a good pick. If you pick him, it's because you think he plays mid in a full strength team, otherwise he'll go great for a month and then they'll come back and suddenly you've got a dud pick on your hands.
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Well, for one, I don't see Menegola as a dud pick in the long run. At $551 after like 25 games he's simply not a the most tantalising starting forward option when Dangerfield, Jelwood and Ablett are all potentially healthy, and there's Heeney, Billings, and a million midfielders to choose from who are cheaper (assuming I start one less premium forward for an extra midfielder instead).

But I believe Supercoach is equally about capitalising on the right short-term trends and finding value before the small window to do so closes.

The way I see it, Menegola in a Geelong team sans Dangerfield is better value than starting any random one of Walters/McLean/Dahlhaus/Sicily/Lambert. Premium forwards this year aren't exactly screaming out.

Plus, this is Supercoach, not a draft league, so I can trade Danger in when I want and dump Menegola whenever I want, it's not like I am handcuffed to him for the whole year. I feel the same way about starting O'Meara. People act like corrective trading isn't a thing, and while you don't want to plan to be making those kinds of trades the truth of it is every player is an errant elbow to the ribs/poor patch of form away from being traded, and doing so, contrary to popular belief, won't kill your entire season.
 
Judd_Magic said:
Ok so I have Heeney and Billings locked in at F1 and F2.

F3 and F4 are still up for grabs in my team.

I am trying to pick 2 out of McLean, Walters, Petracca and Smith for those 2 spots.

Which 2 out of these 4 does everyone think will get the most midfield time?

Have McLean at F3 atm as he seems to be taking Dalhaus's role in the midfield now.

Walters was used mostly in the midfield last season but will that role continue this year? Last JLT he spent quite a bit of time up forward and both the Hill bros need to come back into the Freo team yet.

Petracca and Smith will both have stinks in the midfield as well as time up forward. I think Petracca has more talent though.
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In terms of midfield time id go Mclean and Kevin Smith but im not overly confident that Smith will avg more than Walters due to the his potential of huge scoring games and Smiths still relatively unknown SC scoring prowess, I guess it all depends on our structure and if ou already have Fyfe/Neale/BRayshaw or a few Bombers in your team. Me personally, Id rather Kevin but it a bloody tough one.
 
big_bazza said:
In terms of midfield time id go Mclean and Kevin Smith but im not overly confident that Smith will avg more than Walters due to the his potential of huge scoring games and Smiths still relatively unknown SC scoring prowess, I guess it all depends on our structure and if ou already have Fyfe/Neale/BRayshaw or a few Bombers in your team. Me personally, Id rather Kevin but it a bloody tough one.
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I keep thinking Petracca is going to break out this year though.

Not sure how long Viney is out for but Petracca should get quite a bit of midfield time while he is out.

Gawn also tends to think that Petracca will spend a lot of time in the midfield this year too.

In terms of talent I think he is more talented than Devon Smith.

All points to at least a 90 average imo.
 

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Judd_Magic said:
I keep thinking Petracca is going to break out this year though.

Not sure how long Viney is out for but Petracca should get quite a bit of midfield time while he is out.

Gawn also tends to think that Petracca will spend a lot of time in the midfield this year too.

In terms of talent I think he is more talented than Devon Smith.

All points to at least a 90 average imo.
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Yeah you could well be right mate but i just think Mmith will play more mid time in a weaker bombers midfield than Petracca will in a fairly strong Dees midfield, Its more of a gut feel than anything. I'd just rather see with Petracca and he could be an early upgrade where as with Smith i think he should play predominately midfield with Essendons options up forward, especially now Stringer is there, although with Fantasia being out it might throw a little spanner in the works.

Having said that with Viney out early Petracca could easily play plenty of mid time too but i just think the demons need Petracca up fwd more especially now Brayshaw should be back in the team than the Bombers need Smith up forward, But Yeah anything could happen. Either way i think theyre both good picks.
 
Forward Rookies are scarce apart from Fritsch and maybe Fogarty. I'm not rating any cheap WCE rookie at all.

Mid-pricers or speculative picks in the fwd line are worth the gamble more than on any other line.
Petracca, DSmith, TMcLean, Sicily(who should be started in the fwd line cause of the more abundant rookie options down back) and ANB, CBrown, TBell, Christensen etc.. are worth it IMO. Even CRayner and JStephenenson and any fwd/mid will be valuable later on in trading flexibility.
 
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Marlowe said:
Well, for one, I don't see Menegola as a dud pick in the long run. At $551 after like 25 games he's simply not a the most tantalising starting forward option when Dangerfield, Jelwood and Ablett are all potentially healthy, and there's Heeney, Billings, and a million midfielders to choose from who are cheaper (assuming I start one less premium forward for an extra midfielder instead).

But I believe Supercoach is equally about capitalising on the right short-term trends and finding value before the small window to do so closes.

The way I see it, Menegola in a Geelong team sans Dangerfield is better value than starting any random one of Walters/McLean/Dahlhaus/Sicily/Lambert. Premium forwards this year aren't exactly screaming out.

Plus, this is Supercoach, not a draft league, so I can trade Danger in when I want and dump Menegola whenever I want, it's not like I am handcuffed to him for the whole year. I feel the same way about starting O'Meara. People act like corrective trading isn't a thing, and while you don't want to plan to be making those kinds of trades the truth of it is every player is an errant elbow to the ribs/poor patch of form away from being traded, and doing so, contrary to popular belief, won't kill your entire season.
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I agree with this. Nothing wrong with some corrective trades, especially if you have injury luck. In 2015 I finished top 200 but started with Leunberger, Bellchambers, Sam Fisher, Ryan Griffen and a few more duds. It can be done, so this is why it is OK to take some risks. In fact, good luck succeeding without taking a few risks.
 
Judd_Magic said:
Ok so I have Heeney and Billings locked in at F1 and F2.

F3 and F4 are still up for grabs in my team.

I am trying to pick 2 out of McLean, Walters, Petracca and Smith for those 2 spots.

Which 2 out of these 4 does everyone think will get the most midfield time?

Have McLean at F3 atm as he seems to be taking Dalhaus's role in the midfield now.

Walters was used mostly in the midfield last season but will that role continue this year? Last JLT he spent quite a bit of time up forward and both the Hill bros need to come back into the Freo team yet.

Petracca and Smith will both have stinks in the midfield as well as time up forward. I think Petracca has more talent though.
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Don’t use the word locked, there’s half a chance none of your current team will be there come R1 based on your current form.
 
Judd_Magic said:
Ok so I have Heeney and Billings locked in at F1 and F2.

F3 and F4 are still up for grabs in my team.

I am trying to pick 2 out of McLean, Walters, Petracca and Smith for those 2 spots.

Which 2 out of these 4 does everyone think will get the most midfield time?

Have McLean at F3 atm as he seems to be taking Dalhaus's role in the midfield now.

Walters was used mostly in the midfield last season but will that role continue this year? Last JLT he spent quite a bit of time up forward and both the Hill bros need to come back into the Freo team yet.

Petracca and Smith will both have stinks in the midfield as well as time up forward. I think Petracca has more talent though.
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McLean took Jongs minutes when he got injured last year. Hopefully he stays there. But Jong is back I believe.
 
Deliverance said:
McLean took Jongs minutes when he got injured last year. Hopefully he stays there. But Jong is back I believe.
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Starting to warm to McLean over Walters for my F3 position as I just relaised that Walters has the same bye as Heeney and Billings.

That would be half my forward line out that week! Ouch! Haha! :drunk::fire::fire::fire:

Walters I will bring in after his bye. Will also give me a better look at him as I want to see if he still plays mainly midfield this year. :thumbsu:
 
GRUFFY said:
Forward Rookies are scarce apart from Fritsch and maybe Fogarty. I'm not rating any cheap WCE rookie at all.

Mid-pricers or speculative picks in the fwd line are worth the gamble more than on any other line.
Petracca, DSmith, TMcLean, Sicily(who should be started in the fwd line cause of the more abundant rookie options down back) and ANB, CBrown, TBell, Christensen etc.. are worth it IMO. Even CRayner and JStephenenson and any fwd/mid will be valuable later on in trading flexibility.
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Yep, low end priced forward rookies are shit scoring wise!

Can't afford to start more than one on the ground this year imo and I'd only start Fritsch.

Someone like Bell needs to be your F5.
 
big_bazza said:
Yeah you could well be right mate but i just think Mmith will play more mid time in a weaker bombers midfield than Petracca will in a fairly strong Dees midfield, Its more of a gut feel than anything. I'd just rather see with Petracca and he could be an early upgrade where as with Smith i think he should play predominately midfield with Essendons options up forward, especially now Stringer is there, although with Fantasia being out it might throw a little spanner in the works.

Having said that with Viney out early Petracca could easily play plenty of mid time too but i just think the demons need Petracca up fwd more especially now Brayshaw should be back in the team than the Bombers need Smith up forward, But Yeah anything could happen. Either way i think theyre both good picks.
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It's doing my head in the whole Smith vs Petracca for F4 spot to be honest.

Both have the same bye too so wouldn't want to start both!

I could toss a coin I suppose or just do a wait and see on Petracca.

Whoever I pick will be the wrong one cause that's how supercoach works! LOL!
 
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