2018 Injuries and Suspensions

[pincrusher]

17 AFL teams hoping this happens

Didn't realise they were playing every other team in the comp in the next six weeks. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[dmc333]

****ing feel dirty having to that chip scabbing campaigner Lloyd into my team.

 

[Chism]

Any word on J Kennedy from the Swans yet?

Terrible week with JK / Gray and Sicily in my team.

5 trades left but that is about to be 3.

Have Geulfi / Giro and Mihocek as cover but do not want to rely on them at this stage as i need a few league wins.

 

[54Dogs]

Didn't realise they were playing every other team in the comp in the next six weeks. Thanks for the heads up.

All good, here to help . How about 14 teams, important to keep you happy. Anyone fighting for a finals spot, anyone they may play early in the finals plus Blues / Freo / Saints.

 

[jdwood]

Sicily gone for 6. At least it makes the hold/trade decision easy.

 

[Blackhawk42]

How long is Gray out for?

 

[Chism]

How long is Gray out for?

1 week Max IF he misses but it is unlikely Port play him.

Sunday game does help but i doubt they risk it.

 

[Didstar]

How long is Gray out for?

Unlikely this week. Probably play the week after imo.

 

[Test Tickle]

 

[vast]

And he deserved it too not just because it mat benefit my sc team if duman now gets a game.

Every cloud....and so forth

 

[Obese Arachnid]

I wonder what he would've got if his name was "Elite AFL Player."

 

[Andrewy]

I wonder what he would've got if his name was "Elite AFL Player."

 

[Kadog]

Deserved 4. That was just nasty and completely unnecessary.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

lol joke of an organisation the AFL

3 weeks for a tackle

 

[Andrew Birch]

lol joke of an organisation the AFL

3 weeks for a tackle

Perhaps, but that tackle was very similar to the one Gibbs laid on Gray in 2015 that also concussed him which Gibbs copped 2 weeks for. When Gray's brain turns to mush post footy career those 5 weeks served by Gibbs & Nyhais will pale into insignificance.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Perhaps, but that tackle was very similar to the one Gibbs laid on Gray in 2015 that also concussed him which Gibbs copped 2 weeks for. When Gray's brain turns to mush post footy career those 5 weeks served by Gibbs & Nyhais will pale into insignificance.

Still dont like it as it opens a can of worms.
What about the players of the pre 90s
Do they get millions in compensation as they were paid peanuts to play?

If they head down this road eventually the tackle dies. The bump is already mostly dead.
Wont be long until Jeremy Howe knocks someone out taking a hanger on their head and that will get banned too.

What we are left with is nothing but touch footy.

These guys like you and me are paid to do a job. Footy players suffer all kinds of life long effects from playing the game. That's why they get compensated for their time and their efforts.
Ive got health issues from my work. Its all part of it IMO. No one forcing them to get on the field and they have the right like a mouthguard to wear headgear for protection.

All moving a little to fast for my liking.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Still dont like it as it opens a can of worms.
What about the players of the pre 90s
Do they get millions in compensation as they were paid peanuts to play?

If they head down this road eventually the tackle dies. The bump is already mostly dead.
Wont be long until Jeremy Howe knocks someone out taking a hanger on their head and that will get banned too.

What we are left with is nothing but touch footy.

These guys like you and me are paid to do a job. Footy players suffer all kinds of life long effects from playing the game. That's why they get compensated for their time and their efforts.
Ive got health issues from my work. Its all part of it IMO. No one forcing them to get on the field and they have the right like a mouthguard to wear headgear for protection.

All moving a little to fast for my liking.

Aren't Diesel, Platten and others still in the process of claiming compensation?

I'm not saying ban the tackle or speckie mark because sometimes people get hurt and they could sue later. I believe that there needs to be strict rules in place regarding tackling and harsh punishment if you fail to execute it within the rules because of the consequences if you don't. If you have a players arm(s) pinned so they can't protect themselves and you dump them head first into the turf, whether you didn't mean to hurt them or not should be a mandatory 4 week ban IMO. It puts the onus on players to execute a tackle within the rules that are designed to minimise head injuries.

 

[Hawkboy62]

Sicily gone for 6. At least it makes the hold/trade decision easy.

Easy for me. I'm in the No Trades Remaining club. Unfortunately it sounds at least 6. Would be a great POD to have for round 23.
Mihocek looped with Murphy will have to do.

At least Ryder may be back after 2, which is better than I feared. I recruited Crossley for the byes, which didn't work out. He may be a small consolation now.

 

[Haychh]

 

[Andrew Birch]

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Aren't Diesel, Platten and others still in the process of claiming compensation?

I'm not saying ban the tackle or speckie mark because sometimes people get hurt and they could sue later. I believe that there needs to be strict rules in place regarding tackling and harsh punishment if you fail to execute it within the rules because of the consequences if you don't. If you have a players arm(s) pinned so they can't protect themselves and you dump them head first into the turf, whether you didn't mean to hurt them or not should be a mandatory 4 week ban IMO. It puts the onus on players to execute a tackle within the rules that are designed to minimise head injuries.

Yeah i agree they gotta stop the real dangerous sling tackle but 3 weeks for a mis judgement is a bit harsh.

Nic didn't pin the arms but he copped a week. The player involved wasnt strechered off either.
This is how it starts. It only ends with touch footy IMO.

It concerns me a little.
Thinking about posting puppies in protest

 

[Andrew Birch]

Yeah i agree they gotta stop the real dangerous sling tackle but 3 weeks for a mis judgement is a bit harsh.

Nic didn't pin the arms but he copped a week. The player involved wasnt strechered off either.
This is how it starts. It only ends with touch footy IMO.

It concerns me a little.
Thinking about posting puppies in protest

Nics punishment was harsh considering he didn't do anything wrong other than giving away a free kick. Puppy protest is justified.

 

[Huttabito]

Deserved 4. That was just nasty and completely unnecessary.

I'm going to have to respectively (and probably biasedly) disagree.

Nyhuis only ever was pulling him down – Gray tries to stand up and break the tackle which caused the “hop and slam” motion. Nyhuis was horizontal and couldn't have possibly lifted him up with any malice (unlike the "dirty dog" he was made out to be). Unlucky string of circumstances and if Gray dropped to his knees it would have been a perfect tackle.

I would have been happy with 2 based on result, which is what the AFL is trying to stamp out. But I honestly don't know if Nyhuis could have done anything different, as far as he was concerned Gray still had the ball and was pulling him to ground still. Possibly try and force him to fall the other way onto his free arm but these are split second decisions and probably no time to react in these situations.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

I'm going to have to respectively (and probably biasedly) disagree.

Nyhuis only ever was pulling him down – Gray tries to stand up and break the tackle which caused the “hop and slam” motion. Nyhuis was horizontal and couldn't have possibly lifted him up with any malice (unlike the "dirty dog" he was made out to be). Unlucky string of circumstances and if Gray dropped to his knees it would have been a perfect tackle.

I would have been happy with 2 based on result, which is what the AFL is trying to stamp out. But I honestly don't know if Nyhuis could have done anything different, as far as he was concerned Gray still had the ball and was pulling him to ground still. Possibly try and force him to fall the other way onto his free arm but these are split second decisions and probably no time to react in these situations.

This is exactly my view on the tackle.

You can see Robbies left leg get caught up in Nyhuis left leg.
It gets checked like a grayhound at the race track and due to Robbie already being off balance the momentum of the tackle does the rest.

See its not Nyhuis fault at all, no.
This is the work of the SC Gods

 

[JDavey]

I'm going to have to respectively (and probably biasedly) disagree.

Nyhuis only ever was pulling him down – Gray tries to stand up and break the tackle which caused the “hop and slam” motion. Nyhuis was horizontal and couldn't have possibly lifted him up with any malice (unlike the "dirty dog" he was made out to be). Unlucky string of circumstances and if Gray dropped to his knees it would have been a perfect tackle.

I would have been happy with 2 based on result, which is what the AFL is trying to stamp out. But I honestly don't know if Nyhuis could have done anything different, as far as he was concerned Gray still had the ball and was pulling him to ground still. Possibly try and force him to fall the other way onto his free arm but these are split second decisions and probably no time to react in these situations.

With all due respect Hutt this is such rubbish. Nyhuis puts his leg in front of Gray's which is what causes Gray to "hop" because it completely unbalances him as Nyhuis drives.

I'd say this happened because Nyhuis is trying to put him over the boundary line, Nyhuis could've executed a safe tackle by dragging him to the ground (by dropping to his knees in the first SS below) or not tripping Gray, instead he stepped over his body and drove him into the ground.

I also don't buy the argument that 'Nyhuis was horizontal and couldn't possibly have lifted him up" - You'll see the progression from Shot 1 to Shot 2 to Shot 3 that Nyhuis starts low with his arms and legs and finishes upright before going horizontal, initially hes putting momentum upwards while tripping which is what causes Gray to go up and over in a sling motion. FWIW I don't think Nyhuis intended to hurt him, but just made a bad choice and combined it with some poor execution.