List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 1

[Half Back Pocket]

Carlisle
Brown
Austin
Goddard
Clavarino
Gilbert
Joyce
Hickey
Longer
Marshall
Pierce
McCartin
Membrey
Bruce
Battle

Bolded could be delisted/traded...the rest are safe

 

[Half Back Pocket]

Roberton
Geary
Webster
Savage
Newnes
White
Coffield
Clark
Gilbert
Rice
Mckenzie
Paton
Langlands

Bolded coul be delisted/traded...the rest are safe

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

Would happily set a new contract record for him. Deadset superstar!

I remember talking on here in his draft year .there was a concern he was a soft c**k like his cousin and may want to go home .
Look at him now.Just goes to show you can still pick up guns outside the top 10 and if you have the right environment they stay.

 

[JJ14AU]

Have heard Adam Oxley has been tickling Saints recruiters interest. Great user of half back and out of contract this year.

 

[Impatient Saint]

Trade Lonie or Wright for him .....like for like
Goddard is getting interest from hawks & geelong ( not being shopped around by us) so value ?????? Maybe late 2nd or involved in player swap .

Interesting that Goddard has attracted interest from those two clubs as they are both good at trading and turning them into players. Be interested in what they would be prepared to offer for him?

 

[SaintSteele9]

Have heard Adam Oxley has been tickling Saints recruiters interest. Great user of half back and out of contract this year.

If there’s one thing we love on our list, it’s a half-back flanker. Rumour confirmed

 

[St Kilda Death]

I wonder how much Cripps would get offered on the open market? Surely it'd be the highest of any player in the league?

A mil a year for 10 years.
Trade price 3 first round picks for him.
Or 2 and an established good player.
(Considering lever and Treloar were worth 2)

I can't think of a player I would want more.

 

[STK2020]

Have heard Adam Oxley has been tickling Saints recruiters interest. Great user of half back and out of contract this year.

I think he is a very good footballer , unlucky but good . Dont think he fits our need tbh , we have way to many half back flankers .
How about DeGoey ? That bloke is the key to getting Lynch over the line i reckon .

 

[JJ14AU]

I think he is a very good footballer , unlucky but good . Dont think he fits our need tbh , we have way to many half back flankers .
How about DeGoey ? That bloke is the key to getting Lynch over the line i reckon .

He’s 190 and a good interceptor. Injured all last year and has Howe/Sharenburg/Langdon ahead of him right now. Can’t speak for how many intercept defenders you have on your list atm though.

 

[triggering bro]

Have heard Adam Oxley has been tickling Saints recruiters interest. Great user of half back and out of contract this year.

Confirmed troll. Trading Oxley is an ongoing joke amongst Pies fans. Don’t give the campaigner oxygen.

 

[triggering bro]

He’s 190 and a good interceptor. Injured all last year and has Howe/Sharenburg/Langdon ahead of him right now. Can’t speak for how many intercept defenders you have on your list atm though.

You’ve had your fun, now go away.

 

[triggering bro]

I wonder how much Cripps would get offered on the open market? Surely it'd be the highest of any player in the league?

10 year deal. He could be the first 15 million dollar man.

 

[joop]

If Kelly was getting 1.2/1.3m

I reckon Cripps would be offered more as he's more of a player every side would need and he needs more dosh to leave a big club like Carlton. Easily 1.5m plus to poach

Yeh I reckon it’d have to be 1.5m. He’s gonna be the best player in the league in no time.

 

[ScrappyDo]

We don’t have the picks this year to turn over large numbers so the guys that we look to lose may be higher up the pecking order than you’d first think so we stand a chance of getting quality in.

We do have the picks, coz we can access all 2019 picks too. What we have lacked is the creativity to leverage them to best effect.

 

[St BKD]

We're all randoms on an Internet forum. There's a 99.9% chance most 'inside information' on here is made up. I think he's asking a reasonable question, no need to get so worked up.

""Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do this" - Martin Luther King, Jr." - Masquerade

Hardly worked up bud. I'm just passing on Info I've heard. I have no idea how Jack would know that... but it's not made up.

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[VDS66]

General consensus has moved away from rebuilding via the draft only.

Wonder if we trade our first for a young gun or two players.

 

[STK2020]

General consensus has moved away from rebuilding via the draft only.

Wonder if we trade our first for a young gun or two players.

Im open to that depending who the player / players are .

 

[Kildonan]

General consensus has moved away from rebuilding via the draft only.

Wonder if we trade our first for a young gun or two players.

General consensus bah

That was just Paul Roos on "On the Couch" stating his opinion.

Sydney were the masters of keeping a club in contention without a rebuild - and they did it by clever trading and bringing in role players before they were needed. They kept topping up an already built team / squad. He misled viewers by stating that no club has gone the rebuild route successfully (but Hawthorn rebuilt from scratch). Roos does not take into account that St Kilda did not start with a squad capable of contending. We had the oldest list and our stars were the oldest players of the oldest list. The top up method wouldn't work. We NEEDED to rebuild. Once we have a list capable of contending (and I don't think we are far off now) we can adopt the Paul Roos philosophy of topping up preemptively, this is what Geelong are doing now, and what most clubs wish to do. The issue is becoming a destination club. We need to show the players that we wish to lure to our club that they will have a significant measure of success while there. We need to show that we are on an upward trajectory and that we are planning for sustained success. (We don't want a Bulldogs type fall from grace).

 

[gringo2011]

General consensus bah

That was just Paul Roos on "On the Couch" stating his opinion.

Sydney were the masters of keeping a club in contention without a rebuild - and they did it by clever trading and bringing in role players before they were needed. They kept topping up an already built team / squad. He misled viewers by stating that no club has gone the rebuild route successfully (but Hawthorn rebuilt from scratch). Roos does not take into account that St Kilda did not start with a squad capable of contending. We had the oldest list and our stars were the oldest players of the oldest list. The top up method wouldn't work. We NEEDED to rebuild. Once we have a list capable of contending (and I don't think we are far off now) we can adopt the Paul Roos philosophy of topping up preemptively, this is what Geelong are doing now, and what most clubs wish to do. The issue is becoming a destination club. We need to show the players that we wish to lure to our club that they will have a significant measure of success while there. We need to show that we are on an upward trajectory and that we are planning for sustained success. (We don't want a Bulldogs type fall from grace).

I think in hind sight we should have done a soft rebuild, the bottom out in an era with out priority picks was not ideal. Especially when the interstate clubs got the bulk of the first round picks in our clear out period. Looks a bit dumb now. We didn't even use that many first round picks and ended up not getting very much for our collapse. I reckon we could have done better just drafting and cherry picking while still selling memberships and sitting just outside the 8.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I think in hind sight we should have done a soft rebuild, the bottom out in an era with out priority picks was not ideal. Especially when the interstate clubs got the bulk of the first round picks in our clear out period. Looks a bit dumb now. We didn't even use that many first round picks and ended up not getting very much for our collapse. I reckon we could have done better just drafting and cherry picking while still selling memberships and sitting just outside the 8.

We didn't really have much choice on the timing and we were screwed on the SC at the time. It was a s*** sandwich. Probs should have traded Roo and Dal for 3 first round picks and kept Mcevoy and BJ or some s***. Literally, like whateves like n stuff man

 

[VDS66]

General consensus bah

That was just Paul Roos on "On the Couch" stating his opinion.

Sydney were the masters of keeping a club in contention without a rebuild - and they did it by clever trading and bringing in role players before they were needed. They kept topping up an already built team / squad. He misled viewers by stating that no club has gone the rebuild route successfully (but Hawthorn rebuilt from scratch). Roos does not take into account that St Kilda did not start with a squad capable of contending. We had the oldest list and our stars were the oldest players of the oldest list. The top up method wouldn't work. We NEEDED to rebuild. Once we have a list capable of contending (and I don't think we are far off now) we can adopt the Paul Roos philosophy of topping up preemptively, this is what Geelong are doing now, and what most clubs wish to do. The issue is becoming a destination club. We need to show the players that we wish to lure to our club that they will have a significant measure of success while there. We need to show that we are on an upward trajectory and that we are planning for sustained success. (We don't want a Bulldogs type fall from grace).

Was actually listening to Joey. Had nothing to do with us.

I tend to agree. Lookat how many teams have fully bottomed out and won a flag. Hawks did OK but they also added class players.

Have to be creative given there are no more priority picks.

If you could swap for a kid with 3 years experience and a onown quantity, why not?

 

[STK2020]

I think in hind sight we should have done a soft rebuild, the bottom out in an era with out priority picks was not ideal. Especially when the interstate clubs got the bulk of the first round picks in our clear out period. Looks a bit dumb now. We didn't even use that many first round picks and ended up not getting very much for our collapse. I reckon we could have done better just drafting and cherry picking while still selling memberships and sitting just outside the 8.

I agree 100% , thinking back we probably wouldve been a good side , kept Goddard , Dal McEvoy , went to the draft every year with our first rounders from 2012 and topped up with players like we have ....Bruce , Roberton, Brown , Stevens , Membrey ect...

 

[VDS66]

Im open to that depending who the player / players are .

Hard to say if there's any substance to the JDG rumour.

I suspect the Crows will try to force a trade for Sloane. Which I wouldn't like.

There will be a decent market for RFA's I'd imagine sp going to be interesting.

If we could trade in a potential elite then grab another mid through FA, we'd be doing well considering we don't have a second round.

Wouldn't mind a few B+ depth players to be honest, purely to give some cover for our kids if needed. But hopefully we hit our straps and won't need them.

 

[VDS66]

Might have kept us mid table for a couple of years and delayed the inevitable unless the senior players were ready for a big haircut.

The intro of the new clubs killed us.

I agree 100% , thinking back we probably wouldve been a good side , kept Goddard , Dal McEvoy , went to the draft every year with our first rounders from 2012 and topped up with players like we have ....Bruce , Roberton, Brown , Stevens , Membrey ect...

 

[STK2020]

Might have kept us mid table for a couple of years and delayed the inevitable unless the senior players were ready for a big haircut.

The intro of the new clubs killed us.

I reckon with the old boys playing we probably finish 8-12th every season from 2012 .
Salary cap issues , hopefully old boys take cut or you drop one out every year .
If you use 1st rounders every year from 2012 thats some serious talent pick range 7-12 being added every season .