List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[TheSunGod]

So you've got us taking him in the PSD?

Unless there’s a better player available, yes.
Carlton won’t use #9 on him if he goes to the ND, and he won’t last to #43. If he goes to the PSD, he needs to get past us and the Dees, who need outside skill.

 

[SandyToes]

Probably, I'm softening on it though.
Does that help the morale of the group.. I don't know.
Wish a (fair) deal was done TBH.

It's business
It's football
It will all be forgotten by March
We start winning games and he's not being asked to extract the pill from underneath guys 15kg heavier and enjoying his footy again he'll be fine

 

[OB11]

Wish we had Craig Cameron the last 5 years

How hard is it to be better than Scott Clayton - just don't do dumb shit.

It's like taking over a job from a bloke who didn't know how to turn his computer on. Making Cameron look like a golden god.

 

[kreglze]

Probably, I'm softening on it though.
Does that help the morale of the group.. I don't know.
Wish a (fair) deal was done TBH.

This is my opinion of it as well FWIW. I hope this doesn't have negative flow through the group and the AFL, but who knows.

 

[GC2015]

If we can convince Jack to re-sign for one year, does he become a restricted free agent? If he does then it's probably worth trying to make it happen knowing we have the security of a compensation pick coming back our way this time next year should he choose to leave.

 

[OB11]

This is my opinion of it as well FWIW. I hope this doesn't have negative flow through the group and the AFL, but who knows.

It looks like most of players couldn't give 2 ****s about him after being probably the only bloke not to buy in last year and playing with no effort or heart.

If you were ever going to make a stand and not have to worry about hurting the player group this is the perfect case.

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

Sign him for one year. I'm all for it.

James Brayshaw IQ = 4

 

[Choppers]

Jack has 4 choices as I see it, as he's contracted to us til 31st Oct.

If we tabled a contract to him prior to the trade period and it's still on the table, then he has til the 31st Oct to sign it and he stays at the Suns.

Or he nominates for the National Draft and takes his chances as to where he goes.

Or he nominates for the PSD and same scenario.

Or he tries to re-negotiate another contract with the Suns.

I think I'm correct in stating that.

 

[Suns Soldier]

slimy SOS thinking he had it in the bag at 7.29pm. Cameron is

 

[Camsta]

I don’t want Martin back - its a publicised lesson for future players

don’t bother “nominating” the club you want to go if they don’t want to deal a fair hand. Otherwise you get pot luck in the draft and go anywhere

we’re not the AFL’s kindergarten

 

[OB11]

He can re-sign for 1 year and he can be a free agent next year and go wherever he wants and we can get some FA compo.

Further to that we should have plenty of cap room for next year (before extensions for King & co kick in) so we can match almost any deal. Don't know if Jack will like the idea of going to the PSD knowing the place he doesn't want be at can have him under contract for 3-4 years.

 

[Damo T]

Carlton supporters and Eddie would be thinking WTF happened. One minute destination club next minute shambles.

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

Hahaha the Carlton board is amazing right now. Never seen such a meltdown in my life. They think they're getting Martin for free now too

James Brayshaw IQ = 4

 

[Kramer1]

Pick 9 + Carlton future second ~pick 30

for

Martin and pick 15

Values him at 18

That is very fair.

Our future second and third values him at pick 15/16. Even fairer.

 

[exile]

let's all make a pact not to get upset when carlton draft jack at the national draft/psd, as we would then actually lose him for nothing hahah.

 

[Jirik13]

I don’t want Martin back - its a publicised lesson for future players

don’t bother “nominating” the club you want to go if they don’t want to deal a fair hand. Otherwise you get pot luck in the draft and go anywhere

we’re not the AFL’s kindergarten

Exactly. No way I want him back. He was borderline embarrasing in the second half of the season. So we lost pick 30 or something. Who cares. We got plenty. It's a statement to other teams - don't f* with us. Pay fair price.

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

We keeping Jack.

James Brayshaw IQ = 4

 

[Supersuns]

let's all make a pact not to get upset when carlton draft jack at the national draft/psd, as we would then actually lose him for nothing hahah.

Don’t care either way, just happy we didn’t bend over and take it in a trade for once. Carlton have to now RISK us or Melbourne taking him before they can. Sends a message we aren’t pushovers

 

[Greendogg]

Exactly. No way I want him back. He was borderline embarrasing in the second half of the season. So we lost pick 20 or something. Who cares. We got plenty. It's a statement to other teams - don't f* with us.

Except if he ends up at Carlton for free, then it's statement "f#ck with us all U want".
I am very interested to see how this plays out.

 

[bigboy_wowee]

Extremely pleased we stuck fat and didnt give into bigger clubs like we would have a few years ago. Even if he still leaves I see this as a big win.

 

[Camsta]

Except if he ends up at Carlton for free, then it's statement "f#ck with us all U want".
I am very interested to see how this plays out.

Only works for Carlton cause they have pick 4 - if you were a top 8 club trying to raid us tough luck!

lesson is more for the players and managers - don’t nominate a club if you don’t have a fair trade in order

 

[Jirik13]

Except if he ends up at Carlton for free, then it's statement "f#ck with us all U want".
I am very interested to see how this plays out.

You think Melbourne will not be interested? We do have option to pick him up in PSD. Or will he last until pick 9 in ND? Martin is probably piss off with Carlton right now. Our offer was very fair. What Carlton offered is a joke. No guarantee at all he will end up with Carlton.

 

[Damo T]

Hahaha the Carlton board is amazing right now. Never seen such a meltdown in my life. They think they're getting Martin for free now too

James Brayshaw IQ = 4

Funny how most Suns supporters are happy and content tonight and Carlton supporters are well not. Tide is changing.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Sling Melbourne a 3rd rounder to take him, so delicious

 

[Supersuns]

Me on the Jack Martin trade thread right now