2019 Members Convention

[rogerjames]

My reading is KT is massively over worked, desperately trying to make the China strategy a success, spreading himself too thin in other areas and as a consequence much of the day to day stuff is suffering. I cant question KT'S passion and dedication, just think he's completely burnt out and the clubs strategic direction is floundering because of it.

LR suggested he struggles to delegate

 

[rogerjames]

Nah before he was injured, Broady was a 22 lock. He played injured for a while but when he was fit he was absolutely best 22.

Can't agree. Was a great backman but his best is past. There is not room for Hartlett and Broady in our backline imo. Both are slow. Time will tell.

 

[Steve Dore]

.... seeing our head coach being taken away from game day atrategy as a positive is nuts! If he can’t do it he shouldn’t be head coach.

I've been saying this for some time but there has always been those arguing "Ken just needs better assistants".

 

[Port85]

There’s no finely oiled machine to slot back into.

16th at rebound last year.

What were we rated for rebound from the year before? I'm not sure what my prediction would be given we spent 2017 camped in most teams forward half.

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

B: Lienert - Jonas - Broadbent

HB: Hartlett - Howard - Burton

Houston on the bench

Done

Lol yeah right so Clurey plays magpies ?


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[rogerjames]

B: Lienert - Jonas - Broadbent

HB: Hartlett - Howard - Burton

Houston on the bench

Done

TOO SLOW

 

[Macca19]

It was a good day and some really good speakers. Last year was a lot more detailed. A lot. I'm thinking maybe the feedback they got last year was that it was too detailed, maybe some found it a bit boring, so they dumbed it down a bit.

Best speakers:
- I thought David Steventon gave one of the best speeches on mindfulness. Found it real interesting
- Chris Davies and Michael Voss were excellent. Chris in particular on the ins and outs of soft caps and where we distribute the funds
- The 3 high performance speakers were great, especially Stuart Graham.
- Thought the most interesting talk of the day was Jason Cripps and Geoff Parker, but I love that shit
- Monty was very good.


Really didn't like Bassett and Cornes' talk on the forward line. Maybe as some other speakers were going over time they felt they had to rush through it, but thought it was incredibly thin on information. Bassett has an arrogance about him that I just can't warm to.

KT...well it was better than last years speech, thats for sure. I still want more though. Where do we sit financially? What tangible effect has China had on our business? What impact did the failure to win a 2nd major sponsor last year have on the club? What will the Port Club redevelopment actually look like? What is our relationship like with the media? The AFL? The SANFL?

And yeah. I reckon its 99.99% certain we are getting co-captains.

Will I go again next year? Probably. I love this stuff.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

It was a good day and some really good speakers. Last year was a lot more detailed. A lot. I'm thinking maybe the feedback they got last year was that it was too detailed, maybe some found it a bit boring, so they dumbed it down a bit.

Best speakers:
- I thought David Steventon gave one of the best speeches on mindfulness. Found it real interesting
- Chris Davies and Michael Voss were excellent. Chris in particular on the ins and outs of soft caps and where we distribute the funds
- The 3 high performance speakers were great, especially Stuart Graham.
- Thought the most interesting talk of the day was Jason Cripps and Geoff Parker, but I love that shit
- Monty was very good.


Really didn't like Bassett and Cornes' talk on the forward line. Maybe as some other speakers were going over time they felt they had to rush through it, but thought it was incredibly thin on information. Bassett has an arrogance about him that I just can't warm to.

KT...well it was better than last years speech, thats for sure. I still want more though. Where do we sit financially? What tangible effect has China had on our business? What impact did the failure to win a 2nd major sponsor last year have on the club? What will the Port Club redevelopment actually look like? What is our relationship like with the media? The AFL? The SANFL?

And yeah. I reckon its 99.99% certain we are getting co-captains.

Will I go again next year? Probably. I love this stuff.

It was wierd how they kept apologising for it being "too detailed".

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[Port85]

Yeah what's the go with the forward line? From the reporting (very good, thank you everyone who took the time to write something, its amazing!) - so far what I understand to be different from our forward line last year is:

1. Ebert's in it because he's fit
2. ?????
3. Profit

Ok that's being facetious, but sounds like we're aiming for goals out the back?

 

[Jonts]

Also - Schofield said he didn’t care how the players moved the ball forward...corridor, wing, boundary...as long as they made good decisions and played what was in front of them.

By default that ends up with you playing Collingwood 2010 football, hugging the boundary until the half mark and trying to make inroads in your f50 by hitting up big marking targets.
As teams will protect the corridor, so your best option becomes over the top of the zone in the corridor (hard to do ) or play the percentages and go wide

 

[DaTBird187]

Geez, between yesterday's largely flat reporting of the intraclub trial and today's of the convention, it doesn't seem like there is much cause for hope or hype around. I really would like Janus to be right about us this year.

Take it with a pinch of salt. The people who post here the most are all a bunch of miserable campaigners.

 

[Janus]

By default that ends up with you playing Collingwood 2010 football, hugging the boundary until the half mark and trying to make inroads in your f50 by hitting up big marking targets.
As teams will protect the corridor, so your best option becomes over the top of the zone in the corridor (hard to do ) or play the percentages and go wide

Nah, they showed vision were Amon rolled out to the wing and dragged players with him which allowed Boak to turn inside.

Because of the desire most clubs have to win the ball back early it creates opportunity, especially with speed. Collingwood played the way they did because they had a bunch of slow players who needed help with defence.

 

[portly]

So how do I go about getting a refund for my membership? I seriously can't be assed with this club atm.

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Please allow me to accentuate the positive.

There wasn't a bad speaker there, though KT could have chosen a different message on which to end. And be positive that the gamestyle will be much improved this year.

I am very confident that this year will be much better than the last three, at least in entertainment value.

 

[Coobk001]

It was wierd how they kept apologising for it being "too detailed".

Glad I wasn't the only one that thought that.

From my perspective, to spend an entire day at a conference, spending $100, I want to hear and see things and details that are detailed, deep and inner sanctum stuff. The detail from last year was ok, but they really needed to go deeper, not the reverse.

 

[Steve Dore]

So how do I go about getting a refund for my membership? I seriously can't be assed with this club atm.

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See ya, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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[PAFC27]

Bizarre that there was no talk of China after having pamphlets handed out at the gate on Friday afternoon about it.

Also can't help but think that this whole co-captains thing is a repeat of the Wingard trade. Leak the information, let Port fans chew on it for awhile until they come to terms, then pull the trigger.

 

[Iwish]

LR suggested he struggles to delegate

If he doesnt delegate enough then he would be doing too much himself and is another reason he looks tired and burnt out. With our china stuff he probably has more on his plate than other afl ceos. He needs to be honest with himself and work out an exit strategy if he cant go on much longer. I too think he will leave first. All 3 k's might be gone within 2 years which will be good to get some freshness in these important positions. The new assistants is a good fresh start.once the 3 k's move on you will see a geniune enthusiasm return to the club and a new era start pity it cant happen sooner

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Question for those who attended the convention.

What were your thoughts about the substance of what Schofield said, more so than his delivery?? In the WAFL, he had 6 seasons as head coach and went 8th, Flag, Flag, GF lost to Freo's B in Peel Thunder, GF lost to Freo's B in Peel Thunder and Flags in 2018 for the Colts, Reserves and A grade won the flags and A's were the first A grade WAFL team undefeated team since 1946. He had been full time for several years and like Basset did at Norwood he had full control of the football program down to u/14 level.

Did people get the sense that he has a strong holistic football strategy, some decent news ideas, or did he rigidly stick to his principle area??

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Question for those who attended the convention.

What were your thoughts about the substance of what Schofield said, more so than his delivery?? In the WAFL, he had 6 seasons as head coach and went 8th, Flag, Flag, GF lost to Freo's B in Peel Thunder, GF lost to Freo's B in Peel Thunder and Flags in 2018 for the Colts, Reserves and A grade won the flags and A's were the first A grade WAFL team undefeated team since 1946. He had been full time for several years and like Basset did at Norwood he had full control of the football program down to u/14 level.

Did people get the sense that he has a strong holistic football strategy, some decent news ideas, or did he rigidly stick to his principle area??

The thing with Schofield it is hard to judge.

His attacking plan is for us to 'play it so we see it' and 'attack on instinct'

Our plan seems to be to defend with strategy but attack with freedom.

It isnt really something that can be shown at a forum like that so it will all depend on how well he can coach the players to take the right option and keep attacking rather than getting bullied by the defence.

He didn't really give us anything about how we will structure up.

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[Arsene Wenger]

Question for those who attended the convention.

What were your thoughts about the substance of what Schofield said, more so than his delivery?? In the WAFL, he had 6 seasons as head coach and went 8th, Flag, Flag, GF lost to Freo's B in Peel Thunder, GF lost to Freo's B in Peel Thunder and Flags in 2018 for the Colts, Reserves and A grade won the flags and A's were the first A grade WAFL team undefeated team since 1946. He had been full time for several years and like Basset did at Norwood he had full control of the football program down to u/14 level.

Did people get the sense that he has a strong holistic football strategy, some decent news ideas, or did he rigidly stick to his principle area??

Schoey stuck to his midfield brief for the most part. He did speak holistically about the concept of “play what you see” and the idea that yes, corridor is preferred but if it’s not on don’t do it for the sake of it.

He actually delegated a fair bit of his allocated time to Scott Thompson to talk about inside stoppage work. I liked that he trusts his peers to take charge. To me, that was a small sign that he is a leader and potential head coach.


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[No21sTightManPerm]

Yeah, I think Monty and Thommo gave us the most insight, but the others, even though their talks were fairly high-level, still came across as though they have good plans which they are smart enough to get across to their lines, unlike, say, Lade from last year.

I agree with Macca about Bassett being a bit too smug, especially after Monty made it clear that the defence needs improvements (which he diplomatically called tweaks) and it was shown that we were 18th and 17th in markers that came under Bassett’s responsibility. You do get the feeling that he’s got a great football brain though, so hopefully the message is a bit simpler and easier to get across to the forwards, although hopefully not as simple as: “bE mORE liKe JOsH JeNKinS” (it’s not).

Another thing I was glad they picked up was that we rushed kicks to nowhere out of stoppages a massive 71% of the time - topping the league. Looking forward to seeing better decision making this season.

They really do see everything, which is encouraging (even every training session is videoed from above). They just need to get the message implemented on game day.

Voss was great btw. I do think he and Kenny are more suited to overseeing roles. I’m pretty comfortable about the coaching set up this season, provided the head coach can keep the message from the lines consistent. You do get the feeling (gut feel only) that Schofield’s our head coach in waiting.

I also agree on KT. He was one that needed to get into details and really let us know what’s happening commercially. You get the feeling that he’s the most constrained in what he can actually say, but he must have been able to do more. He’s a fantastic speaker in terms of delivery and you can see he works farken hard for the club and is very passionate about it though. He’s a good one, and we all get the message that the landscape’s changing, but I think he needed some better content to end off on a high-note.

 

[elpirate]

I went back to my post from the convention last year.

The only thing I said was that Voss explained shape the way I was talking about. At no time did I say we were going to play the way I’ve advocated we play. I didn’t even say it would work...the biggest amount of praise I gave was that the club was in good hands - which had nothing to do with the tactics and more to do with the analysis of what they were attempting to do.

Haha thought you might do something like that

C'mon Janus, you have made multiple posts, even threads that endorse a particular way of playing that you subscribe to, declaring a certain outcome.

You would even decipher press conferences and comments said by coaching to reveal cryptic messages that coincidentally suited your narrative.

Many weeks last year we heard from you just before the weekends game that "This will be the week they do it" only to hear the week after an excuse as of to why it didn't unfold as you predicted.

Maybe give declaration of certainty a bit of a rest and sit back and watch it unfold, particularly when talking about the club's messages vs reality.

You don't have to be seen as the BF prophet.

 

[Janus]

Haha thought you might do something like that

C'mon Janus, you have made multiple posts, even threads that endorse a particular way of playing that you subscribe to, declaring a certain outcome.

You would even decipher press conferences and comments said by coaching to reveal cryptic messages that coincidentally suited your narrative.

Many weeks last year we heard from you just before the weekends game that "This will be the week they do it" only to hear the week after an excuse as of to why it didn't unfold as you predicted.

Maybe give declaration of certainty a bit of a rest and sit back and watch it unfold, particularly when talking about the club's messages vs reality.

You don't have to be seen as the BF prophet.

The only certainty I’m expressing is that Montgomery is advocating exactly the style of defence - defending to attack, or counter-pressing - that I’ve wanted to see for awhile. The whole concept of the players working to get the ball back as quickly as possible is what I believe in 100%.

If it doesn’t work...then I’ll not only say I was wrong about Ken, but about everything. You can’t get much fairer than that.

I’m not predicting premierships. I’m just predicting something you’ve never seen before. It might take a year to get it right...but it will be right.

The system is the solution.

 

[VineValerian]

Bizarre that there was no talk of China after having pamphlets handed out at the gate on Friday afternoon about it.

Also can't help but think that this whole co-captains thing is a repeat of the Wingard trade. Leak the information, let Port fans chew on it for awhile until they come to terms, then pull the trigger.

Yup.
Just a "softening up" process for us poor mugs who pay the dosh to support our club.

 

[Powerstufff]

LR suggested he* struggles to delegate

No, I won't have it! I'm sure I saw a photo of someone else trolleying ice around at this year's Family Day.

* KT