Teams 2019 My RDT Team: H&A

[Bandicoot]

Smith, Zerrett, Heppell yes only played limited minutes but we know their roles won't change

But a lot of talk all preseason around McGrath getting more midfield time, wouldn't surprise me if he goes to a wing or something

Think tactically I'm happy to pay a bit more for him and slot him in at D4 instead of a Smith, Roberton, Williams etc, particularly if expensive rookies like Walsh, Setterfield, Hately etc look like scoring well in other positions, so the needs to go deep in midfield and up forward aren't as high

Based on last night's kick ins, it's obvious that 90% of then will be taken beyond the square. I feel that Smith will take the majority of Adelaide's kick ins raising his value dramatically.

 

[go you pups]

Based on last night's kick ins, it's obvious that 90% of then will be taken beyond the square. I feel that Smith will take the majority of Adelaide's kick ins raising his value dramatically.

Smith still on the radar here, moreso than Williams because of two things

Cheaper

And

Heath Shaw


Finlayson could also take some if he works his way back into the team

I guess with Smith, can he average as much as say a Witherden type or close to? That's the thing here, if I feel he can then he's a no brainer.

 

[Tex Danger]

Smith still on the radar here, moreso than Williams because of two things

Cheaper

And

Heath Shaw


Finlayson could also take some if he works his way back into the team

I guess with Smith, can he average as much as say a Witherden type or close to? That's the thing here, if I feel he can then he's a no brainer.

I agree re SMith
Williams really not even in my RDT radar but locked in AF.
I feel a lot who play both (especially more AF focussed people) will lock him in both without really thinking about it. He is clearly great AF value but less so RDT (still value). Many people that assumption of his lock will just transfer across

 

[go you pups]

I agree re SMith
Williams really not even in my RDT radar but locked in AF.
I feel a lot who play both (especially more AF focussed people) will lock him in both without really thinking about it. He is clearly great AF value but less so RDT (still value). Many people that assumption of his lock will just transfer across

I think for most of preseason I've had Smith and Williams high on my radar, but they'll likely score well each in supercoach so perhaps my thinking was there a bit too much

Roberton coming back is interesting too, but feel too many midpricers could be a trap

Feel Laird, Whitfield and Lloyd are the best defenders, but struggling to pick all due to cost. Sicily will go ok but feel he's an upgrade target in DT rather than a starting option in SC due to being an intercept/high metres gained type. Simpson could be up there again but he's getting on and might decline. So yeah, feel Witherden is next best then, and out of these options, Smith is probably most similar to him in style, but Smith is more of a linebreaker.

 

[Bandicoot]

I think for most of preseason I've had Smith and Williams high on my radar, but they'll likely score well each in supercoach so perhaps my thinking was there a bit too much

Roberton coming back is interesting too, but feel too many midpricers could be a trap

Feel Laird, Whitfield and Lloyd are the best defenders, but struggling to pick all due to cost. Sicily will go ok but feel he's an upgrade target in DT rather than a starting option in SC due to being an intercept/high metres gained type. Simpson could be up there again but he's getting on and might decline. So yeah, feel Witherden is next best then, and out of these options, Smith is probably most similar to him in style, but Smith is more of a linebreaker.

I'm starting with Lloyd, Sicily, Witherden and Smith as I believe all 4 will benefit greatly from the new kick in rule. I feel Laird will struggle to maintain last year's figures as he will no longer receive those chip kick-in marks that he got so many of last year. I still expect him to be in my side by year's end but I will get him later a lot cheaper than his starting price. Whitfield is also an upgrade target.

 

[go you pups]

I'm starting with Lloyd, Sicily, Witherden and Smith as I believe all 4 will benefit greatly from the new kick in rule. I feel Laird will struggle to maintain last year's figures as he will no longer receive those chip kick-in marks that he got so many of last year. I still expect him to be in my side by year's end but I will get him later a lot cheaper than his starting price. Whitfield is also an upgrade target.

Whitfield is in my team as GWS lost a lot of midfield depth last season, feel he'll go back to a wing and seagull with Taranto going into the guts full time (feel Taranto will be a 2015 type of Neale pick, high ceiling but inconsistent) and Williams and Kennedy will replace Whitfield down back

Witherden is in due to cost currently but if I feel Smith goes close to him he'll either replace Witherden or McGrath

Laird has scored well with and without Smith, but yeah, not sure to pick him or Lloyd atm.

 

[Bandicoot]

The only spot I am really struggling to fill atm is F3. Currently have Gresham there leaving me with $180K in the bank. This will allow me plenty of options come conclusion of round 2 with final changes before price increases.
Have considered Mundy as he will most likely go back to a full mid field role and even Billings for the same reason. (I can see pups falling off his chair reading this) .
I think it will end up being one of these three.
Currently have Danger and Heeney as F1 & 2 with Worpel as F4.

 

[Bandicoot]

Whitfield is in my team as GWS lost a lot of midfield depth last season, feel he'll go back to a wing and seagull with Taranto going into the guts full time (feel Taranto will be a 2015 type of Neale pick, high ceiling but inconsistent) and Williams and Kennedy will replace Whitfield down back

Witherden is in due to cost currently but if I feel Smith goes close to him he'll either replace Witherden or McGrath

Laird has scored well with and without Smith, but yeah, not sure to pick him or Lloyd atm.

I agree that he has scored well with and without him but my issue with Laird is not that Smith has returned but the lack of cheap +6s he will not get this year due to the new kick in rule. Only once last night was there a short kick in to the pocket.

 

[go you pups]

I agree that he has scored well with and without him but my issue with Laird is not that Smith has returned but the lack of cheap +6s he will not get this year due to the new kick in rule. Only once last night was there a short kick in to the pocket.

Fair enough

Are you applying the Macrae bottoming out rule to Laird here? I definitely agree with the Macrae theory and will only pick him if I feel there's a lack of midfield options, but currently we have a few, even with Adams out. So yeah, hopefully he bottoms out, but it's a steep price to start with and I feel he's a consistent Pendlebury 105-110 type of scorer, can't see him going 120+

If hypothetically Laird falls under 700k before the byes then that'd be great and I'd spend money elsewhere, but he was very hard to get in last year before his injury around the byes, think he tonned up 13-14 times which is huge for a defender, that's a premium midfielder type of rate. Feel he's a safe starting pick due to his scoring history, just albeit maybe a bit high on the high side, but nothing like Macrae

 

[go you pups]

The only spot I am really struggling to fill atm is F3. Currently have Gresham there leaving me with $180K in the bank. This will allow me plenty of options come conclusion of round 2 with final changes before price increases.
Have considered Mundy as he will most likely go back to a full mid field role and even Billings for the same reason. (I can see pups falling off his chair reading this) .
I think it will end up being one of these three.
Currently have Danger and Heeney as F1 & 2 with Worpel as F4.

Worpel is interesting, the forward DPP breakouter like McGrath down back (Weller maybe too). I think the only thing that puts me off on him is the unknown as he's only played like 10 games and there's the chance he may start fast but fade and not be good enough come seasons end, if he had say 30 under his belt then there's a bigger sample size to look at. Feel McGrath as the breakout DPPer is more likely due to his history of scoring 70-75 averages straight up, feel he can go 85-95 if he gets a wing type of role.

Mate, I reckon Bradkli can't stand Hack Billings more than me. I like Gresham too, but feel Lynch/Lycett is the more proven option/better tactically for that value type around 550-600k. Greene at the cheaper rate at 434k if he plays a JLT game too. Do think Gresham will go around 85-90 though, he won't be the worst pick, just that he can play forward also and be damaging there, so might get chopped and changed if St Kilda are struggling up forward (Gray/Wingard frustration etc with Port)

Petracca and Billings were nightmares last year for me, plus Zorko stunk it up first 6 weeks, trying to work out decent enough cheapish picks who will be good enough all year round for a role in the team before the byes then in the squad after the byes is crucial atm, feel Lycett could be handy like Nank was in 2017 for example.

 

[Bandicoot]

Fair enough

Are you applying the Macrae bottoming out rule to Laird here? I definitely agree with the Macrae theory and will only pick him if I feel there's a lack of midfield options, but currently we have a few, even with Adams out. So yeah, hopefully he bottoms out, but it's a steep price to start with and I feel he's a consistent Pendlebury 105-110 type of scorer, can't see him going 120+

If hypothetically Laird falls under 700k before the byes then that'd be great and I'd spend money elsewhere, but he was very hard to get in last year before his injury around the byes, think he tonned up 13-14 times which is huge for a defender, that's a premium midfielder type of rate. Feel he's a safe starting pick due to his scoring history, just albeit maybe a bit high on the high side, but nothing like Macrae

No, I look at Laird and Macrae as different cases. I feel Laird will not score as well as last year and is therefore not worthy of starting in my initial squad. He is still unlikely to have a sub 70 score any week hence, although I reckon his price will drop, it may only be by $100K. In the case of Macrae, I'm not starting with him as I am banking on him having just one real bad game - whether that be due to an early minor injury or suffering from a real heavy tag. I would then bring him in after he has bottomed out due to this one bad game. Even if he doesn't, his price will not go up on his opening price unless he averages 130 or more. So there is no value in starting with him other than his likely good captain scores.

 

[Bandicoot]

Worpel is interesting, the forward DPP breakouter like McGrath down back (Weller maybe too). I think the only thing that puts me off on him is the unknown as he's only played like 10 games and there's the chance he may start fast but fade and not be good enough come seasons end, if he had say 30 under his belt then there's a bigger sample size to look at. Feel McGrath as the breakout DPPer is more likely due to his history of scoring 70-75 averages straight up, feel he can go 85-95 if he gets a wing type of role.

Mate, I reckon Bradkli can't stand Hack Billings more than me. I like Gresham too, but feel Lynch/Lycett is the more proven option/better tactically for that value type around 550-600k. Greene at the cheaper rate at 434k if he plays a JLT game too. Do think Gresham will go around 85-90 though, he won't be the worst pick, just that he can play forward also and be damaging there, so might get chopped and changed if St Kilda are struggling up forward (Gray/Wingard frustration etc with Port)

Petracca and Billings were nightmares last year for me, plus Zorko stunk it up first 6 weeks, trying to work out decent enough cheapish picks who will be good enough all year round for a role in the team before the byes then in the squad after the byes is crucial atm, feel Lycett could be handy like Nank was in 2017 for example.

There is logic in everything you say above. But isn't this the beauty of the whole comp. It's the unknown of who will play where and backing your instincts. JLT2 will tell us more about where people will play but then you still need to take into account who is NOT playing. Gresham may play as a mid in both JLT matches and we select him as a result of that but when Hanners and Steven come back he may get pushed back to that permanent forward role as Billings copped in the first half of last year. Lycett is still an unknown quantity as one never knows what Kenny will do with his players. Greene is the obvious choice but his lack of pre-season does concern me.

 

[go you pups]

There is logic in everything you say above. But isn't this the beauty of the whole comp. It's the unknown of who will play where and backing your instincts. JLT2 will tell us more about where people will play but then you still need to take into account who is NOT playing. Gresham may play as a mid in both JLT matches and we select him as a result of that but when Hanners and Steven come back he may get pushed back to that permanent forward role as Billings copped in the first half of last year. Lycett is still an unknown quantity as one never knows what Kenny will do with his players. Greene is the obvious choice but his lack of pre-season does concern me.

I'm pretty confident Lycett will do what Lobbe wasn't able to do as both he and Ryder can chop and change forward, plus Ryder will be or just turned 31 with a dodgy achilles, so I'd say Lycett was brought in specifically to help him out (remember Ken hating giving their kids a run, like Frampton and Hayes, he simply refused to last year even though they really needed a ruckman in the side when Ryder was out instead of makeshift types like Westhoff, Watts, Dixon and Howard who played the spare minutes)

Do worry about Westhoffs role though, can't see how he'll be as prolific.

Do agree on that St Kilda theory, bit like Gawn/Preuss with McDonald out

 

[Bandicoot]

Seems that the news about the new kick in rules never got to WA.

 

[Bandicoot]

Just to confuse us! Last night 90% of kick ins went beyond the square making me believe all these players taking the kick in will improve their figures dramatically. Tonight, it's been more like 90% of kick ins were still taken from within the square.
Leaves a few questions.

 

[Pea Nut]

Just to confuse us! Last night 90% of kick ins went beyond the square making me believe all these players taking the kick in will improve their figures dramatically. Tonight, it's been more like 90% of kick ins were still taken from within the square.
Leaves a few questions.

Teams not wanting to give away any of their plans with the new rules is my thought. Players will take the space on offer. Look at the percentage of guys that played on last year. That will increase significantly.

 

[Bradkli]

Worpel is interesting, the forward DPP breakouter like McGrath down back (Weller maybe too). I think the only thing that puts me off on him is the unknown as he's only played like 10 games and there's the chance he may start fast but fade and not be good enough come seasons end, if he had say 30 under his belt then there's a bigger sample size to look at. Feel McGrath as the breakout DPPer is more likely due to his history of scoring 70-75 averages straight up, feel he can go 85-95 if he gets a wing type of role.

Mate, I reckon Bradkli can't stand Hack Billings more than me. I like Gresham too, but feel Lynch/Lycett is the more proven option/better tactically for that value type around 550-600k. Greene at the cheaper rate at 434k if he plays a JLT game too. Do think Gresham will go around 85-90 though, he won't be the worst pick, just that he can play forward also and be damaging there, so might get chopped and changed if St Kilda are struggling up forward (Gray/Wingard frustration etc with Port)

Petracca and Billings were nightmares last year for me, plus Zorko stunk it up first 6 weeks, trying to work out decent enough cheapish picks who will be good enough all year round for a role in the team before the byes then in the squad after the byes is crucial atm, feel Lycett could be handy like Nank was in 2017 for example.

Billing’s, Petrecca and Neale were the absolute pits last season...Neale would need nearly 40 touches just to score 100...refused to tackle, mark and kick... petrecca and Neale are never agains...will need to see billings in JLT...with hanners injured and Steven out indefinitely I feel one of billings or Gresham will start the season big.

 

[Tex Danger]

hall looking bad but hard to know how much to put down to the early knee issue
will need a strong next match for me

except for B Smith at this stage all my mid pricers concerningly in the same boat with Hanley and Greene not fronting up this week. May be some significant changes if Hall, Hanley and Greene dont impress next week

EDIT: not returned after half time suggests cant read anything into 1st half form. But has to be likely to miss next JLT which makes selecting him if named rd 1 a bigger risk, he was 1 id like to have seen something from. The 1 positive was he was featuring in the centre square

 

[Bradkli]

Who’s going to fall for Sloane and brad crouch??? Milera an interesting one as well. Reminds me of a much better version Hack Jones from the swans. Obviously can’t have laird, Smith and Milera but he looks like he will be a good POD this season.


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[Bandicoot]

hall looking bad but hard to know how much to put down to the early knee issue
will need a strong next match for me

except for B Smith at this stage all my mid pricers concerningly in the same boat with Hanley and Greene not fronting up this week. May be some significant changes if Hall, Hanley and Greene dont impress next week

EDIT: not returned after half time suggests cant read anything into 1st half form. But has to be likely to miss next JLT which makes selecting him if named rd 1 a bigger risk, he was 1 id like to have seen something from. The 1 positive was he was featuring in the centre square

Agreed. Not too many mid pricers have excited us so far. With regards to Hall, you have to keep in mind that he had apparently been burning the house down from reports coming out of North. Do you allow one game change your mindset and what you spent 3 months deciding?

 

[Tex Danger]

Agreed. Not too many mid pricers have excited us so far. With regards to Hall, you have to keep in mind that he had apparently been burning the house down from reports coming out of North. Do you allow one game change your mindset and what you spent 3 months deciding?

the game didnt change my mind at all, he got 20 from 20% TOG and at least 50% of that was playing injured so that actually converts ok (too small sample to be any value either way really).

Its more that there will likely be no chance to get positive confirmation for the pick if me misses next week so that makes it high risk. If 100% fit I still have him at this stage, but won't be an easy decision. fingers crossed he plays next week

 

[Bandicoot]

the game didnt change my mind at all, he got 20 from 20% TOG and at least 50% of that was playing injured so that actually converts ok (too small sample to be any value either way really).

Its more that there will likely be no chance to get positive confirmation for the pick if me misses next week so that makes it high risk. If 100% fit I still have him at this stage, but won't be an easy decision. fingers crossed he plays next week

I doubt he will play next week but I would think that North (like most clubs) will play a practice match against someone else in the off weekend and Hall will play in that. Unless we discover this week that the injury was more severe than we thought, I'm sure he will be 100% by round 1.

 

[Bandicoot]

I thought that the dickhead coaching staff at the Swans would have learnt from the embarrassment of last year's finals debacle. But no, nothings changed. Still no forward structure at all. Always outnumbered in the forward line. Refuse to play on at any stage. Just the usual stop, start, who will I kick it to rubbish. Longmire's use by date has long gone.

 

[CrozaN]

Thanks cogs for having a quite game

 

[CrozaN]

The only spot I am really struggling to fill atm is F3. Currently have Gresham there leaving me with $180K in the bank. This will allow me plenty of options come conclusion of round 2 with final changes before price increases.
Have considered Mundy as he will most likely go back to a full mid field role and even Billings for the same reason. (I can see pups falling off his chair reading this) .
I think it will end up being one of these three.
Currently have Danger and Heeney as F1 & 2 with Worpel as F4.

Dunkley