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mezaire said:
Something else I was thinking about is the lack of downgrade target rookies we might have during this season.
Unless there are a lot of injuries, not many rookies waiting in the wings :(
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Don't forget, this year we have a mid season draft.
And whilst only 6 teams will have a pick, you'd think whoever is dominating the state leagues will be whisked away for our $170k enjoyment.
 
dibikins said:
Think I've settled on this, thoughts??


Lloyd Whitfield Smith
Williams Clark Scrimshaw

Mcrae Brayshaw Rocky Sheed
Crouch Libba Walsh Scott/rookie

Grundy Gawn

Dangerfield Dunkley Worpel
Higgins Setterfield Drew
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Seems like a solid team. But I'm still a bit confused on the Sheed hype train to be honest. He's at a weird price point for mine.

Answer these questions:
1) Will he be a keeper? My answer is no.
2) Will he make money? My answer is probably yes - maybe $100-$150k (maximum) in the first 7-8rnds.
3) What is a trade worth to you?

For me I don't like going into the year with a 'oh I'll just make a quick $150k off this bloke and then upgrade him'. For one, trades are precious and you only get 2 per week. Locking in any form of required trade before the year happens is risky (ie not staying Grundy/Gawn).

Also it never pans out that way. Best case, if sheed opens up with a 95-100 avg for the first 5 rounds you'll be sky high. He'll make ~100k but why would you trade him? You'll undoubtedly keep him and watch as he scores 50 one week, 75 the next, 60 the week after etc and before you know it he's back to the $550k you started and it was a failed move.

Just too much risk for mine and just doesn't really work with my structure anyway.

Therefore my suggested change would be:
Sheed -> Cousins (far better cash generation for sacrificing ~15-20avg ppg);
Rocky -> Treloar/MCrouch. (set and forget reliable premo).
Spend the spare $30k as you see fit to perhaps upgrade a $170k rookie somewhere to someone more reliable.
 

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danster168 said:
love some feedback on my team. It's pretty settled.

Backs: Laird, Whitfield, B.Smith, Z.Williams, Scrimshaw, Duursma (rook rook)

Centres: Coniglio, Brayshaw, Taranto, B.Couch, Libba, Cousins, S.Walsh, Constable (rook rook)

Rucks: Grundy, Gawn

Fwds: Danger, T.Kelly, Heeney, Worpel, Setterfield, W.Drew (rook rook)


*Went with a weaker midfield because I couldn't stand having a Parker or a Burgess on my field in the fwd line. And I'm big on Taranto this year so he is my only non-negotiable. I'm unsure on Cousins. No-one here seems to confidently predict his avg, even hawks fans
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Weve got near on identical teams and i havent changed mine for a few days now, i reckon that is good to go pending rookie selection. It looks extremely balanced and should work well in terms of amount of premiums and the rookies that needed to be fielded
 
Sloane4brownlow said:
Seems like a solid team. But I'm still a bit confused on the Sheed hype train to be honest. He's at a weird price point for mine.

Answer these questions:
1) Will he be a keeper? My answer is no.
2) Will he make money? My answer is probably yes - maybe $100-$150k (maximum) in the first 7-8rnds.
3) What is a trade worth to you?

For me I don't like going into the year with a 'oh I'll just make a quick $150k off this bloke and then upgrade him'. For one, trades are precious and you only get 2 per week. Locking in any form of required trade before the year happens is risky (ie not staying Grundy/Gawn).

Also it never pans out that way. Best case, if sheed opens up with a 95-100 avg for the first 5 rounds you'll be sky high. He'll make ~100k but why would you trade him? You'll undoubtedly keep him and watch as he scores 50 one week, 75 the next, 60 the week after etc and before you know it he's back to the $550k you started and it was a failed move.

Just too much risk for mine and just doesn't really work with my structure anyway.

Therefore my suggested change would be:
Sheed -> Cousins (far better cash generation for sacrificing ~15-20avg ppg);
Rocky -> Treloar/MCrouch. (set and forget reliable premo).
Spend the spare $30k as you see fit to perhaps upgrade a $170k rookie somewhere to someone more reliable.
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I like the thinking and I agree that you are right, but with the bolded, I just can't help shake the feeling you may be way off here.

Sheed could very easily average 60-50 more ppg than Cousins and that would not be outside the realm of possibility.
 
Sloane4brownlow said:
Seems like a solid team. But I'm still a bit confused on the Sheed hype train to be honest. He's at a weird price point for mine.

Answer these questions:
1) Will he be a keeper? My answer is no.
2) Will he make money? My answer is probably yes - maybe $100-$150k (maximum) in the first 7-8rnds.
3) What is a trade worth to you?

For me I don't like going into the year with a 'oh I'll just make a quick $150k off this bloke and then upgrade him'. For one, trades are precious and you only get 2 per week. Locking in any form of required trade before the year happens is risky (ie not staying Grundy/Gawn).

Also it never pans out that way. Best case, if sheed opens up with a 95-100 avg for the first 5 rounds you'll be sky high. He'll make ~100k but why would you trade him? You'll undoubtedly keep him and watch as he scores 50 one week, 75 the next, 60 the week after etc and before you know it he's back to the $550k you started and it was a failed move.

Just too much risk for mine and just doesn't really work with my structure anyway.

Therefore my suggested change would be:
Sheed -> Cousins (far better cash generation for sacrificing ~15-20avg ppg);
Rocky -> Treloar/MCrouch. (set and forget reliable premo).
Spend the spare $30k as you see fit to perhaps upgrade a $170k rookie somewhere to someone more reliable.
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To be fair that same logic can be applied to Cousins as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out and repeats what he's previously done in the real stuff - 45, 60, 50 etc.
 
What are people's thoughts on Davies Uniacke as a prospect for this year. I feel like he should have solid job security and had one good and one average JLT game. I'm also not sure I trust North players but he is at a very tempting price. Issue is I just can't seem to find many mid rookies who I think will be guaranteed a decent set of games.
 
Shadow89 said:
Bring on Round 1.

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(Jones a placeholder until I see if Archie Smith plays. If he doesn't, Clark/Duursma on field and Scrimshaw to the bench. Balta also a placeholder 'til teams are released)
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Great side! Very even across the board and I love the value D2. I've been feeling a bit lonely having picked Wayne Milera there myself. Interested to know why you've picked a bit of value there too...?

I've been thinking Laird is an obvious upgrade target (perhaps at a cheaper price), while Whitfield will remain a similar price throughout the year. I'm backing Milera to push 90+ and while possibly falling short of becoming a top 6 defender, can atleast keep me competitive while generating some cash. It's also allowed me to stick an extra player up forward, which wasn't previously possible. That's a bit of a blessing with the lack of quality and JS up forward.

Interesting ruck choice too, btw. I don't mind it at all. Little downside at that price, plenty of upside.
 

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PAFC27 said:
Great side! Very even across the board and I love the value D2. I've been feeling a bit lonely having picked Wayne Milera there myself. Interested to know why you've picked a bit of value there too...?

I've been thinking Laird is an obvious upgrade target (perhaps at a cheaper price), while Whitfield will remain a similar price throughout the year. I'm backing Milera to push 90+ and while possibly falling short of becoming a top 6 defender, can atleast keep me competitive while generating some cash.

Interesting ruck choice too, btw. I don't mind it at all. Little downside at that price, plenty of upside.
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Cheers mate :)

Yeah I agree on Whit and Laird, but I also think that there's too much uncertainty with someone like Witho, so that's why I spent a bit more for Whit (could easily be Lloyd based on info closer to the day/omission of McVeigh etc). Have looked at players like Milera, Mills, Newman, McGrath etc., but their roles are too uncertain for mine. Milera was a strong consideration for that position, but I think it's gonna be a raffle every week who has the highest scores out of Milera, Smith, Seeds and Laird. At least with Smith, he's cheap enough that you can cop the odd 60 or 70, while also getting his 90's.

Yeah, Kreuz being all but ruled out has let me go on with my plan of getting Mummy in Round 3, and then building up to the ruck choice that I want. That's pretty much how I've built this whole side, on little downside with a lot of cash gen and the ability to downgrade/upgrade if I need to plug holes fast. McCarthy, Newnes, Cousins, Selwood, Witho, Lloyd and Goldy have all gone in and out, but Whit at D1 also means the structure of the rooks is better, because there's a flow on effect (I originally had 1 premo in Crisp, 2 midpricers and 3 rooks). It looked ok, but then the bench suffered. I think Collingwood's change of game style and their emphasis on a ton of marks (70 and 115 more than the oppo in each game respectively) means that Crisp should have a half decent year. He also has a better ceiling than most around his price, which is what makes him an attractive prospect
 
Shadow89 said:
Bring on Round 1.

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(Jones a placeholder until I see if Archie Smith plays. If he doesn't, Clark/Duursma on field and Scrimshaw to the bench. Balta also a placeholder 'til teams are released)
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I'll be interested to see how your team pans out over the season. I can definitely see you're chasing value and if it all works out you're laughing. This is just my opinion, but the problem I see with your team is that there's only 7/8 genuine keepers. Most teams will be looking at 11. Meaning you'll be needing to upgrade 10 of your starting 18 players, minimum 2 trades per upgrade (1 up, 1 down) that's already 20 trades. Plus you have to factor in injuries. Not to mention that very few of these midprice value picks actually work out. You're already starting the season on the back foot but just my opinion of course
 
bl4ke said:
I'll be interested to see how your team pans out over the season. I can definitely see you're chasing value and if it all works out you're laughing. This is just my opinion, but the problem I see with your team is that there's only 7/8 genuine keepers. Most teams will be looking at 11. Meaning you'll be needing to upgrade 10 of your starting 18 players, minimum 2 trades per upgrade (1 up, 1 down) that's already 20 trades. Plus you have to factor in injuries. Not to mention that very few of these midprice value picks actually work out. You're already starting the season on the back foot but just my opinion of course
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Very valid point. I'm finding it a bit hard to get up to 11 keepers without neglecting at least one of my lines though unfortunately and I think secure rookies are going to play a big part this year
 
PAFC27 said:
Very valid point. I'm finding it a bit hard to get up to 11 keepers without neglecting at least one of my lines though unfortunately and I think secure rookies are going to play a big part this year
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All good points. This year its very interesting to see what the best formula will be and no right/wrong way at the moment. Just giving him another perspective to consider :)
 
What I am rolling with (for now)
Traditional Guns and Rookies for the most part
Bolded are keepers, underlined are 50/50s

Lloyd, Whitfield, Witherden, Williams, Clark, Scrimshaw (Burgess, Hore)
Treloar, Merrett, Martin, Rockliff*, Crouch, Walsh, Scott, Constable (Hind, Gibbons)
Grundy, Goldstein (Fort, Cameron)
Dangerfield, Heeney, Kelly, Worpel, Setterfield, Drew (Petrucelle, Parker)

*Some would argue Rockliff is not a keeper ,but I am selecting him on the intention he will be.
11 keepers, 4 50/50s, 7 definite upgrades

Immediate weakness I see compared to other teams is going 3 rookies deep in the middle (and 2 170k ones). I can somewhat combat this by going Treloar down to Brayshaw and then bumping someone like Hind up to Duursma
 
bl4ke said:
I'll be interested to see how your team pans out over the season. I can definitely see you're chasing value and if it all works out you're laughing. This is just my opinion, but the problem I see with your team is that there's only 7/8 genuine keepers. Most teams will be looking at 11. Meaning you'll be needing to upgrade 10 of your starting 18 players, minimum 2 trades per upgrade (1 up, 1 down) that's already 20 trades. Plus you have to factor in injuries. Not to mention that very few of these midprice value picks actually work out. You're already starting the season on the back foot but just my opinion of course
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I full heatedly agree with this. But this year, as PAFC said, it's so hard to get those 11-12 genuine keepers like in previous years. I also believe the value this year is so much better than in previous years. Going to be a very interesting season as to what strategy wins out
 
happy_eagle said:
What I am rolling with (for now)
Traditional Guns and Rookies for the most part
Bolded are keepers, underlined are 50/50s

Lloyd, Whitfield, Witherden, Williams, Clark, Scrimshaw (Burgess, Hore)
Treloar, Merrett, Martin, Rockliff*, Crouch, Walsh, Scott, Constable (Hind, Gibbons)
Grundy, Goldstein (Fort, Cameron)
Dangerfield, Heeney, Kelly, Worpel, Setterfield, Drew (Petrucelle, Parker)

*Some would argue Rockliff is not a keeper ,but I am selecting him on the intention he will be.
11 keepers, 4 50/50s, 7 definite upgrades

Immediate weakness I see compared to other teams is going 3 rookies deep in the middle (and 2 170k ones). I can somewhat combat this by going Treloar down to Brayshaw and then bumping someone like Hind up to Duursma
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What're your concerns with Worpel at F4? I'm a little worried about paying up 480k for an 80-90 (with potential to drop a 60) with a Jamie Elliott or Lincoln McCarthy who may not average as high but provide arguably better value and cash generation. Keen to hear your thoughts
 
bl4ke said:
I'll be interested to see how your team pans out over the season. I can definitely see you're chasing value and if it all works out you're laughing. This is just my opinion, but the problem I see with your team is that there's only 7/8 genuine keepers. Most teams will be looking at 11. Meaning you'll be needing to upgrade 10 of your starting 18 players, minimum 2 trades per upgrade (1 up, 1 down) that's already 20 trades. Plus you have to factor in injuries. Not to mention that very few of these midprice value picks actually work out. You're already starting the season on the back foot but just my opinion of course
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Nah that's completely fine, and trust me, I've considered all options. My team has had over 140 players in it, with every different structure imaginable, haha. The thing is, is that all the one's I've picked are on the low-end, price wise. I've made sure I haven't gone speculative with anyone over 450K (with the exception of Worp, but his role looks pretty solid/can easily be changed if need be). Sheed and Brouch are over that price point, but they'll hit their averages and it's a bonus if they have upside (which they most likely will). That's the way I see it anyway, and it will definitely be interesting to see which strategy works out this year :)
 

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