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Just listened to RTBs presser. I got them impression there was a trigger for Jesse over the weekend. Won’t all the haters feel like trash if it has to do with his fathers passing, cancer diagnosis or important family event.Give the kid a break and let him heal!

Sounded to me like he is adjusting to medication and mixing with Alcohol (especially early on with new medication) didn’t have a good outcome. RTB made it clear he wouldn’t go into the specifics of the behaviour outcome and said that the Doctors came to him on Sunday and said Hogan isn’t available and we need to work through this with Jesse medically.

Let’s remember there were pictures run by the West Australian of Jesse sitting in the stand with RTB and Lobb on Sat afternoon at East Fremantle oval.

His late father passed away in late April 2017 and then about 2 weeks later in early May 2017 he was diagnosed with testicular cancer.

Let’s back off Jesse and let him get himself right before he is recalled. No need for him to train or play with Peel.

Mark Duffield made a comment yesterday about Shane Kersten not being liked. Not heard this before and Kersten’s Plantar Fasciitis issue has been dragging on for months. Still listed as TBC.

Has anyone seen Shane Kersten at training?


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My money is it is about pressure and expectation. I get it, I've been there. Overcoming some pretty awful personal stuff takes so much out of you, and then you're expected to not only come through it but to perform, and not only perform but perform at an elite level.

No pressure to perform at training. Out on the field of Optus stadium with a lot of Australia watching your every move is a whole different story.

The media and those that believe everything they hear have been savages. He'll get through it. Not sure the illness those idiots criticising him as if he is a criminal have is curable though.

You seem pretty fired up , so don't take this the wrong way but he's running around off his face pretty regularly so technically that does make you a criminal , as problematic and pointless as that seems to me


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You seem pretty fired up , so don't take this the wrong way but he's running around off his face pretty regularly so technically that does make you a criminal , as problematic and pointless as that seems to me


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Taking drugs isn't criminal, selling them is.
 
You seem pretty fired up , so don't take this the wrong way but he's running around off his face pretty regularly so technically that does make you a criminal , as problematic and pointless as that seems to me
And where is the proof of this? I've seen one blurry photo of him lying down over the break since we traded him (when he is allowed to). We've heard he drank on the weekend - but we have no idea what. The reports he was in a fight have since been rejected as false - the CCTV proving it mysteriously has never seen the light of day. And I've seen a video of him from 2016 with a Santa jacket on. What else is there?
 

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And where is the proof of this? I've seen one blurry photo of him lying down over the break since we traded him (when he is allowed to). We've heard he drank on the weekend - but we have no idea what. The reports he was in a fight have since been rejected as false - the CCTV proving it mysteriously has never seen the light of day. And I've seen a video of him from 2016 with a Santa jacket on. What else is there?
Sorry but this sounds exactly like West Coast fans circa 2005, when we used to laugh at them about Benny.
 
Sorry but this sounds exactly like West Coast fans circa 2005, when we used to laugh at them about Benny.
Nah the WC thing was a complete cover up. Everyone knew what was going on - it was a club wide issue. Jesse clearly is no angel but if there was anything even remotely in that same league the media would be all over it. FFS they just linked Bennell to a bikie because someone he knew was approached by a group that had a bikie in it. Talk about a ridiculous stretch to create the perception that Harley was at fault in some way. They would be stalking Jesse and Harley for any inkling of bad behaviour they can turn into a story. Having too many drinks, smoking a joint or even popping a pill is nothing like constant injections of all manner of drugs by that circa 2005 crew. Basil and any one else should be ashamed for making the comparison. He could spiral (and we will certainly hear about it if he does) but I don't think he will.
 
And where is the proof of this? I've seen one blurry photo of him lying down over the break since we traded him (when he is allowed to). We've heard he drank on the weekend - but we have no idea what. The reports he was in a fight have since been rejected as false - the CCTV proving it mysteriously has never seen the light of day. And I've seen a video of him from 2016 with a Santa jacket on. What else is there?

I couldn't give a rats what footy players get up to off the field , never have but I'd say there is already a fair bit more proof out there on Jesse than was or is on Fevola , Sylvia , Buddy , Swanny Cousins or a thousand other party boy footy players

Hate the rumourmongering if you want to but why do the rumours follow some players and not others

Hint - it's because they're out there playing up.


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I couldn't give a rats what footy players get up to off the field , never have but I'd say there is already a fair bit more proof out there on Jesse than was or is on Fevola , Sylvia , Buddy , Swanny Cousins or a thousand other party boy footy players
I really don't think we should be clogging up the best thread in this forum with all this (so maybe lets take this convo to the respective threads). But please do create a list of all the proof out there about Jesse (and Harley if you don't mind) and share with us. I've searched a lot and found very little so I'm curious. With so many camera phones, cctv footage etc, it should be pretty easy to create a compelling case given how regularly these guys are doing the wrong thing ;)
 
I get the older generation have a more of a 'toughen up' attitude around mental illness and are worried everyone is becoming to PC about it all bla bla.. but we are not as ****ing dumb as we were 30yrs ago, we evolve, learn and research and now know it is a real serious ****ing issue and so diverse.

I mean doctors used to send house wives home with clinical post natal depression with a laugh and a pat on the back if they were lucky not all that long ago.

Last Gen's footy blokes would be under a tiny fraction of the stress and expectation that these poor young players are. Testosterone, social media, media scrutiny, big money, a short career, rigorous club standards and rules. You throw personal tragedy into the mix and it is a tinder box ready to go off.

The toughen up crowd need to realise they are just plain old wrong ESPECIALLY when all the facts are not present.

When Jesse makes it on the park I'ma be cheering loud with a proud dumb smile.
 
Why didn't the media hammer west coast players and the club when they were buying ice and coke from Kizon and always spotted in Subi with him?

That was Cousins Cox and the others

Why do they make a feel good charity over the death of Mainwaring when he was a drug fiend who turned his back on his family to hang out with Cousins? He was a selfish dog
 
Sounded to me like he is adjusting to medication and mixing with Alcohol (especially early on with new medication) didn’t have a good outcome. RTB made it clear he wouldn’t go into the specifics of the behaviour outcome and said that the Doctors came to him on Sunday and said Hogan isn’t available and we need to work through this with Jesse medically.

Let’s remember there were pictures run by the West Australian of Jesse sitting in the stand with RTB and Lobb on Sat afternoon at East Fremantle oval.

His late father passed away in late April 2017 and then about 2 weeks later in early May 2017 he was diagnosed with testicular cancer.

Let’s back off Jesse and let him get himself right before he is recalled. No need for him to train or play with Peel.

Mark Duffield made a comment yesterday about Shane Kersten not being liked. Not heard this before and Kersten’s Plantar Fasciitis issue has been dragging on for months. Still listed as TBC.

Has anyone seen Shane Kersten at training?


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Why didn't the media hammer west coast players and the club when they were buying ice and coke from Kizon and always spotted in Subi with him?

That was Cousins Cox and the others

Why do they make a feel good charity over the death of Mainwaring when he was a drug fiend who turned his back on his family to hang out with Cousins? He was a selfish dog

Intersting isn't it.....you could add chick, Gardiner, Kerr, embley, Lynch, Hunter, Ryan and of course flatline fletcher probably amongst many others - don't know who is the bigger joke, wce supporters with their willingness to slip the boots into freo at the moment or the pathetic media.
 
Why didn't the media hammer west coast players and the club when they were buying ice and coke from Kizon and always spotted in Subi with him?

That was Cousins Cox and the others

Why do they make a feel good charity over the death of Mainwaring when he was a drug fiend who turned his back on his family to hang out with Cousins? He was a selfish dog
They did.

They bought a photo I took of Kizon and Cousins for a hefty sum. It's not alllll bias against freo.
 
maybe something in that comment about Kersten as i saw plenty of him last year at peel and he never seemed to embrace/encourage the player group
like say sam collins , brady grey or matty deboer
In my opinion we have exited the soul of our club and does Lyon really know a footballer from a netball player (or was it chris bond)
Bring back the likes of barlow and deboer next year as assistant coaches, we need substance not flashy
 

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