Training 2020 Preseason

[jackess]

And Answerth in the seniors is good sign

 

[lionshine]

I saw Dev Robertson and Cox in the senior side too but obviously the likes of Zorko, Neale and Cameron weren't playing.

 

[Scubaveg]

I saw Dev Robertson and Cox in the senior side too but obviously the likes of Zorko, Neale and Cameron weren't playing.

Skinner?


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[Dalions]

Skinner?


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I couldn’t make out any of them for certain.

 

[Dylan12]

 

[briztoon]

I saw Dev Robertson and Cox in the senior side too but obviously the likes of Zorko, Neale and Cameron weren't playing.

Cox in for Cameron. Dev and Ely in for Neale and Zorko.

I like it.

 

[CarterS]

Just spent a time looking through predictions threads on here and around twitter etc., I'm sure others have picked up that nearly no-one has picked us for the top 4 and a fair few have picked us to drop out of the 8 entirely. Probably shouldn't be surprised really.

 

[dlanod]

Just spent a time looking through predictions threads on here and around twitter etc., I'm sure others have picked up that nearly no-one has picked us for the top 4 and a fair few have picked us to drop out of the 8 entirely. Probably shouldn't be surprised really.

I can't really blame them. If another team had jumped as highly as we had in just one year, I'd be looking at it very dubiously as to whether they'd be able to back it up the following year.

 

[scoman]

I can't really blame them. If another team had jumped as highly as we had in just one year, I'd be looking at it very dubiously as to whether they'd be able to back it up the following year.

Plenty of reasons to doubt:
Had a dream run with injuries
Very even competition with a number of 'better' teams finishing below us
No more Hodge
Out in straight sets when it got serious
Teams will put more planning into us now
Key forwards not coming on - too reliant on Cameron and Mids.
Because Melbourne and The Dogs

We can argue against any of the above, but they do have some merit.

 

[M Malice]

We are in contention for the flag IF we have another dream run with injuries IMO, we still lack depth in some areas, same could be said for most sides though.

I'm hoping for top 4 but would be happy with top 6 and a guaranteed home final.

Who can we least afford to lose to injury? IMO Zorko, Cameron, Hipwood, Gardiner, Neale, McCluggage.

 

[SXT15]

I think the one player who is a bit unknown atm is Tom Berry, he’s got attributes we could really benefit from. He’s almost the number one pressure player on our list, it would literally be between Zorks/Charlie & him. I haven’t seen too many like him before where he is like a jack rabbit when oppo has the ball within 30m radius. The intensity he approaches chasing & tackling & general harassment is elite.

I’m wondering if he could be a wildcard for us complimenting our established small/med forwards? And, before anyone mentions Allen Christensen, the reality is that he’s a great contest/ground pill winner, but the guy has very average pace. The stats don’t show how many ‘failed’ chases he shows up in. TB would be entirely different.

Only issue is he can’t kick atm. Much like a Jason Castagna role for the Tiges

 

[CarterS]

I can't really blame them. If another team had jumped as highly as we had in just one year, I'd be looking at it very dubiously as to whether they'd be able to back it up the following year.

Plenty of reasons to doubt:
Had a dream run with injuries
Very even competition with a number of 'better' teams finishing below us
No more Hodge
Out in straight sets when it got serious
Teams will put more planning into us now
Key forwards not coming on - too reliant on Cameron and Mids.
Because Melbourne and The Dogs

We can argue against any of the above, but they do have some merit.

Fair points and agree with all of them especially the planning and key forwards not coming on. "Easy draw" was another one thrown around.

 

[dlanod]

Fair points and agree with all of them especially the planning and key forwards not coming on. "Easy draw" was another one thrown around.

Easy draw shits me, because no one's knocking Geelong over an "easy draw"... they had basically the same draw as us, except for a second game against Sydney instead of Gold Coast - so just a different and slightly better bottom team. Is that where the line between an easy draw and not is?

 

[Maroon Monsoon]

I think it's probably fair to expect that we'll drop back a game or two next season - I actually think that was the consensus expectation at the end of last season. With that said, given our lack of injuries in the off-season a fall out of the 8 would be even more devastating than Melbourne's last year. For what it's worth I reckon we end up at 13-15 wins this year, of which hopefully 8+ are at home

 

[Nunez]

The more I think about it, the more I feel a round 1 win is even more important. The premiership isn't won in week 1 of the season, but a young team needs early season momentum.

 

[jackess]

While I'd love to win as many games as last year I wouldn't mind winning a couple less if it meant making the prelim. I get the feeling that if we make a strong start we might 'unofficially' move our focus onto finals a little earlier than last season.

 

[CarterS]

The more I think about it, the more I feel a round 1 win is even more important. The premiership isn't won in week 1 of the season, but a young team needs early season momentum.

Might be bit early to say but its a true 50/50 game and I really think it's a barometer for our season. 2nd away game vs Adelaide another one, if we are a top 4 calibre team we need to win them.

 

[rangatangtang]

Even the week after the season the most optimistic calls here were 6-7 is realistic for us this year, im expecting Ah Chee Cox Payne Skinner E Smith DevRob to play a role at some stage this year and they werent in our regular best 22 last year. Also maybe Yeoman Matho Ballenden Birchall too at times. New season and weve got a bunch of professional youth with a great deal of experience and we'll have quite a few revisions i expect once people actually, you know, watch us

 

[jackess]

The more I think about it, the more I feel a round 1 win is even more important. The premiership isn't won in week 1 of the season, but a young team needs early season momentum.

Plus it's at the MCG. We have to start winning games there.

 

[royboys4eva]

Easy draw shits me, because no one's knocking Geelong over an "easy draw"... they had basically the same draw as us, except for a second game against Sydney instead of Gold Coast - so just a different and slightly better bottom team. Is that where the line between an easy draw and not is?

Geelong gets an easy draw every year. They play all the non big sides at their shitty home ground.

 

[Quigley]

Geelong gets an easy draw every year. They play all the non big sides at their shitty home ground.

I would love us to be playing at that ground. It is a good boutique stadium which they get for a song and make a packet of money out of. Give me that over the Gabba any day of the week.

 

[Back2Back2Back]

I like that Rayner is taking the game on more off the half forward. Seems he's backing himself more to have a crack from further out in this game, which is great to see.

 

[Section 5]

I will be happy if we finish top 6 but making the 8 is the main goal for the Club, supporters & sponsors.
After reading the below article from Fox i feel a little better about at least making the 8
The article is interesting mentioning things like, umpiring & noise of affirmation, what if you struggle to win at home, teams with best HGA surprise surprise who is number 1.

One extract from article
HOW POWERFUL IS IT?

So every team is expected to be better at home than away; but you need to be properly good when you have that advantage for it to mean something.

Foxfooty.com.au looked back across the 2010s and found the break-even point is seven wins.

What that means is in the last decade, if you won seven of your 11 home games, you qualified for the finals 50 per cent of the time exactly. (30 teams went 7-4 or 7-3 with a draw, and 15 made the eight.)

But there were big drops on either side of that mark. If you won eight home games, you played finals 91.3 per cent of the time; every team that won nine or more home games in a season made the eight.

If you won just six home games, you were down to a 28 per cent chance of making the eight, while only 15 per cent of teams that won five home games went on to play finals.

No team that won four or fewer home games in a season between 2010 and 2019 played finals.

THE NUMBERS (Home wins in a season, 2010-19)

9 or more wins = 100% of teams played finals

8 = 91.3%

7 = 50%

Link to article for those interested

These teams have one big edge on the rest of the AFL. It could decide the flag

These teams have one BIG edge on the rest of the AFL — and it could decide the flag

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Back2Back2Back]

I will be happy if we finish top 6 but making the 8 is the main goal for the Club, supporters & sponsors.
After reading the below article from Fox i feel a little better about at least making the 8
The article is interesting mentioning things like, umpiring & noise of affirmation, what if you struggle to win at home, teams with best HGA surprise surprise who is number 1.

One extract from article
HOW POWERFUL IS IT?

So every team is expected to be better at home than away; but you need to be properly good when you have that advantage for it to mean something.

Foxfooty.com.au looked back across the 2010s and found the break-even point is seven wins.

What that means is in the last decade, if you won seven of your 11 home games, you qualified for the finals 50 per cent of the time exactly. (30 teams went 7-4 or 7-3 with a draw, and 15 made the eight.)

But there were big drops on either side of that mark. If you won eight home games, you played finals 91.3 per cent of the time; every team that won nine or more home games in a season made the eight.

If you won just six home games, you were down to a 28 per cent chance of making the eight, while only 15 per cent of teams that won five home games went on to play finals.

No team that won four or fewer home games in a season between 2010 and 2019 played finals.

THE NUMBERS (Home wins in a season, 2010-19)

9 or more wins = 100% of teams played finals

8 = 91.3%

7 = 50%

Link to article for those interested

These teams have one big edge on the rest of the AFL. It could decide the flag

These teams have one BIG edge on the rest of the AFL — and it could decide the flag

www.foxsports.com.au

Richmond (MCG) - 40-5 (89% win rate)

BuT tHeY sTiLl PlAy ThE sAmE nUmBeR oF AwAy GaMeS aS iNtErStAtE tEAMs

 

[martinson]

Round one is an important game for us . Lose that ,and particularly at the MCG , and a little bit of self belief goes with it.

It's only round 1 bit I don't think our draw is anything special over the first few rounds .