List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Watch

[JasRulz63]

Current no. of players on the list
Senior list - 34 (2-4 free*)
Rookie (Cat A) - 4 (0-2 free*)
Rookie (Cat B) - 2 (0 free)
Maximum list size of 44. Up to 36-38 senior list, 4-6 category A rookie list and 2 category B rookie list.
* Total of four list spots available, with a minimum of 2 senior list spots needing to be utilised.

List changes
IN: Daniher, Cockatoo, Uosis (R)
OUT: Christensen, Wooller, Allison (R), Skinner (R), Eagles (R), C. Lyons (R), Martin, Witherden, Cox, Hinge.
PROMOTED: Fullarton.
ROOKIED: Birchall, Mathieson, Ballendan.

Current picks
25, 53, 58, 69, 70
(2021 - 1st (MEL), 1st, 3rd (WCE), 3rd, 4th (MEL), 4th (COLL), 5th)

Spoiler: 2020 draft order

Useful links
2020 trade news compendium
List changes, contract status and key dates
2020 draft discussion thread

 

[Mighty Lions]

He hasn’t even requested a trade yet.

Ok...I told you first then.

 

[Dalions]

Ok...I told you first then.

 

[beatnik]

But the choice is between 2 rucks and 2 key forwards or 1 ruck, 2 key forwards and 1 ruck/forward.

They don’t plan on playing an extra mid

I agree that some posters have overstated the 'extra mid' angle but it's not as clear-cut as that

here's a good explanation from JazRules63:

List Mgmt. - 2020 Trade Watch

Current no. of players on the list Senior list - 34 (2-4 free*) Rookie (Cat A) - 4 (0-2 free*) Rookie (Cat B) - 2 (0 free) Maximum list size of 44. Up to 36-38 senior list, 4-6 category A rookie list and 2 category B rookie list. * Total of four list spots available, with a minimum of 2 senior...

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think of it this way, if we have pinch-hittter forwards filling in for a 2nd ruckman, then Big O won't spend any time resting in the forward line as he would in a 2-ruck setup; he'll be either rucking or resting on the bench

this means that a smaller, faster player will take those minutes and we'll play a 2-tall forward line for as long as Oscar is off the field

so in one sense, it is perhaps like we will have an 'extra midfielder' for some periods of the game...

 

[iBeng]

I wonder why West Coasts Ah Chee hasn't signed a new contract? Wonder if he'd improve us at all.

 

[irel]

I wonder why West Coasts Ah Chee hasn't signed a new contract? Wonder if he'd improve us at all.

Much the same situation as Hinge and Martin. West Coast is waiting for list size confirmation and how the trade period plays out to see how many vacancies they will have. According to news reports in WA.

 

[ItsRaynerGoals]

A HS article online highlighting clubs needs and delisting mentions we have delisted Smith wit a view of selecting him in the rookie draft if he is not picked up by another club, is this correct?

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[dlanod]

A HS article online highlighting clubs needs and delisting mentions we have delisted Smith wit a view of selecting him in the rookie draft if he is not picked up by another club, is this correct?

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Can't read the link, so no idea. It might be from 2019 and talking about Archie?

Other than that, the club hasn't announced anything about Ely at all. Seems like a weird choice pre-trade period.

 

[JasRulz63]

BRISBANE

DRAFT PICKS

18, 19, 42, 69, 85, 93

DELISTINGS/RETIREMENTS

Allen Christensen

3

Allen Christensen

Age

33

Ht

176cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.4

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

8.4

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

, Toby Wooller, Jacob Allison

19

Jacob Allison

Age

26

Ht

195cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

8.2

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.2

4star

, Sam Skinner

31

Sam Skinner

Age

27

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

MG

101.0

2star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

MG

101.0

2star

, Corey Lyons, Matt Eagles

41

Matt Eagles

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

0.8

3star

MG

98.5

2star

No current season stats available

D

7.3

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

0.8

3star

MG

98.5

2star

.

WHAT THEY NEED

A key forward to play alongside Eric Hipwood

30

Eric Hipwood

Age

27

Ht

203cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.1

2star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.4

5star

has already been secured, with Joe Daniher joining the club from Essendon as a free agent. Hipwood kicked 24 goals and Dan McStay 11, so providing Daniher can stay fit he could be the key target they need inside 50m.

WHO THEY’RE CHASING

Having landed Daniher on a three-year deal as soon as free agency opened, the Lions are also believed to be keen on adding some spice to their midfield mix and have been linked to Nakia Cockatoo

12

Nakia Cockatoo

Age

27

Ht

185cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.1

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.1

5star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.2

3star

from Geelong, who would bring pace and flair to the engine room.

WHO THEY’LL LOSE

Cedric Cox

20

Cedric Cox

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.2

2star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.2

3star

is seeking a move home to WA after playing 13 games in three seasons with the Lions. The No. 24 draft pick from 2016 has not indicated whether his preference is to join West Coast or Fremantle if a deal can be done, but he is out of contract. The Lions have also delisted Archie Smith

44

Archie Smith

Age

29

Ht

203cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

6.9

4star

CL

2.1

4star

HO

14.4

5star

D

4.7

1star

K

1.7

1star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

2.0

4star

HO

11.3

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

3.4

2star

HB

9.0

5star

CL

3.0

5star

HO

17.8

5star

, who is exploring his options but will be re-rookied if he doesn’t find a new home.

 

[ItsRaynerGoals]

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Can't read the link, so no idea. It might be from 2019 and talking about Archie?

Other than that, the club hasn't announced anything about Ely at all. Seems like a weird choice pre-trade period.

Sorry I should of made it clear it was Archie they were discussing.

 

[dlanod]

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Sorry I should of made it clear it was Archie they were discussing.

We did that to Archie last year. He's still on our rookie list.

 

[Fagenslions36]

please no he is horrendous

I wonder why West Coasts Ah Chee hasn't signed a new contract? Wonder if he'd improve us at all.

 

[irish]

think the Archie thing is old news from last year , they need to check their info a bit better

 

[beatnik]

Camporeale also took aim at clubs taking financial risks on injury-prone players such as Brisbane’s recruitment of Joe Daniher on a reported deal worth $800,000 a year.

“If Daniher is getting three years at $800,000 guaranteed, having run a business I think that’s risky business in my eyes.

“He’s 28 and has played 15 games in the last three seasons, I don’t think that’s great business.”

As someone who has a ‘run a business’, perhaps we should run all our potential player additions past Scott?

 

[Nunez]

He's also not 28 /facepalm

 

[Simba Moyo]

Camporeale also took aim at clubs taking financial risks on injury-prone players such as Brisbane’s recruitment of Joe Daniher on a reported deal worth $800,000 a year.

“If Daniher is getting three years at $800,000 guaranteed, having run a business I think that’s risky business in my eyes.

“He’s 28 and has played 15 games in the last three seasons, I don’t think that’s great business.”

As someone who has a ‘run a business’, perhaps we should run all our potential player additions past Scott?

Paying a 28 year old $800k on a multi year deal would be pretty risky.

Good thing Joe is 26.

 

[Nuggo]

People shooting from the hip generally miss the mark

 

[Sproj]

Haha, are any of the 'facts' there accurate?

 

[jackess]

Camporeales coaching career ended so he has to try and make it as an outspoken media pundit. Kind of shows why he had such a bad reputation as a coach

 

[Eons]

Daniher is 26 so hopefully it's not an accounting business he has run

 

[JasRulz63]

Camporeales coaching career ended so he has to try and make it as an outspoken media pundit. Kind of shows why he had such a bad reputation as a coach

Wasn't he an assistant coach during the infamous Adelaide camp (that I wonder if it inspired the SAS show that keeps being advertised)?

Ironically I think I read he now works for a leadership consulting company that aims to improve company culture.

 

[Tom14]

We did that to Archie last year. He's still on our rookie list.

Pretty incredible error that one.

 

[irel]

Maybe Archie has been delisted from the rookie list this year as well on the promise he'll be redrafted as a rookie if he does not find a new home. It may not have been formally announced by the club.

 

[KissKiss]

That potentially is leaving us with only one ruck on the list. Pretty high risk for us to have done that

 

[mpal6]

Camporeale also took aim at clubs taking financial risks on injury-prone players such as Brisbane’s recruitment of Joe Daniher on a reported deal worth $800,000 a year.

“If Daniher is getting three years at $800,000 guaranteed, having run a business I think that’s risky business in my eyes.

“He’s 28 and has played 15 games in the last three seasons, I don’t think that’s great business.”

As someone who has a ‘run a business’, perhaps we should run all our potential player additions past Scott?

Not good with numbers aye, Scott?

 

[Tom14]

That potentially is leaving us with only one ruck on the list. Pretty high risk for us to have done that

Makes absolutely no sense. Also Noble on the roar deal was not talking as if we had delisted Archie.