Preview 2022 AFL Draft General Discussion

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Preview - 2022 AFL Draft General Discussion

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Spoiler: Complete list of draft camp attendees

NATIONAL:

Vic Country

Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays)
Hugh Bond (GWV Rebels)
Coby Burgiel (Gippsland Power)
Aaron Cadman (GWV Rebels)
Jhye Clark (Geelong Falcons)
Brayden George (Murray Bushrangers)
Oliver Hollands (Murray Bushrangers)
Bailey Humphrey (Gippsland Power)
Henry Hustwaite (Dandenong Stingrays)
Max Knobel (Gippsland Power)
Jacob Konstanty (Gippsland Power)
Noah Long (Bendigo Pioneers)
Toby McMullin (Sandringham Dragons)
Caleb Mitchell (Murray Bushrangers)
Olivier Northam (Geelong Falcons)
Jack O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers)
Mitch Szybkowski (Dandenong Stingrays)
Cooper Vickery (Gippsland Power)
James Van Es (GWV Rebels)


Vic Metro

Will Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons)
Charlie Clarke (Sandringham Dragons)
Alwyn Davey

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

(Oakleigh Chargers)
Blake Drury (Oakleigh Chargers)
Max Gruzewski (Oakleigh Chargers)
Lewis Hayes (Eastern Ranges)
Olli Hotton (Sandringham Dragons)
Matthew Jefferson (Oakleigh Chargers)
Cameron Mackenzie (Sandringham Dragons)
Harry Sheezel (Sandringham Dragons)
Luke Teal (Oakleigh Chargers)
Elijah Tsatas (Oakleigh Chargers)
George Wardlaw (Oakleigh Chargers)
Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers)


South Australia

Harry Barnett (West Adelaide)
Adam D'Aloia (Woodville-West Torrens)
Will Dowling (North Adelaide)
Phoenix Foster (Norwood)
Isaac Keeler (North Adelaide)
Harry Lemmey (West Adelaide)
Jaiden Magor (South Adelaide)
Max Michalanney (Norwood)
Mattaes Phillipou (Woodville-West Torrens)
Jakob Ryan (Glenelg)
Nick Sadler (Sturt)
Tom Scully

21

Tom Scully

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.5

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

5.1

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.1

2star

CL

0.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(West Adelaide)
Will Verrall (South Adelaide)


Western Australia

Jed Adams (Peel Thunder)
Edward Allan (Claremont)
Jedd Busslinger (East Perth)
Harry Cole (Claremont)
Hugh Davies (Claremont)
Tyrell Dewar (Subiaco)
Sam Gilbey (Claremont)
Reuben Ginbey (East Perth)
Steely Green (South Fremantle)
Jed Hagan (East Fremantle)
Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts)
Darcy Jones (Swan Districts)


New South Wales
Jason Gillbee (Bendigo Pioneers)
Nick Madden (GWS Academy)
Harry Rowston (GWS Academy)

Northern Territory
Lloyd Johnston (NT Thunder)
Anthony Munkara (NT/West Adelaide)

Queensland
Shadeau Brain (Brisbane Academy)
Jaspa Fletcher (Brisbane Academy)

Tasmania
Seth Campbell (Tasmania Devils)
Lachlan Cowan (Tasmania Devils)
Tom McCallum (Tasmania Devils)

STATE

VIC METRO

Jakob Anderson (Sandringham Dragons)
Yuyu Ashwin (Oakleigh Chargers)
Josh Bennetts (Eastern Ranges)
Jayden Davey (Oakleigh Chargers)
Darcy Edmends (Northern Knights)
Will Elliott (Oakleigh Chargers)
Harry Flynn (Eastern Ranges)
Darcy Gilbert (Sandringham Dragons)
Cooper Harvey (Northern Knights)
Jamie Hope (Sandringham Dragons)
Jerome Lawrence (Oakleigh Chargers)
Bailey Macdonald (Oakleigh Chargers)
Hudson O'Keeffe (Oakleigh Chargers)
Paul Pascu (Calder Cannons)
Matthew Payne (Western Jets)
Rye Penny (Calder Cannons)
Jovan Petric (Western Jets)
Osca Riccardi (Geelong Falcons)
Christopher Rousakis (Sandringham Dragons)
Nathan Scollo (Sandringham Dragons)
Clay Tucker (Eastern Ranges)
Callum Verrell (Eastern Ranges)
Kai Windsor (Eastern Ranges)


VIC COUNTRY

Charlie Barnett (Bendigo Pioneers)
Taj Campbell-Farrell (Dandenong Stingrays)
Ted Clohesy (Geelong Falcons)
Finn Emile-Brennan (Dandenong Stingrays)
Felix Fogaty (GWV Rebels)
Harvey Gallagher (Bendigo Pioneers)
Michael Kiraly (Bendigo Pioneers)
Oscar Murdoch (Geelong Falcons)
Hugo Nosiara (Dandenong Stingrays)
Jonti Schuback (Gippsland Power)
Ziggy Toledo (Dandenong Stingrays)


SOUTH AUSTRALIA

Shaun Bennier (North Adelaide)
Tom Emmett (Sturt)
Oscar Kregar (West Adelaide)
Archie Lovelock (Glenelg)
Baynen Lowe (Norwood)
Kyle Marshall (South Adelaide)
Darcy Minchella (West Adelaide)
Rhett Montgomerie (Central District)
Kobe Ryan (West Adelaide)
Lachlan Scannell (Glenelg)
Oscar Steene (West Adelaide)
Frank Szekely (North Adelaide)
Brodie Tuck (Central District)
Jake Walker (Glenelg)


WESTERN AUSTRALIA

Kane Bevan (West Perth)
Jackson Broadbent (Peel Thunder)
Jack Cleaver (East Fremantle)
Josh Draper (Peel Thunder)
Griff Julian (West Perth)
Bailey Maxwell (East Perth)
Connor McDonald (Perth)
Toby McQuilkin (South Fremantle)
Baxter Philip (Perth)
Jasper Scaife (West Perth)
Kaleb Smith (East Fremantle)
Conrad Williams (Claremont)


NEW SOUTH WALES/ACT

Kaelan Bradtke (Sydney Swans VFL)
Will Edwards (Sydney Swans Academy)

TASMANIA

Brandon Leary (Tasmania Devils)
Cameron Owen (Tasmania Devils)

QUEENSLAND

Brinn Little (Gold Coast Suns Academy)

NT

Beau Tedcastle (GWV Rebels)

Spoiler: Draft Combine Results

AFL DRAFT COMBINE RESULTS 2022​

Vertical Jump ​

75cm – Darcy Jones (WA)
75cm – James Van Es (VIC C)
72cm – Jack O’Sullivan (VIC M)
70cm – Olli Hotton (VIC M)
70cm – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
70cm – Elijah Hewett (WA)
69cm – Jacob Konstanty (VIC C)
68cm – Blake Drury (VIC M)
68cm – Tyrell Dewar (WA)
68cm – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
68cm – Edward Allan (WA)

Running Vertical Jump ​

98cm – James Van Es (VIC C)
90cm – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
90cm – Will Verrall (SA)
89cm – Jack O’Sullivan (VIC M)
87cm – Darcy Jones (WA)
87cm – Mattaes Phillipou (SA)
84cm – Toby McMullin (VIC M)
83cm – Mitch Szybkowski (VIC C)
83cm – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
83cm – Anthony Munkara (ALLIES)
83cm – Lachlan Cowan (ALLIES)

Agility ​

7.072sec – Darcy Jones (WA)
8.182sec – Jaxon Binns (VIC C)
8.217sec – Elijah Hewett (WA)
8.247sec – Steely Green (WA)
8.255sec – Edward Allan (WA)
8.267sec – Luke Teal (VIC M)
8.285sec – Toby McMullin (VIC M)
8.292sec – Jacob Konstanty (VIC C)
8.325sec – Harry Rowston (ALLIES)
8.343sec – Noah Long (VIC C)

20m Sprint ​

2.814sec – Edward Allan (WA)
2.880sec – Toby McMullin (VIC M)
2.883sec – Coby Burgiel (VIC C)
2.910sec – James Van Es (VIC C)
2.912sec – Darcy Jones (WA)
2.924sec – Olli Hotton (VIC M)
2.928sec – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
2.929sec – Cooper Vickery (VIC C)
2.937sec – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
2.951sec – Lloyd Johnston (ALLIES)

2km Time Trial​

5min 54sec – Ollie Hollands (VIC C)
5min 54sec – Jason Gillbee (ALLIES)
6min 00sec – Jaxon Binns (VIC C)
6min 03sec – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
6min 15sec – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
6min 16sec – Jakob Ryan (SA)
6min 17sec – Steely Green (WA)
6min 21sec – Will Dowling (SA)
6min 25sec – Blake Drury (VIC M)
6min 25sec – Seth Campbell (ALLIES)
6min 25sec – Mattaes Phillipou (SA)

 

[eDPS]

My bests for the metro and country trials

Game 1

Country

Reid
O’Sullivan
Mitchell
Lual
Nosiara
Burgiel

Metro

Clarke
Mackenzie
Drury
Pavlidis
Dozzi
Teal

Game 2

Country

Konstanty
Duursma
Binns
Tweedale
Clohesy
Collier

Metro

Watson
Badr
Davey
Pascu
Grant
Lawrence

 

[godogs2020]

First game in terms of standards for me seemed a lot higher especially the difference in the metro teams, the first metro team seemed a lot more balanced

 

[Mutineer]

My bests for the metro and country trials

Game 1

Country

Reid
O’Sullivan
Mitchell
Lual
Nosiara
Burgiel

Metro

Clarke
Mackenzie
Drury
Pavlidis
Dozzi
Teal

Game 2

Country

Konstanty
Duursma
Binns
Tweedale
Clohesy
Collier

Metro

Watson
Badr
Davey
Pascu
Grant
Lawrence

Archer Reid looks an exceptional talent this far out from his draft year.
Frangalis I liked a lot surprised he didn't make your bests?
Luamon Lual just keeps looking better and better every time I see him play.

Clarke and McKenzie super impressive, especially Clarke's work rate

 

[BuckleysChance]

My bests for the metro and country trials

Game 1

Country

Reid
O’Sullivan
Mitchell
Lual
Nosiara
Burgiel

Metro

Clarke
Mackenzie
Drury
Pavlidis
Dozzi
Teal

Game 2

Country

Konstanty
Duursma
Binns
Tweedale
Clohesy
Collier

Metro

Watson
Badr
Davey
Pascu
Grant
Lawrence

Mcmullin (Vic country game 1) looked dangerous. 3 classy goals and heaps of tackles.

 

[pushintheback]

I like watching the live streams but does my head in when the commentators continuously get the names wrong.

 

[slugger68]

Which of the boys from the original 50 VM squad didn’t play seemed like quite a few missing


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[PocketRocket08]

My bests for the metro and country trials

Game 1

Country

Reid
O’Sullivan
Mitchell
Lual
Nosiara
Burgiel

Metro

Clarke
Mackenzie
Drury
Pavlidis
Dozzi
Teal

Game 2

Country

Konstanty
Duursma
Binns
Tweedale
Clohesy
Collier

Metro

Watson
Badr
Davey
Pascu
Grant
Lawrence

Archer Reid looks an exceptional talent this far out from his draft year.
Frangalis I liked a lot surprised he didn't make your bests?
Luamon Lual just keeps looking better and better every time I see him play.

Clarke and McKenzie super impressive, especially Clarke's work rate

McKenzie I have really liked all season but for me Charlie Clarke stocks keep
Rising. Work Rate exceptional good leg speed. That contested mark and play on goal in the 3rd term was outstanding. Uses the ball well inside 50 also setting up many scoring shots/involvements. Drury & Teal we’re impressive. Smit & weathrill exciting prospects for next season.
Country I liked Caleb Mitch. Smooth mover and nice left foot. Archer Reid also impressive & mcmullin productive up fwd.

Second game.
VM Watson outstanding also caddy impressive leading patterns and work
Rate pascu hotton worked hard and had good moments. Hempel good in first half.
VC konstanty & duursma very classy up fwd Emile- Brennan used the ball well in the back.

 

[pushintheback]

I’ve only watched game one so far but my thoughts on the best as well as the best 2005 born.

Game 1

Country
Lual
Reid
O’Sullivan
Mitchell
Dow
2005 best Lual

Metro
Clarke
Mackenzie
Tomasiello
Drury
2005 best Philactides

 

[weltschmerz]

Lual better chill, he's a Dogs NGA kid

 

[LittleG]

Lual better chill, he's a Dogs NGA kid

He is too good for us.

 

[Davo-27]

1st game best imo

VM - McKenzie, Clarke, Jefferson, Witherill, Hayes, Teal, Ashwin, Kizan, Pavlidis, Tomasiello, Philactides, Nyko, Dozzi(ok), Drury(ok)

VC - Reid, Mitchell, McMullin, Frangalas, Murdoch, O'Sullivan, Lual, M.Clohesy(ok), Fogarty(ok), Parkhouse(ok)

Hugo Nosiara got it heaps, but ruined nearly every play by either being selfish or bad decision making, i wanted to like his game because he probably got it 30 times against an otherwise dominant VM midfield

this game felt like it had the better depth of quality of the 2 games

3 best players on the ground were McKenzie, Clarke and Reid, they were elite in nearly everything they did.

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2nd game

VM - Watson, Pascu, Hotton, Verrell, Morris, Caddy, Weddle, Davey, Taha, K.Windsor, Badr, D.Harvey, Camaniti(ok)

VC - T.Clohesy, Duursma, Schuback, Konstanty, Pearce, Campbell-Farell(ok), Binns(ok), Collier(ok)

Pascu got a heap of it and looked to be 1 of the main mids for this metro team, T.Clohesy dominated the midfield, he was similar to Clarke even down to his crew cut, contested beast and break away from center, Duursma was spraying some i50's in the first bit of the game, then he went forward and kicked a few goals giving country a goal kicking target up front, Konstanty kicked a couple in the 3rd to keep country in it, Watson did Watson things, kicked a few, Hotton was a valuable winger providing run and carry.

Watson, T.Clohesy and Duursma were the best few in this game, more top tier football than elite games from them imo.

 

[Davo-27]

This streamed anywhere/replay available?

edit - on Clutch it seems. Although, few of the players I'm most keen to check out (Wardlaw, Sheezel, Clark, etc) are playing. Why's that?

i went to the games, its on clutch, if you want to use that.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Allies intra today

My best from today

Allies ( south )

Anderson ( SYD)
Sanders ( TAS)
Grace (GWS)
Leary (TAS)
Alker ( SYD)
Cowan ( TAS)

Allies (north)

Corbett (GC)
Gilbee (?)
Johnson (NT)
Fletcher (BRIS)
Tedcastle (NT)
Cooper (BRIS)

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Is Konstanty being underrated on here? He looks like a tough, quick small forward who contributes in multiple ways.

His last month has been especially strong.

 

[eDPS]

Is Konstanty being underrated on here? He looks like a tough, quick small forward who contributes in multiple ways.

His last month has been especially strong.

More games like the one he had on Sunday and he will push into top 20 calculations

 

[PMBangers]

Is Konstanty being underrated on here? He looks like a tough, quick small forward who contributes in multiple ways.

His last month has been especially strong.

He's been pretty underwhelming when running through the midfield and it seems Gippsland wanted to persist with that for a lot of the early parts of the season, but with more time forward recently I'd be surprised if he doesn't continue doing well.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

He's been pretty underwhelming when running through the midfield and it seems Gippsland wanted to persist with that for a lot of the early parts of the season, but with more time forward recently I'd be surprised if he doesn't continue doing well.

I had assumed the opposite as he has started to get a lot more football recently. I thought he had been moving into the midfield instead of out of it.

 

[Gosaints12]

Cam McKenzie dominating for VM, vm up by 3pts at half time after dominating the first qtr and vc's big men dominating the 2nd qtr.

Archer Reid having a big game for Country so far, Stocks rising, there seems to be a scoring end and a non scoring end, vm starting strong in the 3rd, vm midfield seems too strong but Country finding a way around it.

Can’t believe we are gonna miss out on McKenzie, guttered.


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[TylerDurden]

How did Jerome Lawrence look?

 

[Mutineer]

How did Jerome Lawrence look?

Showed enough to get me interested, nice size and athletic.

 

[PMBangers]

How did Jerome Lawrence look?

Not as prolific as usual but was played further from goal than he does for Oakleigh, think he did well enough to warrant a final Metro Squad spot

 

[eDPS]

Game 1
VIC METRO

Cam Mackenzie – 32 disposals, 6 marks, 8 clearances, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal

Charlie Clarke – 28 disposals, 4 marks, 3 clearances, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal

Patrick Dozzi – 28 disposals, 6 marks, 5 clearances, 5 inside 50s, 1 goal

Jonathan Tomasiello – 26 disposals, 6 marks, 7 clearances, 5 inside 50s, 1 goal

Blake Drury – 23 disposals, 6 marks, 2 clearances, 3 inside 50s, 1 goal

Jaelen Pavlidis – 23 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 4 inside 50s, 1 goal

VIC COUNTRY

Jack O’Sullivan – 28 disposals, 3 marks, 5 clearances, 3 inside 50s, 1 goal

Sam Frangalas – 25 disposals, 6 marks, 1 clearance, 1 inside 50

Hugo Nosiara – 22 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 3 inside 50s

Archer Reid – 15 disposals, 12 marks, 5 inside-50s, 3 goals

Toby McMullin – 7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 inside-50, 3 goals

GAME 2
VIC METRO

Callum Verrell – 29 disposals, 13 marks, 1 clearance, 8 rebound 50s

Alwyn Davey

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

Jnr – 25 disposals, 4 marks, 5 clearances, 5 inside 50s

Jed Rule – 23 disposals, 10 marks, 4 rebound 50s

Paul Pascu – 22 disposals, 4 marks, 3 clearances, 5 rebound 50s

Josh Weddle – 22 disposals, 11 marks, 5 rebound 50s

Nick Watson – 13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 clearances, 4 goals

VIC COUNTRY

Jonti Schuback – 28 disposals, 2 marks, 1 clearance, 5 inside 50s

Zane Duursma – 25 disposals, 8 marks, 5 clearances, 7 inside 50s, 2 goals

Ted Clohesy – 22 disposals, 2 marks, 4 clearances, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal

Taj Campbell-Farrell – 21 disposals, 3 marks, 7 clearances, 2 inside 50s

Jacob Konstanty – 19 disposals, 4 marks, 4 inside 50s, 4 goals

 

[PMBangers]

Game 1
VIC METRO

Cam Mackenzie – 32 disposals, 6 marks, 8 clearances, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal

Charlie Clarke – 28 disposals, 4 marks, 3 clearances, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal

Patrick Dozzi – 28 disposals, 6 marks, 5 clearances, 5 inside 50s, 1 goal

Jonathan Tomasiello – 26 disposals, 6 marks, 7 clearances, 5 inside 50s, 1 goal

Blake Drury – 23 disposals, 6 marks, 2 clearances, 3 inside 50s, 1 goal

Jaelen Pavlidis – 23 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 4 inside 50s, 1 goal

VIC COUNTRY

Jack O’Sullivan – 28 disposals, 3 marks, 5 clearances, 3 inside 50s, 1 goal

Sam Frangalas – 25 disposals, 6 marks, 1 clearance, 1 inside 50

Hugo Nosiara – 22 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 3 inside 50s

Archer Reid – 15 disposals, 12 marks, 5 inside-50s, 3 goals

Toby McMullin – 7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 inside-50, 3 goals

GAME 2
VIC METRO

Callum Verrell – 29 disposals, 13 marks, 1 clearance, 8 rebound 50s

Alwyn Davey Jnr – 25 disposals, 4 marks, 5 clearances, 5 inside 50s

Jed Rule – 23 disposals, 10 marks, 4 rebound 50s

Paul Pascu – 22 disposals, 4 marks, 3 clearances, 5 rebound 50s

Josh Weddle – 22 disposals, 11 marks, 5 rebound 50s

Nick Watson – 13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 clearances, 4 goals

VIC COUNTRY

Jonti Schuback – 28 disposals, 2 marks, 1 clearance, 5 inside 50s

Zane Duursma – 25 disposals, 8 marks, 5 clearances, 7 inside 50s, 2 goals

Ted Clohesy – 22 disposals, 2 marks, 4 clearances, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal

Taj Campbell-Farrell – 21 disposals, 3 marks, 7 clearances, 2 inside 50s

Jacob Konstanty – 19 disposals, 4 marks, 4 inside 50s, 4 goals

How many goals did Riley Weatherill kick? Asking for a friend

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Game 1
VIC METRO

Cam Mackenzie – 32 disposals, 6 marks, 8 clearances, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal

Charlie Clarke – 28 disposals, 4 marks, 3 clearances, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal

Patrick Dozzi – 28 disposals, 6 marks, 5 clearances, 5 inside 50s, 1 goal

Jonathan Tomasiello – 26 disposals, 6 marks, 7 clearances, 5 inside 50s, 1 goal

Blake Drury – 23 disposals, 6 marks, 2 clearances, 3 inside 50s, 1 goal

Jaelen Pavlidis – 23 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 4 inside 50s, 1 goal

VIC COUNTRY

Jack O’Sullivan – 28 disposals, 3 marks, 5 clearances, 3 inside 50s, 1 goal

Sam Frangalas – 25 disposals, 6 marks, 1 clearance, 1 inside 50

Hugo Nosiara – 22 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 3 inside 50s

Archer Reid – 15 disposals, 12 marks, 5 inside-50s, 3 goals

Toby McMullin – 7 disposals, 1 mark, 1 inside-50, 3 goals

GAME 2
VIC METRO

Callum Verrell – 29 disposals, 13 marks, 1 clearance, 8 rebound 50s

Alwyn Davey Jnr – 25 disposals, 4 marks, 5 clearances, 5 inside 50s

Jed Rule – 23 disposals, 10 marks, 4 rebound 50s

Paul Pascu – 22 disposals, 4 marks, 3 clearances, 5 rebound 50s

Josh Weddle – 22 disposals, 11 marks, 5 rebound 50s

Nick Watson – 13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 clearances, 4 goals

VIC COUNTRY

Jonti Schuback – 28 disposals, 2 marks, 1 clearance, 5 inside 50s

Zane Duursma – 25 disposals, 8 marks, 5 clearances, 7 inside 50s, 2 goals

Ted Clohesy – 22 disposals, 2 marks, 4 clearances, 4 inside-50s, 1 goal

Taj Campbell-Farrell – 21 disposals, 3 marks, 7 clearances, 2 inside 50s

Jacob Konstanty – 19 disposals, 4 marks, 4 inside 50s, 4 goals

Do you have the numbers for Binns and Badr?

 

[eDPS]

Do you have the numbers for Binns and Badr?

Nope