Fantasy 2022 - EMPIRE League - Discussion

[Exe Gesis]

You could strike option 3 out of the vote. No one wants that. The main gripe was the 40 loss, which already got brought back. So its more a decision option 1 vs option 2

Option 1 3.5
Option 2 6.5

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Option 1... 3.5
tgbb, adp, drd23, shiny 1/2

Option 2... 5.5
lenny, peterbuch, stinger, bgt2110, shiny 1/2, dagless 1/2, arakaan 1/2

Option 3.... 1.0
arakaan 1/2, dagless 1/2

wru666 could be a vote for any of the three based on his comment.

I could vote for any of the three, havent decided. 1 is probably easiest decision and less painful, 2 is the better compromise as offense get 40 back, idps even, and errors fixed, 3 is the purer leveling, but can understand the backlash about offense loss.

Four voters left.

I think youre putting words in Dagless and Arakaan's mouth, much like you said I did for you. How about letting them speak for themselves

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

You could strike option 3 out of the vote. No one wants that. The main gripe was the 40 loss, which already got brought back. So its more a decision option 1 vs option 2

Option 1 3.5
Option 2 6.5

You did just yesterday. Makes changes without consulting then agrees soon after it was a shit idea.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Taking option 3 out so you can get a majority on 2. It's very slick. But I see what you're doing GG.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Blacky
BeinPurplenGreen
J Shuttlesworth
Dixie Flatline

to decide the future

Dixie didn’t want change going by reply to dagless

Option 1... 4.5
tgbb, adp, drd23, Dixie, shiny 1/2

Option 2... 4.5
lenny, peterbuch, stinger, bgt2110, shiny 1/2,

dagless, arakaan - revote

 

[Exe Gesis]

I dont think 3 is a shit idea, just unfortunate....it was an error the whole time but caused too much angst for O. So the hybrid is a good compromise.

People getting too angry and emotional about it all. I dont care whether 1 or 2 or 3 goes in.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

I dont think 3 is a shit idea, just unfortunate....it was an error the whole time but caused too much angst for O. So the hybrid is a good compromise.

People getting too angry and emotional about it all. I dont care whether 1 or 2 or 3 goes in.

Well if you withdraw your proposal no need to vote.

Why don’t you start another league made up of defence and (your latest suggestion before this one) OL.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Dixie didn’t want change going by reply to dagless

You're probably right, but I'll let people speak for themselves after GG said I was doing that for him.

It's got to the stage now where I'm beginning not to care. Its ruined the league vibes.

 

[J Shuttlesworth]

I think we pause and go back with Option 1 for now.

Happy for changes or 'fixes' to come in down the track.

In my opinion though, need them to be raised loud and clear after the season ends, before interest wanes and prior to any roster decision periods and voted on. Not saying these weren't raised at all, but the actual results are only being properly discovered late.

There's enough fat in the off season schedule for some voting and tinkering, and if required a transitional period if the changes have a large effect on postional weighting etc.

 

[Exe Gesis]

I think we pause and go back with Option 1 for now.

Happy for changes or 'fixes' to come in down the track.

In my opinion though, need them to be raised loud and clear after the season ends, before interest wanes and prior to any roster decision periods and voted on. Not saying these weren't raised at all, but the actual results are only being properly discovered late.

There's enough fat in the off season schedule for some voting and tinkering, and if required a transitional period if the changes have a large effect on postional weighting etc.

Smartest and calmest guy in the room

 

[J Shuttlesworth]

Smartest and calmest guy in the room

Let's not get crazy

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

In other news everyone cares far less about, MFL have moved MJ Stewart to safety from cornerback, cheers campaigners, couldn't have done that two weeks earlier before I bid on him

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

AND Christian Wilkins in now a DE?? What the actual ****. FAAAAAANTASTIC

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Been a quite a few moves around the DL looking over everyone's rosters, what were DTs are now DEs, what were DEs are now LBs

 

[Exe Gesis]

The following player position changes will be made on Friday, May 13th, to bring our player database up-to-date with the FantasySharks.com depth charts:

• ARI: Myjai Sanders from DE to LB
• ARI: Ron'Dell Carter from DE to LB
• ARI: Michael Dogbe from DE to DT
• ARI: Matt Dickerson from DE to DT
• ARI: Zach Allen from DE to DT
• ATL: Arnold Ebiketie from DE to LB
• ATL: DeAngelo Malone from DE to LB
• BAL: Justin Madubuike from DT to DE
• BAL: Calais Campbell from DE to DT
• BAL: Isaiah Mack from DE to DT
• BAL: David Ojabo from DE to LB
• BUF: Von Miller from LB to DE
• BUF: Jordan Phillips from DE to DT
• CHI: Charles Snowden from LB to DE
• CHI: Sam Kamara from LB to DE
• CHI: Margus Hunt from DE to DT
• CHI: Akiem Hicks from DE to DT
• CHI: Mario Edwards from DE to DT
• CHI: Angelo Blackson from DE to DT
• CHI: Jeremiah Attaochu from LB to DE
• CHI: Robert Quinn from LB to DE
• CLE: Chase Winovich from LB to DE
• DEN: Randy Gregory from DE to LB
• DEN: Kendall Hinton from WR to QB
• DET: Bobby Price from S to CB
• GB : Devonte Wyatt from DT to DE
• GB : Kingsley Enagbare from DE to LB
• GB : Jarran Reed from DT to DE
• HOU: Ogbonnia Okoronkwo from LB to DE
• HOU: M.J. Stewart from CB to S
• IND: Marvell Tell from S to CB
• IND: RJ McIntosh from DE to DT
• JAX: K'Lavon Chaisson from DE to LB
• JAX: Arden Key from DE to LB
• JAX: Roy Robertson-Harris from DT to DE
• JAX: Josh Allen from DE to LB
• JAX: Travon Walker from DT to DE
• KC : Lonnie Johnson from S to CB
• LAC: Chris Rumph from DE to LB
• LAC: Jerry Tillery from DT to DE
• LAC: Joey Bosa from DE to LB
• LAC: Christian Covington from DT to DE
• LAC: Andrew Brown from DT to DE
• LAR: Greg Gaines from DE to DT
• LAR: A'Shawn Robinson from DT to DE
• LAR: Marquise Copeland from DT to DE
• LAR: Bobby Brown from DT to DE
• LVR: Maxx Crosby from DE to LB
• LVR: Darius Philon from DE to DT
• LVR: Neil Farrell from DT to DE
• LVR: Bilal Nichols from DT to DE
• LVR: Clelin Ferrell from DE to LB
• LVR: Sutton Smith from RB to LB
• LVR: Vernon Butler from DT to DE
• LVR: Kendal Vickers from DT to DE
• LVR: Divine Deablo from S to LB
• MIA: Jaelan Phillips from DE to LB
• MIA: Christian Wilkins from DT to DE
• MIA: Adam Butler from DT to DE
• MIN: Camryn Bynum from CB to S
• MIN: D.J. Wonnum from DE to LB
• MIN: Kenny Willekes from DE to LB
• MIN: Janarius Robinson from DE to LB
• MIN: Harrison Phillips from DT to DE
• MIN: James Lynch from DT to DE
• MIN: Esezi Otomewo from DT to DE
• MIN: Danielle Hunter from DE to LB
• MIN: Patrick Jones from DE to LB
• NO : Taysom Hill from QB to TE
• NO : Jalyn Holmes from DE to DT
• NO : Jordan Jackson from DT to DE
• NO : Kentavius Street from DE to DT
• NO : Christian Ringo from DE to DT
• NYG: Elerson Smith from DE to LB
• NYG: Trent Harris from DE to LB
• NYG: Kayvon Thibodeaux from DE to LB
• NYG: Oshane Ximines from DE to LB
• NYJ: Micheal Clemons from DT to DE
• NYJ: Michael Carter from S to CB
• PHI: Haason Reddick from DE to LB
• PHI: Kyron Johnson from DE to LB
• PIT: Carlos Davis from DE to DT
• PIT: Montravius Adams from DE to DT
• PIT: Cameron Heyward from DE to DT
• PIT: Henry Mondeaux from DE to DT
• SEA: Myles Adams from DT to DE
• SF : Samson Ebukam from LB to DE
• SF : Arik Armstead from DE to DT
• TB : Andre Anthony from DE to LB
• TB: Keanu Neal from LB to S
• TB : Rakeem Nunez-Roches from DT to DE
• TEN: Da'Shawn Hand from DT to DE
• TEN: Kevin Strong from DT to DE
• WAS: Troy Apke from S to CB

 

[Exe Gesis]

Thats messed up my DT/DE/LB depth chart.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I'm ****ed up at DT now, never would have traded Ed Oliver if I knew that Wilkins move was on the horizon. Oh well.

 

[J Shuttlesworth]

Thats messed up my DT/DE/LB depth chart.

Yeah not ideal

Lots of prominent players from DE to LB.

 

[J Shuttlesworth]

With that said, looks like i'm in the DE/DT market.

Have some LBs and picks available.

 

[drd23]

Would be far better if there was a DI vs EDGE option

 

[00Stinger]

Joey Bosa to LB makes him practically useless for me in my depth charts

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Joey Bosa to LB makes him practically useless for me in my depth charts

Yea terrible position swap that one for team balance

 

[Exe Gesis]

New IDP scoring helps offset the positional changes MFL makes more than the old scoring did. More a depth chart issue for individual owners to try fix....2 DEs and 6 LBs now instead of 4 and 4.

Previously, LB/DE were harshly scored, 100-150 range. DT 150-200, CB/S, 120-160...say. Now theyre all in that 150-200 range (the middle: average to good)

Joey Bosa as DE (2021 scoring)...133

Joey Bosa as DE and LB (2022 scoring)....179 / 172

Same for all of us, if we had a good player at DE or DT who is now DT or LB, it shouldnt render them useless to keep no matter the constant MFL position changes back and forth each year

 

[Exe Gesis]

I could now keep Bilal Nichols whom i auctioned for as DE tho i grabbed him as a DT. Previously, id have to just cut him, now i can keep him because he should still score fairly similarly now as a DT or DE for a player of his caliber -- the type of stats he gets and the regularity of them vs other DTs and DEs of his caliber

DT and DE score more similar to each other now. And where a DE and LB score differently with tackles/hits/sacks/TFLs, is better balanced (the drop here is a rise there) and vice versa if a say Von Miller previously a LB is now a DE.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Just wish it was the same as what drd said, would make things far less annoying. Fleaflicker have edge and IDL