Trades 2022 Fantasy - Round 7 Trades

[davosowl]

If you can imagine a world where you need to trade out rozee in a couple of weeks barring injury.... then dont do it.... you dont want to be wasting trades in the future trying to sort out the rozee situation... personally i think its an unecessary risk.

Cheers mate. Yeah Rozee comes with a fair bit of risk, but lots of upside if it works out - seems like he's either a 60 playing forward or 100+ playing mid. Plus there's the added bonus of ditching Macdonald before he starts to slide. I don't mind if I can only keep him for 3 weeks.

But then I just really want to get Cripps too...

 

[Balsam]

Hayes to Clark and Foley out gets me to $745k but can really only target defenders (prefer NOD on the bench rather than D6).

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Vlastuin????

I'm currently looking at Hayes and Rachelle out for Clark and Vlastuin (via some fancy DPP work)

 

[Cm Perfect]

Hayes to Clark and Foley out gets me to $745k but can really only target defenders (prefer NOD on the bench rather than D6).

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You have some nice options there:

1. Foley - Clark, bank the $300K before Foley starts losing money. Play NOD at D6 for a week and just cop whatever he dishes up (he is high ownership so shouldn't affect rank too much). Loop Clark and JHF at M8 using Soligo or Mead. Then Hayes - Strnadica for ultimate cash gen (you would hope he keeps his spot when Dixon/Allen return, and your UTE spot would be clogged up by a ruck). Half a mill to spend next week.

2. Hayes - Clark then Foley - Vlastuin as your D6. Nice easy game this week and low BE.

3. Hayes - Clark then Foley - Rozee to ride his price rise. You'd field him over Xerri/JHF and hope he continues his mid role.

4. Hayes - Clark then Foley - Noah Anderson via NOD to D6. You have exact money to do that.

5. M. Crouch - Clark, Foley - any defender you like (Docherty, Crisp etc.) and leave yourself some cash for next week. Loop Clark/NOD at M8 and move JHF to M7. I like that one.

 

[kozi]

Going back and forth over Rozee a bit.

The move would strictly be to ride his price up and he'll require another trade when he peaks. It's one of those where if he tonnes next week he'll likely be worth it as that really sets up his cash gen. But if he drops a 70 likely only makes 100k over the next few weeks and you've just created another issue for nothing.

He'll play midfield for the next few weeks at least.. it's just about the confidence levels that he backs it up against Saints and Dogs next 2.

tl;dr I'm not that confident

 

[mrpig]

Going back and forth over Rozee a bit.

The move would strictly be to ride his price up as he'll still require a trade when he peaks. It's one of those where if he tonnes again next week he'll be worth it as that really sets up his cash gen. But if he drops a 70 likely only makes 100k over the next few weeks and you've just created another issue for nothing.

He'll play midfield for the next few weeks at least.. it's just about the confidence levels that he backs it up against Saints and Dogs next 2.

tl;dr I'm not that confident

At this point though i dont wanna be using multiple trades to upgrade a fwd... i really just want to set and forget and move onto another issue in my team.... and who knows.. the week you need to trade rozeee, you may have other issues and so you wont be able to address the rozeee issue

I'd persoanlly only bring him in if you see him as a premium fwd, that you dont have to trade again in the future, otherwise ive got other positions and other players i gotta upgrade

 

[Cm Perfect]

Going back and forth over Rozee a bit.

The move would strictly be to ride his price up and he'll require another trade when he peaks. It's one of those where if he tonnes next week he'll likely be worth it as that really sets up his cash gen. But if he drops a 70 likely only makes 100k over the next few weeks and you've just created another issue for nothing.

He'll play midfield for the next few weeks at least.. it's just about the confidence levels that he backs it up against Saints and Dogs next 2.

tl;dr I'm not that confident

What are your thoughts on Vlastuin mate? Looked a million bucks against the Dees, and was decent the previous week too after missing the opening month. Are we ignoring a top 6 DEF staring us in the face, or is it just a phase that will soon revert back to standard mid-price scores?

 

[kozi]

At this point though i dont wanna be using multiple trades to upgrade a fwd... i really just want to set and forget and move onto another issue in my team.... and who knows.. the week you need to trade rozeee, you may have other issues and so you wont be able to address the rozeee issue

I'd persoanlly only bring him in if you see him as a premium fwd, that you dont have to trade again in the future, otherwise ive got other positions and other players i gotta upgrade

I guess that's where the $ value of trades comes into it. If you sideways Xerri to him and he carries on making 200k+ then you eventually sideways him to a fallen Taranto the $ generated would be somewhat equal to the value of the 2 trades used.

Don't forget the average rook makes less than that and we use 2 trades on them regardless.

 

[kozi]

What are your thoughts on Vlastuin mate? Looked a million bucks against the Dees, and was decent the previous week too after missing the opening month. Are we ignoring a top 6 DEF staring us in the face, or is it just a phase that will soon revert back to standard mid-price scores?

He's looked great. In a fantasy sense it would be a weird breakout this late into his career though. I'd be surprised if he averaged over 90 from here

 

[mrpig]

I guess that's where the $ value of trades comes into it. If you sideways Xerri to him and he carries on making 200k+ then you eventually sideways him to a fallen Taranto the $ generated would be somewhat equal to the value of the 2 trades used.

Don't forget the average rook makes less than that and we use 2 trades on them regardless.

Yeh I agree completely that’s a possibility
Just if it doesn’t happen, you need another trade to bank the cash, and suddenly you’ve used 2 when you could have just upgraded Xerri with a rookie downgrade

There is a world where Hinkley just puts boak back in the middle and also butters
I just feel like it’s an unnecessary risk to take

But obviously if rozee plays well the next few weeks it’s worth it, I just would rather bring in a certain premium, and then a rookie that can cash gen for 4-5 weeks, feel like it’s a safer way to go about upgrading

 

[mockingbeat]

Foley to Clark
Rachelle to Cripps

 

[kozi]

Yeh I agree completely that’s a possibility
Just if it doesn’t happen, you need another trade to bank the cash, and suddenly you’ve used 2 when you could have just upgraded Xerri with a rookie downgrade

There is a world where Hinkley just puts boak back in the middle and also butters
I just feel like it’s an unnecessary risk to take

But obviously if rozee plays well the next few weeks it’s worth it, I just would rather bring in a certain premium, and then a rookie that can cash gen for 4-5 weeks, feel like it’s a safer way to go about upgrading

Good points and similar thoughts here. I rarely go the "stepping stone" route, although the temptation is definitely there given the potential. Also the forward upgrade options are far from clear cut at the minute so I guess it would be used as a bit of a wait and see on Taranto, English, Duncan etc. Certainly is a murky one.

 

[mrpig]

Good points and similar thoughts here. I rarely go the "stepping stone" route, although the temptation is definitely there given the potential. Also the forward upgrade options are far from clear cut at the minute so I guess it would be used as a bit of a wait and see on Taranto, English, Duncan etc. Certainly is a murky one.

honestly this is why ive given up on the fwds, until i know who exactly is a certain upgrade there (really worried about how they use taranto going forward), i'm focusing on upgrading positions of people i know are certain locks.

Maybe Butters -> Rozee is a good trade
Maybe Xerri -> Taranto is a shocking trade (thanks leon)
Maybe Xerri -> Rozee is a shocking trade and rozee goes to the fwdline again

Until i know wth is going on... just gonna stick to upgrading JHF -> Wines/touk/tracca, at least i know thats a certain win (injuries not included)

 

[Freo_4eva]

Initial thoughts.. hayes>Clark and then either JHF to the likes of Stewart or JDG

Or move a guy like brodie a little early up to an Oliver type

 

[samFFC]

I am a frustrated Butters owner but
1. Is he really the priority? He is a forward not taking a mid spot
2. What are we really taking from Rozee’s game given it was with Butters off and against the pitiful Eagles?

 

[samFFC]

Driscoll, JHF, Xerri and Martin are my 4 on field rooks.Id like to move one on this week, which one?

O’Driscoll and Martin easily clearing their BE so not them.
Depends on your bench situation.
If you have a bench ruckman then Xerri could move on.
I’ve benched JHF last week so probably moving him and holding Xerri another week.

 

[Calebs Shlong]

Downgrade upgrade. I was choosing between JDG and Treloar but Jordan’s low ownership wins it for me. I like his role too he basically has the license to roam all over the ground and isn’t spending much time up fwd.

Not trading butters, I refuse to sideways trade, he will come good he had excuses on the weekend. Sucks that he played but at least he’s not injured and will still play.

 

[Calebs Shlong]

I am a frustrated Butters owner but
1. Is he really the priority? He is a forward not taking a mid spot
2. What are we really taking from Rozee’s game given it was with Butters off and against the pitiful Eagles?

Hold him, fix up other areas. He will come good, he had obvious excuses this weekend.

Fix up rookies, so many teams I see have 3-4 red dots and SDK, PMC and other rooks that won’t generate anything.

 

[Calebs Shlong]

I see so many teams with 4-5 non playing rookies that have made no money. This is gonna seriously screw them come bye rounds when you can upgrade JHF, Xerri to anyone good.

A double downgrade week bank some cash and get some cash Gen for the next 4-5 weeks is really important right now.

 

[Corkintheocean]

I am a frustrated Butters owner but
1. Is he really the priority? He is a forward not taking a mid spot
2. What are we really taking from Rozee’s game given it was with Butters off and against the pitiful Eagles?

A massive % of the top 5k have Butters. I think you're more likely to be burnt getting off him than staying on.

His ceiling is there, and Port have been playing much better in recent weeks. They love to control/overpossess the ball too with that forward press. Their last four H&A games are about as good as it gets (Coll, Rich, Ess, Adel), so if he stabilises in the next couple of weeks, could be junking it bigtime on the way home (especially if/once they mathematically miss finals and Ken turfs Boak and hands him the keys to the midfield).

 

[mrpig]

I see so many teams with 4-5 non playing rookies that have made no money. This is gonna seriously screw them come bye rounds when you can upgrade JHF, Xerri to anyone good.

A double downgrade week bank some cash and get some cash Gen for the next 4-5 weeks is really important right now.

Yes and no

The way this year has gone.... cash gen might not be a problem

JHF, Rachele, Xerri, Ward, NOD, J.Hayes, Nick Martin have all been common selection and all generated decent cash

Brodie, Preuss, Daicos (maybe nick martin)

Are all looking like keepers in their position

As such, the way my team stands, i only have 3 more upgrades to go, where i'm needing to upgrade rookies (Xerri, NOD, Hobbs)
The rest of my team is pretty much set, and thats with just my starting rookies cash gen

Honestly, i'm not sure cash gen is an issue this year... but just imo

 

[kozi]

Yeah bench cash gen doesn't seem to be an issue to the point where you waste a week to fix 2 rooks. Just going normal down/ups every week from here gets me to a completed team all whilst completely ignoring the few bench spuds.

 

[Corkintheocean]

If Bailey Williams is dropped for a returning Dixon this week, does anyone think it is viable to run a job secure Strnadica at the utility position (S.Hayes as R3 in this scenario)?

Pro: Aside from Greg Clark, he may be one of the best cash cows remaining for the season.

Obvious Con: It denies a certain level of flexibility.

However as the season goes on and our field fills with premiums, the need for this flexibility declines. Has anyone had any positive/negative experiences with this in prior seasons?

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

It's an interesting point. If I do my Rachele/Hayes trade to Oliver I have thought about future weeks and there's really no one earning good cash on my bench. Durdin stalled, Mead out, Dixon, McCartin, Sam Hayes has ages to go, etc.

Rozee is the one for me. More mid time and back to back 100's with a BE of 10. Rachele/Hayes to Clark and Rozee leaves me 333k to upgrade JHF to a Tracc next week. And the bonus of having Rozee earning money. Less on field points this week but long term it's probably a better move if Rozee can keep producing a few good scores.

McInerney and Ladhams too expensive now.

I think its a good tactic. Then downgrade one of the slow burn rookies and upgrade rozee into a premium. Plus if Rachelle is onfield, you have increased your onfield average from Rachelles 60 to Rozees possible 90+

 

[Cotchy9]

Do any Carlton fans think Durdin will hold?

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Feel bad for the bloke but Hayes going down in the first qtr really screwed my planed Answorth trade!

Had planned to move him on for Dawson or Stewart as need a rnd 13 backline premo but now I’m 20k short due to missing his price rise!

Couldn’t he have held together for just one more week!

Then to make it worse as he lost 2k, I’m also 2k short of going Rich