MRP / Trib. 2022 - MRO Chook Lotto - Carlton Tribunal News & Reports

[Kaladin Stormblessed]

Who's on the appeals board?

Former players or judges/magistrates?

 

[juzza316]

Who's on the appeals board?

Former players or judges/magistrates?

Hopefully Sticks, Rhys Jones and Diesel

 

[Blue and Silver]

So as a layman, my understanding is that Townsend is arguing that there was an error of law ie: the process was inappropriately conducted

AND

That the decision was unreasonable as it held two contradictory things occurred simultaneously. That Cripps both contested the ball and bumped

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[Blue and Silver]

Either is grounds for an overturn. Although I am not sure if the first would be a let off, ie: they could find there was an error and Cripps guilty anyway

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[Aphrodite]

Townshend (Carlton) says "there's no basis in the open hearing for the Tribunal's determination that Cripps' conduct was a bump, especially in light of the Tribunal's declaration this was a genuine contest."

 

[Wickzki]

Townsend has a massive point there.

 

[jooce8891]

townshend has been speaking for over an hour and a half.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Hopefully Sticks, Rhys Jones and Diesel

No way Rhys & Diesel would be in the same room..... they might get distracted....

 

[Neese]

I am loving this

 

[ESKIE]

I am loving this

 

[Aphrodite]

I am loving this

Me three

 

[Aphrodite]

Here we go ...

After one hour and 55 minutes, Townshend (Carlton) has concluded his submissions.


Over to Nicholas Pane QC for the AFL's submissions.

 

[Wickzki]

People have been posting for years that they want the club to be ballsy. Regardless of outcome they've given it their all here.

 

[Blue and Silver]

I mean the whole tribunal process is a bit of a farce. Just feels and vibes most of the time

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[bradfisher14]

Can we get Townshend in the guts on Saturday? Showing more ticker than most of our team has over the past fortnight tbh.

 

[Kaladin Stormblessed]

Either is grounds for an overturn. Although I am not sure if the first would be a let off, ie: they could find there was an error and Cripps guilty anyway

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Not sure either are grounds for an overturn.

"Manifestly incorrect decision" is an extremely high bar to prove in legal cases. You almost have to argue that the tribunal decided the sky was yellow when it was a cloudy blue.

 

[AndyWalkersGirl]

People have been posting for years that they want the club to be ballsy. Regardless of outcome they've given it their all here.

This. Spot on.

 

[Kaladin Stormblessed]

People have been posting for years that they want the club to be ballsy. Regardless of outcome they've given it their all here.

Yeah shame that if the players showed half this desperation on Sunday we might have had a different result / Cripps may not have even needed to "make a statement"

 

[jezzajay]

Pane (AFL) submits ‘…it isn't fair…’
Lol…kids today!!

 

[Aphrodite]

Pane (AFL) submits it isn't fair for the Appeals Board to look at the Tribunal's brief summary of reasons for the decision as 'complete reasons' for the decision.

Pane (AFL) says that a player CAN contest the ball with his eyes on the ball and still be in the action of bumping an opponent, something Townshend (Carlton) disputes.

 

[F_therest]

townshend has been speaking for over an hour and a half.

Maybe the plan is to talk for so long and bombard them with info that they'll eventually intervene and rule in Cripps' favour just to get him to shut up so they can go home.

 

[dylan_mike1]

People have been posting for years that they want the club to be ballsy. Regardless of outcome they've given it their all here.

I think Will Hayes has learnt a life lesson. We are all equal, but some are more equal than others.

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[Aphrodite]

Getting some questions regarding Cripps' attendance.

It doesn't look like he's part of tonight's proceedings.

Because of that, he is the true winner from tonight.

 

[Blue__Balls]

"Pane (AFL) submits it isn't fair for the Appeals Board to look at the Tribunal's brief summary of reasons for the decision as 'complete reasons' for the decision."

That's the defense? We can't argue against the stated reasons because the panel might have had other reasons they didn't mention?

Between this guy and Gleeson, the only way you could explain them winning any appeal is that the outcomes are predetermined, because the cases they make are absolute garbage.

 

[Blue4Life]

Pane (AFL) says that a player CAN contest the ball with his eyes on the ball and still be in the action of bumping an opponent, something Townshend (Carlton) disputes.

That’s ridiculous…isn’t this afl not netball?