Hot Topic Carlton 2024 Trade Discussion

[Christou2Kouta]

100%. It makes no sense that if a whole bunch of free agents are flipping clubs then clubs that have nothing to do with it suddenly have worse draft picks.


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Exhibit A - St Kilda getting pick 8 for Josh Battle's departure. We've just been bumped down a pick because an uncontracted player chose to play at a different club.

Hawthorn should lose the equivalent value for gaining Battle.

 

[GoBlues!]

Exhibit A - St Kilda getting pick 8 for Josh Battle's departure. We've just been bumped down a pick because an uncontracted player chose to play at a different club.

Hawthorn should lose the equivalent value for gaining Battle.

Can someone remind me why a club gets rewarded when an uncontracted player leaves that club.

If that club can’t provide an environment to retain the player with a new contract then why tf should they get compensation?

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

The only silver lining is that SOS couldn’t draft a midfield prospect to save himself. I’m sure he will butcher it.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Can someone remind me why a club gets rewarded when an uncontracted player leaves that club.

If that club can’t provide an environment to retain the player with a new contract then why tf should they get compensation?

I think compensation for losing players along with the salary cap, the soft cap and the draft all contribute to the evenness of the competition. You could argue that the multi-prong approach is overkill and the salary cap and draft should be sufficient, but it's so important to the health of the competition that all clubs are competitive every year that it's a risk to remove one of these levers.

I just think the compensation process is arbitrary and not fit for purpose. Free agents are inflationary and in the context of a salary cap, having a few players taking excessive salaries because they can come without any other costs means there is less money for the rest of the squad.

All uncontracted players should be able to leave for the club of their choice.
Compensation should be based on an average of their previous and new contracts. "Draft points" should be removed from the club gaining the player and awarded to the club they are coming from.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Can someone remind me why a club gets rewarded when an uncontracted player leaves that club.

If that club can’t provide an environment to retain the player with a new contract then why tf should they get compensation?

I don't follow other sports, do they have a similar compensation racket in NFL?
The AFL seems to be modelling our game on the american ways, to extend media interest.

 

[SafeAsMilk]

Why no interest in Owies?

 

[Arr0w]

Why no interest in Owies?

Salary and terms he is looking for is too expensive for a role playing forward

 

[Prem17]

Thoughts on Curtis Taylor

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Curtis Taylor

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, the ex Roo?
Only 24, 76 games for a struggling club.
Seemed to start his career well but has struggled with injury this year.

Haven't seen much of North games recently to know much about where he's at.

 

[Bennyboy7777]

What the hell happened to Denver Grainger-Barras? Rated the best key backman in the 2020 draft - pick 6. Could leave Hawks for a bag of chips. I’ve done minimal reading about his time at the hawks. What I’ve gleaned is that hasn’t been fit enough and maybe isn’t suited to locking down on key forwards; he’s more of an interceptor. Would he be worth a punt on? Many of you here would have a far better idea about this kid than I would, can you enlighten me?

 

[JJBagger]

Thoughts on Curtis Taylor, the ex Roo?
Only 24, 76 games for a struggling club.
Seemed to start his career well but has struggled with injury this year.

Haven't seen much of North games recently to know much about where he's at.

I remember when he was drafted hearing issues around his training standards. Could potentially still be an issue?

 

[Doro]

What the hell happened to Denver Grainger-Barras? Rated the best key backman in the 2020 draft - pick 6. Could leave Hawks for a bag of chips. I’ve done minimal reading about his time at the hawks. What I’ve gleaned is that hasn’t been fit enough and maybe isn’t suited to locking down on key forwards; he’s more of an interceptor. Would he be worth a punt on? Many of you here would have a far better idea about this kid than I would, can you enlighten me?

The Hawks trading tells the biggest story. Don't think he's up to it.

 

[Thrawn]

What the hell happened to Denver Grainger-Barras?

I've never heard of that wine before.

 

[BluesForever24]

Why no interest in Owies?

Some might think he’s slow, gives below average defensive pressure and could be tougher?
Great kick for goal

 

[BolshyAust]

Thoughts on Curtis Taylor, the ex Roo?
Only 24, 76 games for a struggling club.
Seemed to start his career well but has struggled with injury this year.

Haven't seen much of North games recently to know much about where he's at.

From a mate who knows North well -

"Some attributes, can mark and seemed to have been given license to kick into the corridor (which I hardly ever saw work) and I'd reference to good endurance but never in top distance covered even from the wing. Overall his best is ok, his average isn't great and his bad is terrible. "

 

[bluesDeluxe]

Why no interest in Owies?

Will be DFA

 

[Aphrodite]

Will be DFA

We could still re-sign him for 1yr if there is no interest.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

We could still re-sign him for 1yr if there is no interest.

Club aren’t wanting him on the list

 

[Aphrodite]

Club aren’t wanting him on the list

Just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[SafeAsMilk]

Will be DFA

That's bizarre given our lack of small forwards

 

[Bletch]

Club aren’t wanting him on the list

Rumoured we have a 2-year deal on the table, but it's low-ball, with suggestion for him to look around if he wants more. By the sounds of it, that's not gonna happen.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Rumoured we have a 2-year deal on the table, but it's low-ball, with suggestion for him to look around if he wants more. By the sounds of it, that's not gonna happen.

Pretty sure that rumour is incorrect. My understanding is we have not offered Owies a contract

 

[bluesDeluxe]

Just have to wait and see what happens.

Need to clear 2 more list spots. Can't see him being there.

I would delist fantasia and maybe re rookie to free up a spot.

 

[SafeAsMilk]

Need to clear 2 more list spots. Can't see him being there.

I would delist fantasia and maybe re rookie to free up a spot.

2 more? Who is even coming in besides Haynes and the Campo twins?

 

[Coona Blues]

2 more? Who is even coming in besides Haynes and the Campo twins?

We need a spot to promote Boyd to the main list. We currently have three main list vacancies.

1 for Haynes
1 for Boyd
1 for current first round draftee
1 for Ben Camporeale
1 (likely) for Lucas Camporeale.

To do that we need to move two more players on. That is before doing any of the wild trades mooted on here or potentially trading our future first in for another prime pick OR to facilitate ANY trade.

There are possibilities of moving a contracted player or two to the rookie list to create space, but the process is a risky one.
The other method would be to alter the ratio of main list players to rookie players, which has salary cap ramifications. We currently run with six rookies, can reduce by up to two and make those spots available in the main list. This is far from a desirable outcome for many reasons.

 

[GoBlues!]

Race for Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

, I didn’t realise we were in a race….has someone told Austin.​

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AFL trade news: Collingwood aims to trump Carlton in race for Port Adelaide star Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

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Look away now Blues fans. Carlton’s chances of landing Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

were already drifting — now the club’s biggest rival is ready to take advantage of friction between the Blues and Port Adelaide.​

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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-news-collingwood-aims-to-trump-carlton-in-race-for-port-adelaide-star-dan-houston/news-story/8f357a59d4964fc29e027e1da7f96807?amp

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