List Mgmt. 2022 Senior List - The Final TWO Spots

[BrisbaneBlue]

Sides have shown they can adapt without a premier or recognised ruckman. Not having KPDs to take on the opposition's key forwards however, isn't going to get you far.

Our side needs a ruckman to ensure the opposing ruckman doesn't hit to advantage. Our side has a game plan which requires dominance from the midfield. We are very different to Richmond who launch attacks based on defensive transition. That is not our gig. We would need to adapt our gameplan if we are not competitive in the ruck. Using Jack, Cripps etc gives us another look, but is not sustainable and we struggle later in games when TDK has been worked over and doesn't at least halve the contests. We definitely need KPDs as well, but we need players who are adapotable to competantly fill gaps.

 

[BlackGoanna]

Warming to Durdin.

Admittingly did not follow his progress out of Nth. Was a highly regarded Junior who may have matured.

Looking at his SANFL stats. They stack up for a key back, with a high disposal efficiency.

Question whether he is a Young type. Tall, reasonable skills, lacks some strength, urgency. Or whether he potentially has a higher ceiling?

We are not strongly linked to a Ruck ATM, which is concerning. Looks to be a few available that may get taken before our picks. We absolutely need cover in the Ruck

 

[Bostonian]

Why not hold this draft on the Monday so players can potentially start training with clubs on the Tuesday. If a team was really needing that player it gives them some time to get then up to speed.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Derksen almost certain to be gone, leaving Teakle as the most likely if others don’t “reach” early.

Unless....

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[Coops93]

Warming to Durdin.

Admittingly did not follow his progress out of Nth. Was a highly regarded Junior who may have matured.

Looking at his SANFL stats. They stack up for a key back, with a high disposal efficiency.

Question whether he is a Young type. Tall, reasonable skills, lacks some strength, urgency. Or whether he potentially has a higher ceiling?

We are not strongly linked to a Ruck ATM, which is concerning. Looks to be a few available that may get taken before our picks. We absolutely need cover in the Ruck

Thinking the same. Initially I was quite meh about him, but now I've come around.

On paper he seems to have a lot of pieces to work with, wonder if he's finally put it together.

 

[Arr0w]

You pushing JSOS to the ressies or backline?

That has always been my concern with the setup I prefer, Jsos could be squeezed out of the side like someone like Weidemann, but there are always bench spots, injuries, form slumps

 

[skadoosh]

That has always been my concern with the setup I prefer, Jsos could be squeezed out of the side like someone like Weidemann, but there are always bench spots, injuries, form slumps

What areas would you need JSOS to improve for him to stay in your team?

 

[zeeCFC]

That has always been my concern with the setup I prefer, Jsos could be squeezed out of the side like someone like Weidemann, but there are always bench spots, injuries, form slumps

JSOS will always be best 22 due to his smarts and effort. In our top 3 pure footballers

 

[therubbernub]

Hilarious reading the number of posts expecting us to just pick a KPD to replace weitering.
Do people realise how crazy optimistic it sounds, expecting to pluck a diamond out of the overlooked players, that are somehow going to be selected by us at pick 13,and come in and replace any of our key defenders. Lunacy

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[Coops93]

Is it really that likely that someone projected to go at pick 2 ends up sliding to pick 13/20?

Could be. It's not like the normal draft, there's much more drafting for need and specific people than drafting for the future.

It's not as though we're talking about blue chip talents, it's more about fixing holes than can't miss prospects.

Also, without knowing for sure, I'd suggest the individuals have a bit more say and clubs respect their wishes more as they're only initially offered a half season contract. If they say (particularly as an interstate player) I'd rather go to x club as they'd be more likely to acquiesce to those wishes, given the individual is making quite a large life change for potentially only a half season contract with no promise of playing or extension.

If Durdin, for example, is saying I'd only consider a move interstate to Carlton as they are very likely to play me immediately and give me the best chance to extend my career I think club B who only want him as depth and he might play 1 or 2 games would give in to that.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Pick 1 - josh Deluca


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Reckon we treated Deluca poorly.

 

[Arr0w]

What areas would you need JSOS to improve for him to stay in your team?

Just continue to mature as a player, but not suggesting he would be a casualty of the setup I prefer

JSOS will always be best 22 due to his smarts and effort. In our top 3 pure footballers

Right now, absolutely and probably moving forward, but that doesn't mean you don't look to better the team/structure

I guess it's more to having taller options developing at the lower levels

 

[Coops93]

Hilarious reading the number of posts expecting us to just pick a KPD to replace weitering.
Do people realise how crazy optimistic it sounds, expecting to pluck a diamond out of the overlooked players, that are somehow going to be selected by us at pick 13,and come in and replace any of our key defenders. Lunacy

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Does anyone expect them to come in and be Weitering, or to even to an amazing job?

I think we're just hoping to find a functioning big body to play back and hope for the best.

 

[Blue__Balls]

That has always been my concern with the setup I prefer, Jsos could be squeezed out of the side like someone like Weidemann, but there are always bench spots, injuries, form slumps

Perhaps then it's as simple as using TDK as that second forward.

Pitto in the ruck.
HF: Fisher, TDK, Martin(?)
FF: Durdin, McKay, Curnow

JSOS as the bench option to provide a third forward target when TDK is doing his 20-30% ruck allocation.

Would in turn mean that rather than drafting or trading for a fwd/ruck, we look at a mature ruck as depth while Mirkov is still developing. Someone like Jordon Sweet or Lloyd Meek - lure them over on the promise of essentially being second in line for the ruck spot to Pittonet.

 

[zeeCFC]

Just continue to mature as a player, but not suggesting he would be a casualty of the setup I prefer



Right now, absolutely and probably moving forward, but that doesn't mean you don't look to better the team/structure

I guess it's more to having taller options developing at the lower levels

My best 22 forward set up with Fish on a wing is:

Honey, Curnow, Martin
SOS, McKay, Durdin

Honey and Martin capable in air and on ground makes it challenging match ups for every team in the league

 

[Coops93]

JSOS will always be best 22 due to his smarts and effort. In our top 3 pure footballers

He's been impacted as much as Cripps with Pitto going out imo. Having to do much more than pinch hit these days and gets less time forward. McKay out too makes it harder for him essentially playing as a 2nd tall which he is not.

Would be good to see him settled in a position, as great as it is to have a utility to be thrown around.

 

[Stamos]

Hilarious reading the number of posts expecting us to just pick a KPD to replace weitering.
Do people realise how crazy optimistic it sounds, expecting to pluck a diamond out of the overlooked players, that are somehow going to be selected by us at pick 13,and come in and replace any of our key defenders. Lunacy

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We're looking for somebody to replace OMac, not Weiters.
OK, literally replace Weitering for the next 5 games maybe, but nobody is expecting we find one of the best KPDs in the League in the mid-season draft.
A solid KPD who can play a role for us though? Sure.

 

[Bfevola]

Does anyone expect them to come in and be Weitering, or to even to an amazing job?

I think we're just hoping to find a functioning big body to play back and hope for the best.

No one will replace Weitering. We just hope to have a big body to come in to at least provide a presence and spoil. And doesnt mean that if you are playing in the state leagues you are poor. Many players have come from these leagues and contributed to the AFL environment.

What else are we meant to do ? Do you think Plowman is any good? I would back a state player to at least provide similar output to Plowman but hopefully a bigger presence.

Maybe I’m dreaming. We just need a competitor.

 

[Blue4Life]

Think we need three ruckman that can play if required…if mirkov can’t play because his a “development prospect” than we don’t have three on the list…we need dekoning forward more…we need Silvagni mastering his forward craft…we need cripps in the middle…so shouldn’t we be looking at any ruckman with a big tank that can run all day…taps and marks are only a bonus not essential

 

[Coops93]

No one will replace Weitering. We just hope to have a big body to come in to at least provide a presence and spoil. And doesnt mean that if you are playing in the state leagues you are poor. Many players have come from these leagues and contributed to the AFL environment.

What else are we meant to do ? Do you think Plowman is any good? I would back a state player to at least provide similar output to Plowman but hopefully a bigger presence.

Maybe I’m dreaming. We just need a competitor.

Agree with this, just hoping he's going to compete. Not expecting miracles.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Hilarious reading the number of posts expecting us to just pick a KPD to replace weitering.
Do people realise how crazy optimistic it sounds, expecting to pluck a diamond out of the overlooked players, that are somehow going to be selected by us at pick 13,and come in and replace any of our key defenders. Lunacy

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Not unrealistic at all.

You're not going to get the same quality as Weitering, of course, but the obvious candidate in Sam Durdin turns 26yo in less than a week, is 198cm and somewhere around 95-100kg, was a first round draft pick in 2014 (same draft as a few other talls who have taken time to come on for various reasons - McCartin, Wright...Pittonet).

He's certainly more likely to step in than a 20yo VFL player who has never tasted AFL grade footy, let alone been through the week to week recovery/training/preparation process.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Weitering to return via the ressies when he is bashing the door down, with his good arm

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I hold the view that Durdin will retain his position in our backline even once Weitering returns.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I hold the view that Durdin will retain his position in our backline even once Weitering returns.

Fair chance - before OMac went down our preference was for him to partner Weiters, with Gov as the third tall.

Depending on Gov's rehab, could feasibly finish the year with Weiters and Durdin as the key posts, and Young playing off the third tall. Or Durdin and Young taking the key posts and freeing Weiters up to play a bit loose.

 

[Coops93]

I hold the view that Durdin will retain his position in our backline even once Weitering returns.

I've quietly been thinking this too...