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while midfielder David Cuningham enjoyed his first session with the main group on Tuesday after rupturing his ACL in May

 

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The player I would love to be able to bring in this week for McDonald is Marchbank. He's the ideal CHB when the opposition's 2nd tall forward isn't overly big or threatening. But he's a while away of course.

Great opportunity for whoever comes in.

It hurt us last week with McDonald out. It allowed them to go long in there and avoided that height mismatch. Need that tall CHB who can take a mark and dominate the smaller forwards and medium forwards in the air.
 
The player I would love to be able to bring in this week for McDonald is Marchbank. He's the ideal CHB when the opposition's 2nd tall forward isn't overly big or threatening. But he's a while away of course.

Great opportunity for whoever comes in.

It hurt us last week with McDonald out. It allowed them to go long in there and avoided that height mismatch. Need that tall CHB who can take a mark and dominate the smaller forwards and medium forwards in the air.

Have you considered the resting ruckman? Two of Weitering, Young, Omac as KPDs. Gov, Marchbank, Plow, Kemp, Parks are only 3rd talls
 

I am so frustrated and sad that Cunners isn't out there enjoying this new midfield setup. I'm still a huge believer that he is going to tear it up (not the knee again, hopefully!), and it would seem the dynamic now is ripe for him to do just that so long as he returns with the same athletic ability. His ball-handling and kicking is elite, his athleticism is elite - going to be something to behold adding him to the mix.. If he does come on as I believe he will, we will have, without question, the best midfield in the comp ... This season, he'll hopefully have the fitness/form just in time for finals! :D
 
Have you considered the resting ruckman? Two of Weitering, Young, Omac as KPDs. Gov, Marchbank, Plow, Kemp, Parks are only 3rd talls
Voss is going to have to get creative if McDonald is (again)a long term injury and Young isnt up to playing man on man against a 2nd tall. It is our # issue atm.
Next issue was exposed very clearly against the Doggies in Q3 and Q4- Fisher and Fogarty are weak links in team defense - but that's much more easily fixable with Martin coming back in.
 
Yeah, I think they need to work with one of Kemp, JSOS or TDK to help in defence - not solely about size, though it helps, but also adding quality. Preferably Kemp and then JSOS because TDK's kicking around the ground is too unreliable and he also has the potential to be such a weapon up forward. I never thought I'd be saying that we'll miss OMac, but here we are. Relying on Young is a worry. Glass-McCasker was looking quite smooth in the Ressies - could be interesting come mid-season draft.
 
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Voss is going to have to get creative if McDonald is (again)a long term injury and Young isnt up to playing man on man against a 2nd tall. It is our # issue atm.
Next issue was exposed very clearly against the Doggies in Q3 and Q4- Fisher and Fogarty are weak links in team defense - but that's much more easily fixable with Martin coming back in.

KPDs, absolutely

2nd point, I believe it was more to do with the team as a whole rather than individuals. The tempo/composure stages reduced, as did defensive structure through the connection of the middle and the back 6, essentially our press should have moved forward as a collective when we did get have it in the forward half
 
KPDs, absolutely

2nd point, I believe it was more to do with the team as a whole rather than individuals. The tempo/composure stages reduced, as did defensive structure through the connection of the middle and the back 6, essentially our press should have moved forward as a collective when we did get have it in the forward half
Neither has the leg speed to go with a running rebounder, in Fisher's case has been shown up in 2/2 games so far. Vossy's style makes these things obvious because team defense means stay with your man enough to slow then down at least.

Agree that the whole defensive structure fell down somewhat in Q3 - McDonald out was a big change to incorporate.
 
Neither has the leg speed to go with a running rebounder, in Fisher's case has been shown up in 2/2 games so far. Vossy's style makes these things obvious because team defense means stay with your man enough to slow then down at least.

Agree that the whole defensive structure fell down somewhat in Q3 - McDonald out was a big change to incorporate.

Posted yesterday, that Fisher is equal 1st with Cripps for pressure acts over 2 games. This might not indicate speed but it does indicate he is putting himself in good defensive areas. If Fisher continues the output of the first 2 games, he will stay in the side all year.

I see Fog as blue collar depth, but he won't play many games once one of the likes of Cuners, Honey, Motlop start staking a claim
 
Agree - Fish was one of our best in the first half last Thursday imo (16 possies and a goal). He doesn't have the speed beyond perhaps 20m that might have been expected, but the zip, clean hands, dancing feet and creativity with ball in hand and in tight, as well as kicking ability, puts him well ahead of players like Fog and Owies whether playing F50 or up the ground, I reckon. I'd be very surprised if his name was even mentioned in the discussion of potential omisisons.
 
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I am so frustrated and sad that Cunners isn't out there enjoying this new midfield setup. I'm still a huge believer that he is going to tear it up (not the knee again, hopefully!), and it would seem the dynamic now is ripe for him to do just that so long as he returns with the same athletic ability. His ball-handling and kicking is elite, his athleticism is elite - going to be something to behold adding him to the mix.. If he does come on as I believe he will, we will have, without question, the best midfield in the comp ... This season, he'll hopefully have the fitness/form just in time for finals! :D

Thoroughly agree. Extremely dynamic player who who will hopefully be a significant point of difference and hitting a strong patch of form heading into finals.
 
KPDs, absolutely

2nd point, I believe it was more to do with the team as a whole rather than individuals. The tempo/composure stages reduced, as did defensive structure through the connection of the middle and the back 6, essentially our press should have moved forward as a collective when we did get have it in the forward half

The pressure fell away in H2 across the board....they were tired.

But they'll also learn from that.
 
Thoroughly agree. Extremely dynamic player who who will hopefully be a significant point of difference and hitting a strong patch of form heading into finals.
He really is a point of difference we need.

Explosive. Creative. Can kick them from outside 50.

Once he and Honey are right I think they will be pushing others out of the team.
 
Voss is going to have to get creative if McDonald is (again)a long term injury and Young isnt up to playing man on man against a 2nd tall. It is our # issue atm.
Next issue was exposed very clearly against the Doggies in Q3 and Q4- Fisher and Fogarty are weak links in team defense - but that's much more easily fixable with Martin coming back in.

Personally, I think Fisher is one player you have got wrong. Hard position to play league wide. Hard position to play in a previously weak side. Hard position to play previously with Cripps, Ed and Dow completing the forward 50 kicks to disadvantage.

Previously Fisher has also had injuries and in one patch Carlton played him continually sore. A bit like Cripps playing sore.

This is Fishers real chance to show up in a 2022 strong line up. I think his current output, stats and impact line up quite well versus other players around the league on the first two games. I think your expectations are wrong On this role. Fisher has now played in two of the hardest games For 22.

In the past you have rightly pointed out that Carlton have been too soft and not tackled enough. I’ve been totally on board with that analysis. One aspect of Fisher is that despite his slight size, he doesn’t fear tight situations like a LoB. In those tight situations Fisher just executes for good or bd. Most times escaping, sometimes getting caught. I can’t say enough about Fishers integrity in those in tight moments that he doesn’t flinch Given his size. It’s a trait and not faked.

I recommend you give Fisher another look. A look in a side that is now functioning well and not a basket case.
 
Personally, I think Fisher is one player you have got wrong. Hard position to play league wide. Hard position to play in a previously weak side. Hard position to play previously with Cripps, Ed and Dow completing the forward 50 kicks to disadvantage.

Previously Fisher has also had injuries and in one patch Carlton played him continually sore. A bit like Cripps playing sore.

This is Fishers real chance to show up in a 2022 strong line up. I think his current output, stats and impact line up quite well versus other players around the league on the first two games. I think your expectations are wrong On this role. Fisher has now played in two of the hardest games For 22.

In the past you have rightly pointed out that Carlton have been too soft and not tackled enough. I’ve been totally on board with that analysis. One aspect of Fisher is that despite his slight size, he doesn’t fear tight situations like a LoB. In those tight situations Fisher just executes for good or bd. Most times escaping, sometimes getting caught. I can’t say enough about Fishers integrity in those in tight moments that he doesn’t flinch Given his size. It’s a trait and not faked.

I recommend you give Fisher another look. A look in a side that is now functioning well and not a basket case.

You are probably right I am being a tad harsh on Fisher who isn't underperforming it must be said. I guess I want every forward in Carlton to be a dangerous weapon as far as goal kicking ability goes and that may or not be a realistic expectation on my part.
 

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