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AFLW 2024 - Round 6 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Pendles at halfback worries me. He is quite slow & poor overhead. Defensively he may get exposed. Admittedly he’s a great user & can be a weapon there. But questions will be asked of him throughout the year.
Just my opinion Jen, but I think that if Kelly can’t stick more marks / develop his contested marking he’ll end up in the backline as a tall shutdown defender
He'll be at worst as good as Noble defensively, but much better at organising those around him. Not too worried as long as Noble isn't back there with himPendles at halfback worries me. He is quite slow & poor overhead. Defensively he may get exposed. Admittedly he’s a great user & can be a weapon there. But questions will be asked of him throughout the year.
Hi there, very much appreciate your fine work and dedication - pity there are those that can only see the the negative side of everything. I'm sure that the majority of those on this site have the utmost respect for your efforts to help us keep informed of the team's progress.You're welcome. This is what brings me joy to know what I do helps others.
I had to lock my twitter account last night, as while I'm a pretty chilled person in general and don't let things affect me, but I don't need trolls abusing me for something I do for enjoyment.
I'd like the club to give Kelly all the opportunity they can to develop Kelly as a forward - historically, I reckon the club has been too quick to turn a promising forward into a solid defender - tall forwards are so much more difficult to recruit than a tall defender.I agree with this. Also with Keane returning to Ireland there's a real need to develop the key defensive depth. Dean and Kelly offer some potential as understudies.
I can't see Pendlebury playing off half back. What I think will happen is there will be more rotations through the middle this year than in previous years because we have a more even spread of midfielders now than before and players when they aren't coming off the ground, will be spending time between half back and half forward when they aren't playing in the middle. And I can see players like Crisp and Noble, who normally play off half back, spending a bit more time off the field resting to accommodate the midfielders, all in all to make us a faster side on the field for quicker ball movement.I agree with the slow and poor overhead rating on Pendles but if its out of him or say a Noble.....then I'm going with Pendles and expecting Moore, Howe and IQ to make up for Pendles age!
Pendles at halfback worries me. He is quite slow & poor overhead. Defensively he may get exposed. Admittedly he’s a great user & can be a weapon there. But questions will be asked of him throughout the year.
I also agree - Kelly has good speed, a decent kick, but is not a great overhead mark. I don't see him making it as a key forward, so best we put him back into defense nowJust my opinion Jen, but I think that if Kelly can’t stick more marks / develop his contested marking he’ll end up in the backline as a tall shutdown defender
He's been getting exposed at the centre square for a few years now, he was never fast but since he hit 30 opponents can run and spread off him really easily.
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Bloody Carlton & Essendon supporters!You're welcome. This is what brings me joy to know what I do helps others.
I had to lock my twitter account last night, as while I'm a pretty chilled person in general and don't let things affect me, but I don't need trolls abusing me for something I do for enjoyment.
The most important aspect of the report…”Nick Maxwelldid a few laps of the boundary line but it appears he was motivated to go and retrieve coffee”
Date Posted: 14:17 24/01/22 Mon
Author: Annabelle
Subject: Notes from training session on a hot Monday.
The first players – Howe, Adams, Pendles and Kreuger, drifted onto the arena prior to nine under a blue, cloud-speckled sky in very warm and humid conditions. Harrison returned to the fold, as did Callum Brown, while Draper is still isolating due to COVID and Maynard wasn’t seen today. WHE only walked laps today and a discernible limp was noted. He briefly conversed with a few of the onlookers but was not forthcoming regarding his current ailment. McMahon and Murphy (who is active again after the heavy knock last week) predominantly completed running on the outer side of the ground, though the former participated in some of the drills and sprints.
During the preamble to training the early birds chose different ways to warm up individually rather than engaging in the customary kick to kick, though towards the end some of the stragglers kicked the ball around in a desultory fashion. The new training gear has arrived, and players were bedecked in the latest version of training tops with KFC emblazoned on the back to mark our new sponsor’s contribution to our coffers. The presence of official umpires signalled this as a seminal session and an indicator that match simulation would see the intensity lifted. Nick Maxwell did a few laps of the boundary line but it appears he was motivated to go and retrieve coffee rather than cast a studious eye over the playing roster.
The formal warm-up activity is always the resistance rope and the moves performed while using the fence as a prop. The physical trainers are always pro active in explaining the purpose for the moves here. After holding aggressively against the fence, the group must mimic the leg positions while moving forward on the turf. They were told to strike the ground aggressively – to really floor it as that’s where speed comes from. They started responding to single, then, double, followed by triple moves and it was explained to the players that they will be airborne sometimes and must practise landings and taking off from them to push to the next play. The resistance rope mob was ordered not to drag their partner along, rather to effect strong vertical pulls, with the instruction to push the ground underneath you, sometimes sideways, and the movements directions were varied. Wade implored them to “Start our week well boys!”
These initial activities were followed by a series of drills, involving stations where the emphasis was on close-in handballs, releasing the ball under admittedly minimal duress.
Following was the first of the serious aerobic work of the session. Players were forced to stand sideways in a crouched position and then sprint when summoned to by the command of the trainer. They then were ordered to be prostrate on the ground facing the tennis centre goals and sprint when the whistle sounded. This compelled them to react quickly but also to simulate game conditions in terms of how players must sometimes extricate themselves from multiple body positions to chase and retrieve quickly. This activity is training their body to become inured against the stress of forcing muscles to respond to unpredictable situations and repetitive strain.
There was then an activity involving four stations, and again the focus was on handball, give and release, but one group practised some longer kicking and quick passing. The players seemed to be instructed to run between stations maintaining a high-octane environment.
They rotated again to a purely cardio-vascular phase with a long sprinting session resembling a pseudo beep test. Predictably the aerobic beasts were heading the group towards the end, while big fellow such as Grundy and Begg were the stragglers who find this their most taxing activity. Ash Johnson was also labouring at the tail of the pack.
The players sprinted to the refreshment area when rehydration breaks were afforded them to wet their parched tongues. After the first such pause in proceedings, McRae lined them up and they received drawn out instructions for the next drill. Selwood could be seen holding up a board. It transpired that the next phase was characterised by tackling as players had to navigate their way around strategically placed cones, evading the marauding packs and withstanding some serious, as opposed to the sometimes-faux tackles observed, when there is minimal contact involved in the activity. Players were moving between the various stations at lightning speed. This was a lively drill with some relishing the opportunity to tackle their opposite number to the ground.
All this scaffolding of skills graduated to a mini simulation in that there were players donning a white or black guernsey and nominally in opposition teams, though the emphasis here was on ball movement with long kicks meant to be de rigueur. Interesting the umpires were involved and adjudicating fifty metre penalties and players who were on the sidelines waiting for their turn to rotate with fellow teammates, were screaming to the umpires (clearly in jest), that there were two teams out there. There were endeavouring to mobilise the troops to go the direct route, rather than the circuitous journey so that those leading from the goal square had a clearer idea of how to time their leads. Ginnivan showed that he is adept at snapping truly on the left during this phase. Wilson took a big solid grab at one point, albeit opposed to the lightweight Noble. Scott Selwood had a long conversation with Macrae while the #18 was standing with him on the sidelines, and the assistant coach continues to impress as someone who is imbuing the younger players with solid instruction and ingraining good habits into them. Sidey shook hands with JDG and the pair were engaged in friendly banter as they waited their turn to return to the fray. The latter did appear to be fully reintegrated into the group today and slotted seamlessly into the match play. Grundy ragdolled Begg at one juncture, while Kelly’s hands continued lack stickiness.
There was one final drill focussed around leading and hitting targets before the match sim proper commenced.
Players wore black and white strips and it would have been presumptuous to define the guernsey colours as denoting senior and VFL candidates as quite a few of the senior probables were slotted into positions in either teams which created some tasty match-ups.
In all the drills and match play the volume of voices was impressive but the cacophony of urgent instructions climaxed during the main fare.
With almost a full complement of players available, and augmented by some reinforcements from the VFL squad, there was reasonable depth on display across the ground. For the white team Kreuger, Kelly, Cameron and Reef were playing forward, while the black attack was based around Cox and Checkers. Cameron also enjoyed some stints in the ruck. The black defenders were Moore, Howe and Madge. Howe was providing explicit instructions to Madge who appeared to not position himself to Jeremy’s liking. IQ, Pendles, Dean, Roughead and Crisp were staffing the defence for the white team.
Poulter played in black on a wing and was quite dashing. Nick D donned the black as a mid and appeared to be playing on Tay Adams.
The black team appeared to be more dominant and JDG and Elliott were lively in attack, though JDG also had a run in the middle. Jamie was leading and converting well. The coaches behind the goals were telling JDG to run and make space but he certainly appeared to be the main target of his teammates, even at the expense of an exasperated screaming Harrison who at one point found himself in the teeth of goals alone and unloved. The black team ran the ball well out of defence and Reef kicked the first goal of the match opposed to Howe. Both Elliott and JDG kicked multiple goals and the latter shouted, “Yes baby!” as one of his shots split the middle. As a player lined for goal, the rest of them were instructed to clear the area and get ready for the next piece of action.
On balance, one would say that there were some miskicks, missed handballs and some scrappy play, but the standard was reasonable. Occasionally we still see some redundant lateral movement much to the chagrin of the coaches, but nothing like the aesthetic travesty of Mayne ensuring his metres gained, straddled negative as his constipated kicks obeyed his radar set to backwards position.
Was pretty impressed by Kreuger who can hustle and bustle his way through traffic quite well. He is mobile and is aggressive. Johnson played as a forward for the white team.
McRae happily interacts with spectators and seems pleased to see the ground ringed with fans interested in the players' progress.
The session went for over three hours and was arduous with players afforded little time between some strenuous activites, but one would concede that this is building their fitness incrementally and hardening them for the rigours of bonafide matches. At times the shadeless venue was a veritable cauldron as the cooling breeze was only transitory.
The Cafeteria is back open?
Vast, vast majority... screw the sad trolls.Hi there, very much appreciate your fine work and dedication - pity there are those that can only see the the negative side of everything. I'm sure that the majority of those on this site have the utmost respect for your efforts to help us keep informed of the team's progress.
He'll be at worst as good as Noble defensively.
It's good to have passions and I saw what some had said about you. The name calling isn't on and is just mean.You're welcome. This is what brings me joy to know what I do helps others.
I had to lock my twitter account last night, as while I'm a pretty chilled person in general and don't let things affect me, but I don't need trolls abusing me for something I do for enjoyment.
My only interest ever has been how players improve us (my joking aside)It's good to have passions and I saw what some had said about you. The name calling isn't on and is just mean.
Maybe there's a point to be made though about talking as if you know the players personally because of their Instagram activity, or making comments about their bodies when some of them are essentially teenagers.
Just my two bits worth, so I doubt it means much. But could it be a cautionary tale about striking a balance with the language used? Idk. I will admit some of the commentary about their personal lives rubs me the wrong way sometimes.
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“The new Glasshouse is a new facility for the community, it has been designed with public accessibility in mind, specifically for women. Women will have changing facilities so that they can go for a run around the Tan. There’ll be a public gym. And it’s not just for women, but men can use it too. There‘ll be a cafe. A few public BBQ’s so you can have a cook up whilst watch training in the evening.”Hmm, I wouldn't count on it. The cafe is hit and miss, and mostly miss in terms of being open.
Visiting the Holden Centre can be like going to a remote location with access to just about nothing. No food, no water, about three seats outside the closed cafe, no publicly accessible toilets. Go before you get there or be ready to hold on.
It seems to have been planned and designed with complete disregard for the existence of things called 'fans' and 'members'.
I blame Gary Pert (I could be wrong).
I’ve been there once and will never go again.“The new Glasshouse is a new facility for the community, it has been designed with public accessibility in mind, specifically for women. Women will have changing facilities so that they can go for a run around the Tan. There’ll be a public gym. And it’s not just for women, but men can use it too. There‘ll be a cafe. A few public BBQ’s so you can have a cook up whilst watch training in the evening.”
As paraphrased by E.McGuire circa 2016.
What probably happened is that they tapped into a community funding project. Got money on the basis of providing community access. They may have even had high ideals about providing public access. Seems that they had high ideals about members finally having a social club again.
But time passed and giving the public and us members access just seemed all too hard. It seemed much easier to put a lock on the doors and keep people out. The new glasshouse was barely 5 years old and it has already had a fairly significant refit - one indication that the building wasn’t really serving the purpose that it was designed for.
This contemporary article mentions the public gym (which never materialised) …
Bums on catered seats: Collingwood's Glasshouse project expands revenue base
Collingwood has moved into the event space game as it diversifies its revenue beyond blokes in tight shorts.www.afr.com
… although to be fair to the club, the women’s footy and netball teams did come on line quite quickly after the new Glasshouse was opened and they needed to be accommodated.