2023 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Jack Richards]

No mention of Big Meek from hawks. He is likely to remain behind Reeves in ruck spot. Not sure if he is happy to just play 80% VFL next yr.

Hawks like playing 2 rucks

 

[HairyO]

Brady Rawlings all but confirmed today with Cal North's top 4 is finalised and in order for the year on their board


By elimination in the interview it contains (in no order) Reid, McKercher, Watson and Curtin.

If you add Duursma isnt that everyones' top 5 (excluding academies) ?

 

[Albertonarmy]

First of the draft camp articles is out.

Vic Metro leads the way as Draft Combine list announced

The list of players invited to this year's Draft Combine has been announced

www.afl.com.au

Saw Ashton Moir on the weekend , looks a million dollars but only got 4 possies including a goal that was a bit of a cheapie but his team thrashed the opposition so he wasn't really required , what's happened to Will Patton didn't play at any level for past few weeks

 

[PoholkMe10]

Saw Ashton Moir on the weekend , looks a million dollars but only got 4 possies including a goal that was a bit of a cheapie but his team thrashed the opposition so he wasn't really required , what's happened to Will Patton didn't play at any level for past few weeks

Is in a sling, assume he's had surgery on a shoulder or something similar.

 

[Lingsface]

i see the hype now on curtin after league games.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Mature-aged trio among latest invitees to Draft Combines

A total of 55 players have been invited to state Draft Combines in Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia

www.afl.com.au

More names for testing.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Once again, Frangalas is overlooked.

I wonder how he could be plummeting so rapidly.

Sometime last year, he was the Stingrays’ No. 1.

 

[lionshine]

Mature-aged trio among latest invitees to Draft Combines

A total of 55 players have been invited to state Draft Combines in Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia

www.afl.com.au

More names for testing.

Very surprised Kai Owens didn’t get an invite

 

[PortVic]

Hawks like playing 2 rucks

Heard Mitchell on radio few weeks back saying that maybe 2 rucks wasn’t working. And said Reeves is their no1 has they win clearances when his rucking.

 

[Jack Richards]

From a fantasy footy perspective
Would people prefer pick 1 and say pick 14
Or
Pick 2 and 6

 

[M Malice]

From a fantasy footy perspective
Would people prefer pick 1 and say pick 14
Or
Pick 2 and 6

2 & 6 please.

 

[Cursedsword02]

Does anyone know what happened to Will Lorenz? Was looking back at the '10 Prospects to Watch in 2023' article from last year and he's gone from appearing there to missing nearly every Phantom Ranking I've seen lately.

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

Does anyone know what happened to Will Lorenz? Was looking back at the '10 Prospects to Watch in 2023' article from last year and he's gone from appearing there to missing nearly every Phantom Ranking I've seen lately.

Good. I'd really like him to somehow fall through the cracks just so Hawthorn can pick him up. But in all seriousness, I would be picking him in the 30-40 range. His performance on Grand Final day last year was stellar. Coming into the year, I thought he was a top-10 prospect that could rival for the top 5, but it seems he was strangely put on the back burner down at Oakleigh and didn't have much clarity on his role. He was playing defense and such and didn't really have a clear role. That said, it seems he played quite well at the school level. I hope he can have a successful finals campaign with Oakleigh. From what I've seen of him, he is clearly a talented player that I don't think has been given a great opportunity to thrive. He could very well be the bargain of this draft and one of the bargains of the current era.

 

[Davo-27]

Does anyone know what happened to Will Lorenz? Was looking back at the '10 Prospects to Watch in 2023' article from last year and he's gone from appearing there to missing nearly every Phantom Ranking I've seen lately.

At Oakleigh he has been forced out of the midfield by the 2024 mids (Finn O'Sullivan, Jagga Smith, Tom Gross) and also at VM, so has played as a half forw flanker for most of the year with stints at half back and wing, still a good player, but the drop in poss and impact has lowered his value come draft time.

 

[FB19]

At Oakleigh he has been forced out of the midfield by the 2024 mids (Finn O'Sullivan, Jagga Smith, Tom Gross) and also at VM, so has played as a half forw flanker for most of the year with stints at half back and wing, still a good player, but the drop in poss and impact has lowered his value come draft time.

He’s been Munkara’d! Funnily enough I read on a bombers board he may be cut this year already…

 

[giantroo]

Twomey's latest phantom draft - Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

 

[Albertonarmy]

Twomey's latest phantom draft - Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

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What a farce this competition has become in the last couple of years, one of those kids was dropped as he couldn't cope with playing against men yet we have a 19 year old playing in a bottom side finishing top 10 in the Magarey and not getting a mention. The system is fully broken when you hear other stories of agents pulling their kids out of competition so they don't affect their draft chances

 

[briztoon]

Drawing a bit of a long bow here, but after listening to Twomey today.

North receive pick 3 as McKay compo.

GWS trade 6 & 12 to North for pick 3.

North trade 2 & 6 to WC for pick 1.

1 North. Harley Reid.
2 West Coast. Colby McKercher.
3 GWS. Zane Duursma.
4 WB. Nick Watson.
5 Melbourne. Nate Caddy.
6 West Coast. Daniel Curtin.
7 Geelong. Connor O’Sullivan.
8 Essendon.
9 Adelaide.
10. ??? Who ever trades for it.

 

[FB19]

Drawing a bit of a long bow here, but after listening to Twomey today.

North receive pick 3 as McKay compo.

GWS trade 6 & 12 to North for pick 3.

North trade 2 & 6 to WC for pick 1.

1 North. Harley Reid.
2 West Coast. Colby McKercher.
3 GWS. Zane Duursma.
4 WB. Nick Watson.
5 Melbourne. Nate Caddy.
6 West Coast. Daniel Curtin.
7 Geelong. Connor O’Sullivan.
8 Essendon.
9 Adelaide.
10. ??? Who ever trades for it.

What happened to hawks pick?

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

Drawing a bit of a long bow here, but after listening to Twomey today.

North receive pick 3 as McKay compo.

GWS trade 6 & 12 to North for pick 3.

North trade 2 & 6 to WC for pick 1.

1 North. Harley Reid.
2 West Coast. Colby McKercher.
3 GWS. Zane Duursma.
4 WB. Nick Watson.
5 Melbourne. Nate Caddy.
6 West Coast. Daniel Curtin.
7 Geelong. Connor O’Sullivan.
8 Essendon.
9 Adelaide.
10. ??? Who ever trades for it.

Hawks pick is ghost like.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Drawing a bit of a long bow here, but after listening to Twomey today.

North receive pick 3 as McKay compo.

GWS trade 6 & 12 to North for pick 3.

North trade 2 & 6 to WC for pick 1.

1 North. Harley Reid.
2 West Coast. Colby McKercher.
3 GWS. Zane Duursma.
4 WB. Nick Watson.
5 Melbourne. Nate Caddy.
6 West Coast. Daniel Curtin.
7 Geelong. Connor O’Sullivan.
8 Essendon.
9 Adelaide.
10. ??? Who ever trades for it.

North would be miles better off keeping 6 and 12 imo. 6 is in the sweet spot for them and 12 will be around the mark of some good talls. I do get why GWS would need to trade up with potentially Duursma being the only great fit (considering go home factor plus types of players available) so it would probably require pick 2 for 6 and 12 if it happened.
They could take Caddy at 3 then still get one of Curtin, McKercher, Watson or O’Sullivan. It’s makes little difference for them having 2 and 3 or 3 and 6 imo.

But I do rate O’Sullivan higher then maybe I should

 

[Davo-27]

Drawing a bit of a long bow here, but after listening to Twomey today.

North receive pick 3 as McKay compo.

GWS trade 6 & 12 to North for pick 3.

North trade 2 & 6 to WC for pick 1.

1 North. Harley Reid.
2 West Coast. Colby McKercher.
3 GWS. Zane Duursma.
4 WB. Nick Watson.
5 Melbourne. Nate Caddy.
6 West Coast. Daniel Curtin.
7 Geelong. Connor O’Sullivan.
8 Essendon.
9 Adelaide.
10. ??? Who ever trades for it.

How did the WB get pick4?

 

[_Cerberus_]

Drawing a bit of a long bow here, but after listening to Twomey today.

North receive pick 3 as McKay compo.

GWS trade 6 & 12 to North for pick 3.

North trade 2 & 6 to WC for pick 1.

1 North. Harley Reid.
2 West Coast. Colby McKercher.
3 GWS. Zane Duursma.
4 WB. Nick Watson.
5 Melbourne. Nate Caddy.
6 West Coast. Daniel Curtin.
7 Geelong. Connor O’Sullivan.
8 Essendon.
9 Adelaide.
10. ??? Who ever trades for it.

Eagles are into Curtain apparently. No way he lasts until pick 6. Eagles will only trade pick 1, if they are assured of getting Curtain and a haul of picks. Hawks need talls and their list manager has indicated they intend to target some. Curtain will go within the top 3, whether it is Eagles or North.

 

[Cobblers]

Drawing a bit of a long bow here, but after listening to Twomey today.

North receive pick 3 as McKay compo.

GWS trade 6 & 12 to North for pick 3.

North trade 2 & 6 to WC for pick 1.

1 North. Harley Reid.
2 West Coast. Colby McKercher.
3 GWS. Zane Duursma.
4 WB. Nick Watson.
5 Melbourne. Nate Caddy.
6 West Coast. Daniel Curtin.
7 Geelong. Connor O’Sullivan.
8 Essendon.
9 Adelaide.
10. ??? Who ever trades for it.

If North get pick 3 for McKay then Giants first pick is 7 and second pick would be 14 at the earliest even before allowing for Suns academy picks.
I also think any team would be crazy to trade 2 and 6/7 for 1. That is like saying getting Reid is better than getting both Curtin and Caddy or McKercher and O'Sullivan

 

[mattyc75]

Eagles badly want Curtain. No way he lasts until pick 6. Eagles will only trade pick 1, if they are assured of getting Curtain and a haul of picks. Hawks need talls and their list manager has indicated they intend to target some. Curtain will go within the top 3, whether it is Eagles or North.

How do we know the eagles want curtin badly? Because the vic media doesnt want reid heading west?

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