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Looks closer to 38.
MFer you at least 30!Looks closer to 38.
Yeah have to say I really liked Freo’s picks in terms of quality and addressing their areas of need. Simpson could be one of the best value picks of the draft if he stays fit, and Murphy was a massive sliderGiven where clubs had their picks, thought Dockers, Dogs, Crows, Cats, WC, did very well
Yeah have to say I really liked Freo’s picks in terms of quality and addressing their areas of need. Simpson could be one of the best value picks of the draft if he stays fit, and Murphy was a massive slider
Our retention issues are due to a feud with one player manager (Colin Young) Henry, Lobb, Acres, Logue, B Hill, all his players.
The only B22 players we’ve lost outside of this group are Cerra (missed Nona’s pasta during Covid) and Schultz (was going to eventually for family reasons, Collingwood bucket of $$$ persuaded him to go early).
Meek, Tucker, Hamling all not B22 and left for more opportunities at other clubs.
In review the draft shows how utterly pointless picks 13-55 really were in terms of difference.
Id have taken Murphy ahead of Dawson for example and one went at 21 and the other 41. I would have taken Edwards ahead of Goad and one went at 20 and the other 30 odd. For this reason I feel the teams who were in that 25-50 range are the teams who did the best value wise
From the draft id say 3 clear winners were Geelong, St Kilda and Fremantle. All got great value for what they had.
For Eagles Im just okay with it. Got the game changer we needed, a more long term forward to replace Darling whose still got 2 years in him and then some middling midfielders who I think we overrated and went too early with. I think at pick 49 we should have went ZZ or Roberts to diversify out picks a bit better
Biggest losers were North who overreached for players in the early 20s who would have been around in the 30s anyway. Would have been better off trading into next years draft with those picks and picking later. GWS got it horribly wrong also with pick 12/16 muckup . Sydney Swans also I think went weird in not going for some more AFL ready bodies, especially when it comes to defenders. Crimiunal to not grab one of Murphy/ZZ with a trade down
No one said it wasn't a problem but there are more West Australians than any other state of origin that have left. A lot of the players who left were mercenaries who we traded in so we can't be too upset by those as it's in their nature.10 required players over a four year period, not to mention Hogan, Langdon and Neale.
You can’t act like it’s not a problem.
I seriously doubt Freo are crying in their beer over losing blokes like Rory Lobb.....10 required players over a four year period, not to mention Hogan, Langdon and Neale.
You can’t act like it’s not a problem.
Cal Twomey had Goad, Hardeman and Dawson all before 30 - so which players would have been in the 30s?In review the draft shows how utterly pointless picks 13-55 really were in terms of difference.
Id have taken Murphy ahead of Dawson for example and one went at 21 and the other 41. I would have taken Edwards ahead of Goad and one went at 20 and the other 30 odd. For this reason I feel the teams who were in that 25-50 range are the teams who did the best value wise
From the draft id say 3 clear winners were Geelong, St Kilda and Fremantle. All got great value for what they had.
For Eagles Im just okay with it. Got the game changer we needed, a more long term forward to replace Darling whose still got 2 years in him and then some middling midfielders who I think we overrated and went too early with. I think at pick 49 we should have went ZZ or Roberts to diversify out picks a bit better
Biggest losers were North who overreached for players in the early 20s who would have been around in the 30s anyway. Would have been better off trading into next years draft with those picks and picking later. GWS got it horribly wrong also with pick 12/16 muckup . Sydney Swans also I think went weird in not going for some more AFL ready bodies, especially when it comes to defenders. Crimiunal to not grab one of Murphy/ZZ with a trade down
No one said it wasn't a problem but there are more West Australians than any other state of origin that have left. A lot of the players who left were mercenaries who we traded in so we can't be too upset by those as it's in their nature.
Names on a page look like a lot but some are double ups and we have generally come out in front with what we have flipped them for. Our Drafting and Development has been great in the same period so I'd rather that happens over retention, although it has to stop soon.
Biggest losers were North who overreached for players in the early 20s who would have been around in the 30s anyway. Would have been better off trading into next years draft with those picks and picking later. GWS got it horribly wrong also with pick 12/16 muckup . Sydney Swans also I think went weird in not going for some more AFL ready bodies, especially when it comes to defenders. Crimiunal to not grab one of Murphy/ZZ with a trade down
Unlikely, AFL want those Northern states to succeed desperately, they wont change it after 1 season. If anything, they compromised their own draft by giving North a massive leg up.Lions have F/S Levi Ashcroft rated top 5 at this stage and Academy boy Sam Marshall who a few pundits have in the top 15-20 so we will need points as well.
However I wouldn't mind betting the AFL change the bidding/matching process next year.
I was actually commenting on the amount of whinging that Fremantle do when they lose players because of go home factor. Not they shouldn't draft them but have the understanding that they might leave and that whinging isn't going to stop that. The alternate is to draft kids from WA as they won't want to leave. This is a big thing about the Vic Bias debateTo highlight how strange it is to suggest Fremantle should’ve taken local talent to counter the recent trend of players leaving.
Especially when as you admit you’ve seen nothing of any of the prospects.
You just picked up a kid Freo drafted from WA, it’s like you don’t even know your own team.I was actually commenting on the amount of whinging that Fremantle do when they lose players because of go home factor. Not they shouldn't draft them but have the understanding that they might leave and that whinging isn't going to stop that. The alternate is to draft kids from WA as they won't want to leave. This is a big thing about the Vic Bias debate
Yep Bodie Ryan looks average. Average kick and handball. Will be lucky to get any time in the seniors.In review the draft shows how utterly pointless picks 13-55 really were in terms of difference.
Id have taken Murphy ahead of Dawson for example and one went at 21 and the other 41. I would have taken Edwards ahead of Goad and one went at 20 and the other 30 odd. For this reason I feel the teams who were in that 25-50 range are the teams who did the best value wise
From the draft id say 3 clear winners were Geelong, St Kilda and Fremantle. All got great value for what they had.
For Eagles Im just okay with it. Got the game changer we needed, a more long term forward to replace Darling whose still got 2 years in him and then some middling midfielders who I think we overrated and went too early with. I think at pick 49 we should have went ZZ or Roberts to diversify out picks a bit better
Biggest losers were North who overreached for players in the early 20s who would have been around in the 30s anyway. Would have been better off trading into next years draft with those picks and picking later. GWS got it horribly wrong also with pick 12/16 muckup . Sydney Swans also I think went weird in not going for some more AFL ready bodies, especially when it comes to defenders. Crimiunal to not grab one of Murphy/ZZ with a trade down
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Yep Bodie Ryan looks average. Average kick and handball. Will be lucky to get any time in the seniors.
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