Opinion 2023 AFL Draft Prospects

[RWnBluey]

 

[Angak]

Buss should be ready to debut sometime in 2024, and he can clunk them

I'm yet to be convinced by Busslinger. Maybe an injury free off-season will do him a world of good.

 

[scooter600x]

Yeah I get we’re stacked for forwards but I’m not sure why people aren’t excited about him. When I watch his footage on YouTube all I think about is what he could become - that speed & athleticism & then aggression on top of it. That package will be at minimum a solid afl player

I'd be a lot more excited if he could catch.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Yeah I get we’re stacked for forwards but I’m not sure why people aren’t excited about him. When I watch his footage on YouTube all I think about is what he could become - that speed & athleticism & then aggression on top of it. That package will be at minimum a solid afl player

It's just the nature of this kind of player. You see an incredible athletic profile for a tall - I see a small in a tall's body who lacks in some of the key attributes of a key position player. Not saying either of us are right or wrong and it's important to note I've seen a very tiny amount (and as soon as his name is called will back him in).

 

[TiAn_]

My read is I see more AFL level KPP attributes in Croft than I did with Busslinger.

Croft doesn’t have the size yet but he has the aggression and willingness for the contest to be an effective tall, as well as the height and athleticism.

 

[doggies ftw]

It's just the nature of this kind of player. You see an incredible athletic profile for a tall - I see a small in a tall's body who lacks in some of the key attributes of a key position player. Not saying either of us are right or wrong and it's important to note I've seen a very tiny amount (and as soon as his name is called will back him in).

I don’t really agree that he’s a small in a talls body at all to be honest, what about him makes you think he plays like a small? Just because he has athleticism? He crashes packs like a tall, presents like a tall, runs leading patterns like a tall. Just has good follow up at ground level too, that’s a bonus.

His marking doesn’t look like a huge weakness for mine, but definitely doesn’t look like a strength - I’d expect it to improve with added strength

 

[True Dog]

I'm yet to be convinced by Busslinger. Maybe an injury free off-season will do him a world of good.

I was very encouraged by his progression throughout the year given the injury he was coming back from. I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t debut sometime next year tbh. Certainly will benefit from a full preseason.

 

[Dav1d]

Croft ran a 6.05 in the 2km time trial, fourth at the combine

 

[VitalDread]

Don't know why but I feel like dogs will pulls a pissa and take Curtin if he's still there

 

[weltschmerz]

Don't know why but I feel like dogs will pulls a pissa and take Curtin if he's still there

He'll only be there if North's drafting is completely incompetent. Which is a distinct possibility.

 

[VitalDread]

He'll only be there if North's drafting is completely incompetent. Which is a distinct possibility.

I wouldn't be shocked if take Reid and Sanders

 

[weltschmerz]

I wouldn't be shocked if take Reid and Sanders

You think West Coast's taking Curtin?

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I don’t really agree that he’s a small in a talls body at all to be honest, what about him makes you think he plays like a small? Just because he has athleticism? He crashes packs like a tall, presents like a tall, runs leading patterns like a tall. Just has good follow up at ground level too, that’s a bonus.

His marking doesn’t look like a huge weakness for mine, but definitely doesn’t look like a strength - I’d expect it to improve with added strength

For me - again, limited online-only viewing, so hardly reliable - he seems to avoid engaging his defender and instead spreads and beats them with run, which is much harder to do at AFL level. He is a poor mark for his height. He may have the aggression to crash packs and follow up at ground level but in what I've seen he doesn't actually positively impact the contests that much. Many of the marks he does take seem to be on much smaller opponents, or in space, or when his direct opponent is otherwise engaged. He doesn't actually seem to beat them all that regularly. He takes the game on but doesn't seem particularly tidy. On the watch he lacks that dominance that first-round KPFs typically bring, for me - and this checks out if you look at his Coates League stats relative to his contemporaries. At present he looks like the classic tall bloke I'd put a 190cm mobile defender on, nullify his run, and just wear it when he plucks a couple marks.

He certainly has some fantastic strengths. This post here is not a balanced appraisal, it is a selective choosing of the criticisms I have on limited footage, as you've asked for. He might be great. But in an open pool, he's not somebody I would look at and think first round KPF. Perhaps he does fare well down back, but until we see it, it's blind hope. Key defence is more than an athletic profile.

 

[goodcop badcop]

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: 2KM TIME TRIAL​

5:48 min - Tarkyn O’Leary (Sandringham Dragons)
5:52 min - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
5:56 min - Ethan Read (GC Suns Academy)
6:05 min - Jordan Croft (Calder Cannons)
6:06 min - Caiden Cleary (Sydney Swans Academy)
6:06 min - Aiden O’Driscoll (Perth)
6:08 min - Archie Roberts (Sandringham Dragons)
6:11 min - Connor O’Sullivan (Murray Bushrangers)
6:13 min - Joel Freijah (GWV Rebels)
6:17 min - Harvey Johnston (Sandringham Dragons)
6:17 min - Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco)

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: 20M SPRINT​

2.871 sec - Aiden O’Driscoll (Perth)
2.915 sec - Will Graham (GC Suns Academy)
2.916 sec - Caleb Windsor (Eastern Ranges)
2.923 sec - Lance Collard (Subiaco)
2.930 sec - Kane McAuliffe (North Adelaide)
2.954 sec - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
2.963 sec - Phoenix Gothard (Murray Bushrangers)
2.965 sec - Taylor Goad (South Adelaide)
2.993 sec - Eion McElholm (Ireland)
2.996 sec - Harry DeMattia (Dandenong Stingrays)

DRAFT COMBINE: AGILITY​

8.157sec - Lance Collard (Subiaco)
8.194 sec - Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco)
8.204 sec - Angus Hastie (Geelong Falcons)
8.208 sec - Bodie Ryan (Glenelg)
8.233 sec - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
8.244 sec - Ashton Moir (Glenelg)
8.260 sec - Reece Torrent (Peel Thunder)
8.263 sec - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
8.302 sec - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
8.331 sec - Nate Caddy (Northern Knights)

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: STANDING VERTICAL JUMP​

80cm - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
78cm - Phoenix Gothard (Murray Bushrangers)
78cm - Will Graham (GC Suns Academy)
78cm - Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder)
77cm - Kane McAuliffe (North Adelaide)
76cm - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
75cm - Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts)
74cm - Jack Delean (South Adelaide)
74cm - Taylor Goad (South Adelaide)
73cm - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
73cm - Caleb Windsor (Eastern Ranges)

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP​

98cm - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
97cm - Zane Duursma (Gippsland Power)
95cm - Will Graham (GC Suns Academy)
95cm - Kane McAuliffe (North Adelaide)
94cm - Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder)
94cm - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
92cm - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
92cm - Caleb Windsor (Eastern Ranges)
91cm - Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts)
90cm - Cooper Simpson (Dandenong Stingrays)

AFL VIC STATE DRAFT COMBINE RESULTS​

VERTICAL JUMP

1. Billy Willson (Dandenong Stingrays) – 75cm
2. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) – 72cm
   Jacob Grant (Dandenong Stingrays) – 72cm
   Lachlan McArthur (Western Jets) – 72cm
   Geordie Payne (Tasmania Devils) – 72cm
   5. Cooper Trembath (Eastern Ranges) – 70cm

RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP

1. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) – 91cm
   Jacob Grant (Dandenong Stingrays) – 91cm
   Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays) – 91cm
   4. Cooper Trembath (Eastern Ranges) – 88cm
   5. Geordie Payne (Tasmania Devils) – 86cm
   6. Patrick Snell (Lions Academy) – 86cm

AGILITY

1. Kristian Ferronato (Northern Knights) – 8.108 seconds
2. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) – 8.237 seconds
3. Geordie Payne (Tasmania Devils) – 8.357 seconds
4. Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays) – 8.357 seconds
5. Oskar Smartt (Bendigo Pioneers) – 8.413 seconds

20m SPRINT

1. Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays) – 2.938 seconds
2. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) – 2.950
3. Georgie Payne (Tasmania Devils) – 2.981
4. Lachie Charleson (GWV Rebels) – 2.991
5. Kobe Shipp (Dandenong Stingrays) – 3.010

2KM TIME TRIAL

1. Harvey Thomas (Giants Academy) – 5:55 mins
2. Tom Anastasopoulos (Geelong Falcons) – 6:11
3. Kynan Brown (Oakleigh Chargers) – 6:12
4. Oliver Poole (Bendigo Pioneers) – 6:16
5. Michael Rudd (Geelong Falcons) – 6:17

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-combine-results-bulldogs-fatherson-jordan-croft-speaks-about-looming-decision/news-story/c61862aa90b04f9086d9abe7c031cfd1

 

[doggies ftw]

That’s a serious athletic profile for Kane McAuliffe, I thought that was a knock on him? How’s his foot skills & where does he land in the draft

 

[weltschmerz]

That’s a serious athletic profile for Kane McAuliffe, I thought that was a knock on him? How’s his foot skills & where does he land in the draft

I asked Bangers the oter day

 

[Mojorisin]

That’s a serious athletic profile for Kane McAuliffe, I thought that was a knock on him? How’s his foot skills & where does he land in the draft

40 - Rookie
His very physically developed, probably the SA equivalent of Stevens.

 

[weltschmerz]

40 - Rookie
His very physically developed, probably the SA equivalent of Stevens.

Stevens is treacle slow though.

 

[goodcop badcop]

That’s a serious athletic profile for Kane McAuliffe, I thought that was a knock on him? How’s his foot skills & where does he land in the draft

I'd be ok if we took him late or as a rookie. Weaknesses would be endurance and upside. It's a bit of a concern that he hasn't really stood out at SANFL reserves level given he is very well physically developed. His physicality and defensive game are the two things that stand out to me and could develop into a tagger maybe.

 

[Mojorisin]

Stevens is treacle slow though.

Yes Mcaulliffe is definitely better athletically.
I meant more in that both have more mature bodies then their peers and probably lack the upside of someone like Charlie Edwards.
What you see now is pretty much what you get.

 

[Doggy]

I know we can't without using pick 6 and I doubt that happens, but I'd love to get Caddy somehow

 

[PMBangers]

I asked Bangers the oter day

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God what a good response

 

[Dale4captain]

I know we can't without using pick 6 and I doubt that happens, but I'd love to get Caddy somehow

An undersized key forward with limited midfield potential? Pls explain doggy

 

[House_of_Dahl]

You think West Coast's taking Curtin?

If WC take Curtin they'd be mad not trade out pick 1. Even if it's just 2 and 19 for 1. It's still a free 19

 

[hatescaptcha]

I personally think adding both Watson / Collard wouldn’t be overkill.

All our small forwards have the ability to rotate through midfield or wing. Once fitness permits.

Weightman had a bit of a crack last year.
Clarke was noted to have that ability in his draft year and Arty has always been destined for the wing.
Watson and Collard both have played through midfield and wing previously. Collard reminds me of a young Shai Bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

.
They are both special players. With real star qualities.

It could definitely work and we’d have the most dangerous forward half set up in the league.

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