Opinion 2023 AFL Draft Prospects

[House_of_Dahl]

Are you saying we don't need another ruckman. (Sweet is gone and English intentions are unknown). Ethan Read is likely to be the highest ranked ruck in draft for a few years.

I think we need a Sweet/VFL/Rookie ruck replacement. I certainly don't want to take Read/Ruck with 4(6). I think there is a clear top 6 and we should take one of them.

 

[weltschmerz]

Are you saying we don't need another ruckman. (Sweet is gone and English intentions are unknown). Ethan Read is likely to be the highest ranked ruck in draft for a few years.

It's considered very poor form to bid on another team's player with a pick you got from them (one reason GWS didn't bid on Daicos). He's also not a player I'd spend pick 6 on.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Very interesting wording on the website they refer to Croft as a utility that can play at either end…

Future CHB confirmed.


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Bevo will play him on a wing

 

[Munnez]

Croft’s best attribute is his athleticism which makes for a good defender. He’s tall but surprisingly quick and agile.


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Could he develop and be a similar player to Darcy Moore in time?

 

[weltschmerz]

Could he develop and be a similar player to Darcy Moore in time?

His highlights have some Moore to them.

 

[NthBondiDoggies]

Reckon North finds a way to get 1. For West Coast Curtin would be perfect - he is a star and so if they got Curtin and another first rounder - at least 15 - they would be better off.

So North gets 1 on Reid

West Coast bids on Jed Walter at 2 and Suns match

West Coasts gets Curtin at 3

North take McErcher at 4

Hawks take Watson or Duursma at 5

We take Watson or Sanders at 6

Duursma - I think he is very good but the above 6 have dominated multiple games and I think he is just a shade below.

 

[Euku]

I feel like we get one of Curtin Watson Sanders, there's a world where

WC 1 Reid
Gc 2 walter
Nth 3 mckercher
Nth 4 Watson or duursma
Haw 5 Watson or duursma
Dogs 6 Curtin

 

[Munnez]

Yes Mcaulliffe is definitely better athletically.
I meant more in that both have more mature bodies then their peers and probably lack the upside of someone like Charlie Edwards.
What you see now is pretty much what you get.

Would like to pick up Charlie reckon he could become a very good player at the level. Just can't see any way we could get him

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Reckon North finds a way to get 1. For West Coast Curtin would be perfect - he is a star and so if they got Curtin and another first rounder - at least 15 - they would be better off.

So North gets 1 on Reid

West Coast bids on Jed Walter at 2 and Suns match

West Coasts gets Curtin at 3

North take McErcher at 4

Hawks take Watson or Duursma at 5

We take Watson or Sanders at 6

Duursma - I think he is very good but the above 6 have dominated multiple games and I think he is just a shade below.

A chance McKercher slides in this scenario. If North get pick 1 they take Reid. Surely they think about not taking yet another mid at 3(4). Hawks seem very keen on Duursma.

It's why I want North to get pick 1.

 

[Dav1d]

I’d take McKercher and Watson ahead of Reid a million times before I’d take just Harley Reid

 

[Mofra]

I think we need a Sweet/VFL/Rookie ruck replacement. I certainly don't want to take Read/Ruck with 4(6). I think there is a clear top 6 and we should take one of them.

You can get rucks in the rookie draft. The development timeline for rucks is so long it really is a crap-shoot taking them as an 18 year old

 

[Mofra]

I feel like we get one of Curtin Watson Sanders, there's a world where

WC 1 Reid
Gc 2 walter
Nth 3 mckercher
Nth 4 Watson or duursma
Haw 5 Watson or duursma
Dogs 6 Curtin

Hawks have been linked to Duursma for months now.
I think we end up with Watson, Curtin and McKercher gone before our pick

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Hawks have been linked to Duursma for months now.
I think we end up with Watson, Curtin and McKercher gone before our pick

Feel like this is why we focused our interest on Watson. Making sure we are comfortable with any of the top 6 and Watson the 6th.

 

[jakson68]

Firstly apologies for the intrusion but this has been on my mind for a while and the Doggies find more each year.
Who better to ask, than the people ITK.

With all the talls that the Doggies have (amazing group of young talls), could they all play in the same side, or are they gettable down the track.

Not including AA ruckman

Lobb - 30 - No great loss
Keith - 31 - Not long left
Naughton - 23 - First I cant believe he is only 23, not going anywhere
JUH - 21 - Could be anything
Darcy - 20 - Young but has talent
O'Donnell - 21 - Has shown a bit
Croft - Draftee.

Even when Keith retires and Lobb is gone (sorry but I don't get the Lobb acquisition), that is still a lot of 2 mt players wanting games.

Can they all play together?
Will they have the patience to wait for their time?
Who if any, could look elsewhere?

 

[Dav1d]

Firstly apologies for the intrusion but this has been on my mind for a while and the Doggies find more each year.
Who better to ask, than the people ITK.

With all the talls that the Doggies have (amazing group of young talls), could they all play in the same side, or are they gettable down the track.

Not including AA ruckman

Lobb - 30 - No great loss
Keith - 31 - Not long left
Naughton - 23 - First I cant believe he is only 23, not going anywhere
JUH - 21 - Could be anything
Darcy - 20 - Young but has talent
O'Donnell - 21 - Has shown a bit
Croft - Draftee.

Even when Keith retires and Lobb is gone (sorry but I don't get the Lobb acquisition), that is still a lot of 2 mt players wanting games.

Can they all play together?
Will they have the patience to wait for their time?
Who if any, could look elsewhere?

I have some concerns over JUH going elsewhere and not sure about where Busslinger fits in all of this
You were also missing Liam Jones to who wouldn’t have long left either

 

[Doggy]

I have some concerns over JUH going elsewhere and not sure about where Busslinger fits in all of this
You were also missing Liam Jones to who wouldn’t have long left either

JUH isn't leaving

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Firstly apologies for the intrusion but this has been on my mind for a while and the Doggies find more each year.
Who better to ask, than the people ITK.

With all the talls that the Doggies have (amazing group of young talls), could they all play in the same side, or are they gettable down the track.

Not including AA ruckman

Lobb - 30 - No great loss
Keith - 31 - Not long left
Naughton - 23 - First I cant believe he is only 23, not going anywhere
JUH - 21 - Could be anything
Darcy - 20 - Young but has talent
O'Donnell - 21 - Has shown a bit
Croft - Draftee.

Even when Keith retires and Lobb is gone (sorry but I don't get the Lobb acquisition), that is still a lot of 2 mt players wanting games.

Can they all play together?
Will they have the patience to wait for their time?
Who if any, could look elsewhere?

It's a fair question to ask. Naughton's obviously just signed on until 2032 and is spoken about as a future captain (possibly vice captain in a year or two), so I'd expect he'd be tough to shake loose. Word is that JUH is close to a 5-6 year extension, and he seems very close to both Naughton and Bont. Darcy's been around the club his whole life. I think Croft less so, who knows how much the father-son thing ties him to us, maybe not as much as Darcy. O'Donnell I have no idea. Ironically the best chance is probably the AA ruckman but we'll see how that goes over the next year. We've also got Busslinger at 196cm but we haven't seen much of him yet.

I'd say having them all in the same side is probably too tall but it depends on their roles and structure, and more importantly it'll probably never come to that with inevitable injuries. As a Dogs fan who grew up watching them through the late 90s and 2000s this is a surreal problem to have, I gotta say.

Also there's a lot of people on here who don't get the Lobb acquisition either, and there's a chance he's out this trade period anyway.

 

[Dav1d]

JUH isn't leaving

That would be fantastic because he & Naughton will be a potent key position duo in a few years, I suspect they’ll be bordering on unstoppable if we can get the ball to them

 

[Golden_6]

JUH isn't leaving

I'd be very suprised if JUH isn't signed up to a long term well before the season starts. I fully believe that as best mates, JUH & Naughton are focused on creating a lethal duo together for a very long time.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Firstly apologies for the intrusion but this has been on my mind for a while and the Doggies find more each year.
Who better to ask, than the people ITK.

With all the talls that the Doggies have (amazing group of young talls), could they all play in the same side, or are they gettable down the track.

Not including AA ruckman

Lobb - 30 - No great loss
Keith - 31 - Not long left
Naughton - 23 - First I cant believe he is only 23, not going anywhere
JUH - 21 - Could be anything
Darcy - 20 - Young but has talent
O'Donnell - 21 - Has shown a bit
Croft - Draftee.

Even when Keith retires and Lobb is gone (sorry but I don't get the Lobb acquisition), that is still a lot of 2 mt players wanting games.

Can they all play together?
Will they have the patience to wait for their time?
Who if any, could look elsewhere?

Keath and Lobb are pretty much irrelevant. Of the remaining five, Croft could be great or could be a flop - it's hard to factor him in without seeing him, but the expectation is that he will be developed down back.

Of the others, JOD is a defender who only played forward to expose him to AFL - and we lack young key defenders, so there's absolutely no issue there.

It really then comes down to Naughton (signed for 9 years so good luck), JUH (if you believe those on here, about to sign for 5-6 years), and Darcy (F/S). Their roles all compliment each other, and Naughton's incredible ground game & defensive pressure mean we're basically only playing two KPFs. Darcy is the reserve ruck/fwd so it should all work. I have absolutely no concerns about the three of them fitting in the same team - but even if they do struggle, Naughton can play both ends.

Croft is probably the one where it's unclear how he fits. If he makes it as a defender, it's actually super easy - 3 KPFs and 2 KPDs is a fine structure. If he proves to be a forward, one of them is probably gettable.

 

[weltschmerz]

Firstly apologies for the intrusion but this has been on my mind for a while and the Doggies find more each year.
Who better to ask, than the people ITK.

With all the talls that the Doggies have (amazing group of young talls), could they all play in the same side, or are they gettable down the track.

Not including AA ruckman

Lobb - 30 - No great loss
Keith - 31 - Not long left
Naughton - 23 - First I cant believe he is only 23, not going anywhere
JUH - 21 - Could be anything
Darcy - 20 - Young but has talent
O'Donnell - 21 - Has shown a bit
Croft - Draftee.

Even when Keith retires and Lobb is gone (sorry but I don't get the Lobb acquisition), that is still a lot of 2 mt players wanting games.

Can they all play together?
Will they have the patience to wait for their time?
Who if any, could look elsewhere?

Down the line, I'm hoping our tall setup has JOD, Busslinger, and Croft down back, and Naughton, JUH, and Darcy up forward, with Darcy and Croft taking the ruck contests in those areas of the ground.

 

[jakson68]

I have some concerns over JUH going elsewhere and not sure about where Busslinger fits in all of this
You were also missing Liam Jones to who wouldn’t have long left either

Yeah I saw Jones as a gap fill until some of the youngsters come good.

This may get shot down but from an outsiders POV, I thought Naughton could be one of the leagues best CHB.
With his marking ability, he could be Darcy Moore on steroids.
I know he is your focal point up forward but more and more now, attacks start from defense.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Yeah I saw Jones as a gap fill until some of the youngsters come good.

This may get shot down but from an outsiders POV, I thought Naughton could be one of the leagues best CHB.
With his marking ability, he could be Darcy Moore on steroids.
I know he is your focal point up forward but more and more now, attacks start from defense.

There's a hope around here that Croft has some Moore like qualities (we should be so lucky)

 

[Dav1d]

Yeah I saw Jones as a gap fill until some of the youngsters come good.

This may get shot down but from an outsiders POV, I thought Naughton could be one of the leagues best CHB.
With his marking ability, he could be Darcy Moore on steroids.
I know he is your focal point up forward but more and more now, attacks start from defense.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see with Croft and others, might still happen in a pinch or if Naughton is having a stinker up forward

 

[jakson68]

Down the line, I'm hoping our tall setup has JOD, Busslinger, and Croft down back, and Naughton, JUH, and Darcy up forward, with Darcy and Croft taking the ruck contests in those areas of the ground.

Key position talls are not easy to come by, you have done so well with that group.
Well done.