List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Millky95]

t minus 15 mins till "Brodie Grundy signs with Sydney" day

Trading players is from the 9th iirc

 

[Adnico26Parker]

From the HSun (nothing new):

The footy world expects Brodie Grundy

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Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

to be well and truly moved in to a harbourside villa by the early days of the trade period, likely for an early second-round pick. He will be joined by James Jordon, as the fellow Demon walks to the Swans as a free agent. Left-footer Dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

Age

23

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

wants out and the former No.5 draft pick would be a great fit at North Melbourne. What the return is for such a high-valued talent will be interesting. The Swans missed Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

and need some defensive help so will no doubt continue to sniff around the market.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-likely-ins-and-outs-at-every-club-this-trade-period/news-story/dac6b1dd574654af27ca50e548dce2bc?amp&nk=fcd9678bb234fe9ebedea1107157d4bf-1696194495

 

[momentbymoment]

Getting excited about the potential Recruits then remember that Mills will be out for most of the season.

Note to self …
Must stop caring.
Must stop caring.
Must stop cari…

 

[BloodySwan]

Getting excited about the potential Recruits then remember that Mills will be out for most of the season.

Note to self …
Must stop caring.
Must stop caring.
Must stop cari…

It just means Mills will be ready for the important part of the season

 

[Cadsky]

It just means Mills will be ready for the important part of the season

Hopefully. Match fitness will be an issue.

 

[BloodySwan]

I feel pretty confident we'll get very little in return for Stephens

 

[Kiama Chris]

I feel pretty confident we'll get very little in return for Stephens

The old story. Out of contract. We have no leverage. May as well be a free agent.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

Hopefully. Match fitness will be an issue.

I hope we don’t rush him back. I imagine with a shoulder injury that he will still be able to get a lot of running and skills work in. However, I also imagine that he will struggle to do much weights, and he plays positions where strength and stability in the shoulder is important.

Mills is the kind of guy to rush back as well. He doesn’t know his own limits (in a good way). I reckon hold him back 2-3 weeks longer than he wants and then unleash him on the comp. Don’t have him come back hungry, have him come back hangry.

I want him coming back so primed that he destroys Gulden’s chance at a Brownlow.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

The old story. Out of contract. We have no leverage. May as well be a free agent.

I might regret saying this, but sometimes I wish our players would nominate contending clubs so we have some leverage.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

It just means Mills will be ready for the important part of the season

Bit like Danger in 2022 for Cats. Just need to somehow be in a position to finish top 4 when he returns.

 

[Jewelsbon]

The old story. Out of contract. We have no leverage. May as well be a free agent.

Isn't the position with Stevens pretty much identical to the one with Dow?

 

[Jewelsbon]

It just means Mills will be ready for the important part of the season

That's it!

 

[Wolfgang West]

He’s signed until 2026 so any talk of delisting is frankly embarrassing

Well that's embarrassing.

 

[Arwib]

Why is it that the Dogs, Geelong and other Vic clubs seem to have a constant supply of father/Son selections yet we get f all.
Is there something in the Sydney water??

A lot is random chance but I'm guessing we had less 100 game players in the 80s and early 90s than some other clubs.

 

[Citrus22]

Seems promising from this package, his clearance numbers were very good this year which would obviously be a big plus for us. Looks a solid natural kick too.

 

[Ed_Gein]

Grundy, Dow, and JJ would be decent, but we really, really need defenders!

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

I wonder if there is a impasse which is preventing Grundy making his request formal.

The silence is a bit odd.

 

[brad cooper]

Seems promising from this package, his clearance numbers were very good this year which would obviously be a big plus for us. Looks a solid natural kick too.

Don't his kicking is that good from what I've watched over the years, however if he can come in and win clearances, feeding it out to the better ball users then he may prove to be a great edition. He certainly works hard.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Don't his kicking is that good from what I've watched over the years, however if he can come in and win clearances, feeding it out to the better ball users then he may prove to be a great edition. He certainly works hard.

Work around his kicking some of the best extractors in the game cant kick

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Grundy, Dow, and JJ would be decent, but we really, really need defenders!

Honestly i think we are better off trialing someone new in defence and see if it works.

Sorta like what Geelong did with Esava, GWS with Himmelberg etc.

Defender tax in the FA/Trade market is just absurd you end up having to part a huge amount of salary cap for a average defender.

 

[Bandicoot]

A lot is random chance but I'm guessing we had less 100 game players in the 80s and early 90s than some other clubs.

Doubt that's the reason.

 

[RilesMacca]

 

[KingV23]

I was reading about what Cornes was saying about Darcy Gardiner

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Darcy Gardiner

Age

28

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

196.1

3star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

196.1

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

- had a good finals series blanketing Curnow and limiting Mihocek to the 1 goal, but only played the 5 games this season. Would anybody be interested in him playing in our defence?

 

[brad cooper]

Doubt that's the reason.

What do you put it down to, I say it's luck.

 

[Ed_Gein]

Honestly i think we are better off trialing someone new in defence and see if it works.

Sorta like what Geelong did with Esava, GWS with Himmelberg etc.

Defender tax in the FA/Trade market is just absurd you end up having to part a huge amount of salary cap for a average defender.

We need a Paddy replacement; a tall defender. The problem is who? Amartey? McLean? Reid is always injured...