List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Ticky009]

Will saints really get both Dow and Shiel? Seems to be a strange midfield acquisition strategy….. basically haven’t developed a top tier mid since Lenny?

As LP1 says, they have Phillipou in the works and he's coming along nicely from all accounts. Its an interesting deal & I'm curious if AFL will allow it but it seems to have travelled a fair way down the path at this point. More importantly, will they allow that type of deal to continue in the future.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

As LP1 says, they have Phillipou in the works and he's coming along nicely from all accounts. Its an interesting deal & I'm curious if AFL will allow it but it seems to have travelled a fair way down the path at this point. More importantly, will they allow that type of deal to continue in the future.

Yeah you know my thoughts on these deals I don't feel they should be allowed but clubs are fine to do it in the meantime.

Sinclair transitioned this year from a HBF to a genuine onballer too, you will see Phillipou go in the middle some part next year. These mature bodies will just help this process.

 

[kickthething]

Based on the past 24hrs, many here would give Logan a life contract if they could. 8 years for a player like Naughton is good business IMO.

The only part of 8 years I get is the impending birth of Tasmania. Clubs may look to extend deals past their debut year.

 

[KingV23]

Shape up or ship off: Melbourne’s ultimatum for Clayton Oliver

Some Demons officials are fed up.

www.sen.com.au

 

[kickthething]

Brodie , if you are reading this you won't be depth at Sydney you will be our number one ruck.

If Brodie is worried about Ladhams, we’ll, we have a problem.

 

[kickthething]

Shape up or ship off: Melbourne’s ultimatum for Clayton Oliver

Some Demons officials are fed up.

www.sen.com.au

Maybe he just wants the same leverage the coach got.

 

[KingV23]

Maybe he just wants the same leverage the coach got.

I think he will end up staying. I hope he does. He can go down as the greatest Demon ever. Not that I care. I just don't want him at Adelaide

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If Brodie is worried about Ladhams, we’ll, we have a problem.

He shouldn't be Ladhams won't play anyway. He'll be the backup, needs to prove himself both on and off the field next year that's all i'll say.

 

[ashep]

Shape up or ship off: Melbourne’s ultimatum for Clayton Oliver

Some Demons officials are fed up.

www.sen.com.au

Melbourne categorically do not want to trade Oliver, a four-time best and fairest winner and a triple All-Australian with a lucrative seven-year contract in place, unless he makes it impossible to be retained.

Oliver has not told Melbourne he wants to be traded.

Really all that needs to be said.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think he will end up staying. I hope he does. He can go down as the greatest Demon ever. Not that I care. I just don't want him at Adelaide

Is it just me or are people overrating how close Adelaide are to being a contender? Every one of their top players had outstanding years not as if they can improve that much. Where are they jumping from 9th to lets say 4th (you need to be top 4 to win).

I just don't see it

 

[dosser]

I enjoyed what someone on the saints board wrote:

My sources on the ground (I'm yet to hear from the ones in the air) are telling me Dougal Howard

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Dougal Howard

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

is refusing to go and has handcuffed himself to one of the bins in the RSEA complex. Unfortunately for Dougal it's just a regular bin that isn't bolted down, but nobody has the heart to tell him.

The Gresham trade has stalled as the Bombers have baulked at Jade's ongoing eyebrow maintenance costs.

Jack Billings

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Jack Billings

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

was asked about his future and his response put the interviewer to sleep.

Zac Jones jumped for joy when he was offered a new contract but tore his quad upon landing

 

[KingV23]

Is it just me or are people overrating how close Adelaide are to being a contender? Every one of their top players had outstanding years not as if they can improve that much. Where are they jumping from 9th to lets say 4th (you need to be top 4 to win).

I just don't see it

Who said I think Adelaide will be a contender? I just don't like them especially after that Dawson trade. A bit salty haha.

 

[rustycrate]

I highly doubt we are in the running but admire your super optimism.

In the meantime this would have no impact, this trade period is all about obtaining depth, our bad run of injuries this year showed just how vulnerable we are without it. Free agents are a free swing who in this case cost us nothing in draft capital and probs not too much coin.

This.

We have 3 major outstanding list issues.
1. Ruck. Solved with Grundy.
2. KPD. Somewhat solved with Hamling. Not ideal but the best we could get now.
3. The getting our hands on the ball first. Maybe Grundy will solve this issue too along with another preseason for our relatively young midfild.

Back to Ticky's post. We got smashed in the VFL this year because our side is very young. Getting in Jordon and other experienced players will shelter our side as our young VFL side matures to offer better competition to our established best 22. These players offer experienced depth to our best 22 as well.

Still a draft the best and trade for need strategy that has served us well for so long.

 

[Cadsky]

Shape up or ship off: Melbourne’s ultimatum for Clayton Oliver

Some Demons officials are fed up.

www.sen.com.au

sounds like more trouble than he's worth

 

[KingV23]

sounds like more trouble than he's worth

I say keep our cash. Lock away Errol & Logan, and we will see what big fishes can be caught next season.

 

[Ticky009]

Interesting article. The ball it seems, is in Oliver's court now. Hopefully he gets himself together and works with the club to get things in order.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Who said I think Adelaide will be a contender? I just don't like them especially after that Dawson trade. A bit salty haha.

Wasn’t talking you just in general every man and his pet is thinking they are contenders. They aren’t.

 

[KingV23]

Wasn’t talking you just in general every man and his pet is thinking they are contenders. They aren’t.

Ahh right, my bad. They look like they are going to be a good side. But I wouldn't call them contenders just yet.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Ahh right, my bad. They look like they are going to be a good side. But I wouldn't call them contenders just yet.

Would not shock to see them go backwards before going forward they get a harder draw next season

 

[Jimbo OZ]

Interesting that the Swans have been mentioned as a club who were coming hard at Naughton forcing the Dogs to offer the 8 year deal. Again, we have helped push a player's contract higher. However, if true, the inference is that we have the ability to absorb a long-term contract on big money.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Interesting that the Swans have been mentioned as a club who were coming hard at Naughton forcing the Dogs to offer the 8 year deal. Again, we have helped push a player's contract higher. However, if true, the inference is that we have the ability to absorb a long-term contract on big money.

Well we did just lose Bud plus Paddy was unexpected

 

[Ticky009]

Interesting that the Swans have been mentioned as a club who were coming hard at Naughton forcing the Dogs to offer the 8 year deal. Again, we have helped push a player's contract higher. However, if true, the inference is that we have the ability to absorb a long-term contract on big money.

Based on my info - what they signed him for pretty much matches what we were offering.

 

[Ticky009]

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Based on my info - what they signed him for pretty much matches what we were offering.

Doesn’t shock me KPP’s that can play both ends don’t grow on trees

 

[dosser]

Doesn’t shock me KPP’s that can play both ends don’t grow on trees

The big ones do. You just have to shake the branches and they fall out.

They usually struggle with no opposable thumbs.