List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Artygunner]

If we don't take Buller in the MSD if he is available, i'll fly up to Sydney and have a full meltdown in front of Sydney HQ.

 

[tombomb]

Kinnear after reading that……

A wing, and a defender, and he is tiny, and he is really young.

That's what Kinnear calls ... Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

 

[ShireSwan]

If we do get a top 5 pick maybe we need to split it and get two in the teens to take a couple of KPDs.
I know it takes them a few years anyways - but maybe taking a couple of the year's best KPDs means they develop quicker than our usual Rookie level picks in that area...But in anycase we need some on the list developing even if we get some in via free agency.
(I have zero knowledge of anyone in the draft)

 

[ShireSwan]

With free agency maturing, it is time to let clubs trade players without their consent.
Can’t have this indirect draft tampering clogging up our league. It’s an absolute joke.

Majority of players simply don't earn enough for this to be an option.
If you're on NBA or EPL money you can afford to drag the wife around with you, not working.
Expecting someone to uproot their life and their family's lives for $350k a year is absurd.

 

[RUNVS]

If we don't take Buller in the MSD if he is available, i'll fly up to Sydney and have a full meltdown in front of Sydney HQ.

Put a couple of pencils up your nose and respond to any question with the word "wibble"

 

[Dubsforsam1]

Would Todd Goldstein

17

Todd Goldstein

Age

36

Ht

201cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

7.5

5star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

32.5

5star

D

16.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

7.4

4star

CL

7.0

5star

HO

32.9

5star

D

5.2

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.6

3star

HO

10.0

5star

be worth getting if Hickey retires?

 

[RUNVS]

Would Todd Goldstein be worth getting if Hickey retires?

He is an old man. Will be moving into a retirement home in 3 years.

 

[Dubsforsam1]

He is an old man. Will be moving into a retirement home in 3 years.

Agreed but 2 years of top quality ruck work could be invaluable to our team.

 

[RUNVS]

Agreed but 2 years of top quality ruck work could be invaluable to our team.

3 years from a retirement home but he will be done at an AFL level well before that.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Majority of players simply don't earn enough for this to be an option.
If you're on NBA or EPL money you can afford to drag the wife around with you, not working.
Expecting someone to uproot their life and their family's lives for $350k a year is absurd.

Wow you must lead a good life! I'd uproot for $350k a year and I live a life most would envy!

Would Todd Goldstein be worth getting if Hickey retires?

He's nearly 3 years older than Hickey!

 

[anotherletdown]

If we don't take Buller in the MSD if he is available, i'll fly up to Sydney and have a full meltdown in front of Sydney HQ.

Luckily WC will save you the youtube embarassment

 

[Ballarat Bob]

Would Todd Goldstein be worth getting if Hickey retires?

Few years ago his contract was up with North and I didn't think there was much interest , I was annoyed we didn't have a go at him.
Great ruckman but had the misfortune to play for North. Probably on his last legs now but still a formidable opponent.

 

[Shaq_01]

Of course we will draft Kirk

And then we will put him FB and watch him blow away every time Hawkins sneezes

 

[Dubai Quacker]

That young George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

looks promising, but can’t get a game with Carlton.

What do you reckon, might go OK as a Swan?

caesar88, thoughts?

 

[Neverwas]

watched that game and another Preston game. He just does not look strong and fit enough for mine. Reckon he needs a lot of development and at 25 that would be difficult.

I would prefer Phillips who is ready to go.

Interesting that Ryan is one of a dozen MSD prospects sent for a medical.

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[caesar88]

That young George Hewett looks promising, but can’t get a game with Carlton.

What do you reckon, might go OK as a Swan?

caesar88, thoughts?

Not needed. The role of quality mid being wasted is already occupied at the Swans. Sorry George!

 

[anotherletdown]

If we do get a top 5 pick maybe we need to split it and get two in the teens to take a couple of KPDs.
I know it takes them a few years anyways - but maybe taking a couple of the year's best KPDs means they develop quicker than our usual Rookie level picks in that area...But in anycase we need some on the list developing even if we get some in via free agency.
(I have zero knowledge of anyone in the draft)

I'm on board with this. Last year I wanted to split our first, not trade it. The big call might be to hold ours and hunt Gold Coast's first, they must trade that.

Connor O'Sullivan and Joel Freijah are the ones I like in the back half of the first round. Joel Freijah is a late birthday but already 191 and 85kgs, a defender hoping to move into midfielder. O'Sullivan is 198 but hard to pidgeon hole, plays midfield one week KPP the next, probably a CHB at AFL level. Logan Evans is your Michelaney clone if they follow the same intentions they had last year

 

[Punts]

I can’t see us going to the draft again with all picks

We need mature recruits

 

[ashep]

Wait, Hewett is playing VFL???

 

[caesar88]

I can’t see us going to the draft again with all picks

We need mature recruits

Agreed. Club will want to capitalise while we've got Mills, Heeney, Papley. Whoever we draft this year in all likelihood never plays in a grand final with those guys.

 

[KingV23]

Wait, Hewett is playing VFL???

Yup, ommitted. Probably end up a sub though

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Wait, Hewett is playing VFL???

He is indeed.

Or sub at best.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Agreed. Club will want to capitalise while we've got Mills, Heeney, Papley. Whoever we draft this year in all likelihood never plays in a grand final with those guys.

I’m not sure about that - the blokes you’ve mentioned still have a good 5 years ahead of them. Possibly more.

Having said that - I agree that a bit of 22-26 age range talent does look essential.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

I can’t see us going to the draft again with all picks

We need mature recruits

I can

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Agreed. Club will want to capitalise while we've got Mills, Heeney, Papley. Whoever we draft this year in all likelihood never plays in a grand final with those guys.

Lets be honest Heeney and to a lesser extent Mills have had disapointing careers so far in perspective where they were taken.

Mills is nowhere near the caliber of Oliver and Heeney well is a B grader at best.