List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Bandicoot]

Wines plays for Port, and likely to be their new captain

Stupid me. I need to delete that post.

 

[Bandicoot]

I think Dees might pay some as well….unless they take a 3rd rounder for him

Why would they?

 

[Bandicoot]

You keep putting Wines playing for Crows but he plays for Port. Just fixed this post for you.

This is what dementia does to you Ticky.

 

[Ticky009]

Stick to 2023 Trade discussions everyone. Thanks!

 

[Tomorrow]

8 years for Naughton..?
Far out...
not going to be Beveridges problem...he will be shownthe door by mid season '24 I expect...

Put Mills up for trade...send a message..,...

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Naughton is B+ at best and he is given 8 years? Is there an advantage for clubs tying a player up for this long? My only guess would be they can offer slightly less per year because they’re guaranteeing the money for so long.


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[Swannie0307]

When coming up with hypothetical trades, don’t bother throwing in names like Heeney & Mills. These local boys will just not move interstate! Pretty confident (and praying) the same will apply to the likes of Gulden & Campbell

 

[bedford]

When coming up with hypothetical trades, don’t bother throwing in names like Heeney & Mills. These local boys will just not move interstate! Pretty confident (and praying) the same will apply to the likes of Gulden & Campbell

But they do , welcome to BF BULLSHITE THREAD

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

When coming up with hypothetical trades, don’t bother throwing in names like Heeney & Mills. These local boys will just not move interstate! Pretty confident (and praying) the same will apply to the likes of Gulden & Campbell

Agree with this. It seems odd that one of the common complaints is Victorian teams luring players back home and that we need more NSW-born talent, but let’s ship two of the best academy players off for a massive contract that may have a few red flags attached.

I’d like to get Oliver. Sure. No way in hell do I want him at that price, though.


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[Tomorrow]

Keep it on track young fella....just stirring the pot..")

 

[Dubai Quacker]

It wasn’t that long ago that contracts >3 years didn’t happen.

I’m struggling to think of any long-term mega deal that’s been successful thus far (the Buddy deal just gets a pass from me) …. but the clangers are mounting.

Naughton is a surprise …. and a big risk. Here’s hoping it turns out to be as successful as a Polec coupled with a hint of Grundy and a smattering of Rory Atkins

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[Dan87]

Naughton is B+ at best and he is given 8 years? Is there an advantage for clubs tying a player up for this long? My only guess would be they can offer slightly less per year because they’re guaranteeing the money for so long.


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I think big money players on long term contracts can reward the club by agreeing to be paid a total amount over a duration. Allowing the club to adjust the exact amount per year depending on trade market or contract pay outs or list goals etc

If you have a few players like this you can find cap space when you need it easier

 

[mtooler]

Clayton's kicking is the 7th worse in the league.

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Someone will have company then!

 

[Swannie0307]

Keep it on track young fella....just stirring the pot..")

Nah wasn’t actually having a crack at you mate, could tell u were joking… but others have been throwing up Heeney’s name , and I just can’t see him (& Mills, Gulden, Campbell etc) ever moving interstate, mainly for family reasons, but also out of loyalty to the academy program.

 

[Shaq_01]

He has played key back

I mentioned him a few months ago

Lions have a outstanding deep defence and Tom does have some talent

Since we do need a key back as a emergency option

Tom does have some highly desirable traits - size speed athletic decent kick

Brisbane's Tom Fullarton, a versatile tall/ruck, is out of contract and has caught rival interest as well. – Callum Twomey

Thoughts on Fullarton? Good size. He’s a forward, but could he be a KPD?

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[bloodsbigot]

It still annoys me a bit that when we finally get a competent AFL player from Sydney like Heeney we fork out 800-900k.

I thought that once we had some local talent we wouldn't need to pay them that much to keep them at the club.

Look at Geelong. They pay their players peanuts and they stick around.

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

It still annoys me a bit that when we finally get a competent AFL player from Sydney like Heeney we fork out 800-900k.

I thought that once we had some local talent we wouldn't need to pay them that much to keep them at the club.

Look at Geelong. They pay their players peanuts and they stick around.

Do we actually know what Geelong pay and what other under the table investments they can offer to perhaps offset smaller contracts?


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[dosser]

It wasn’t that long ago that contracts >3 years didn’t happen.

I’m struggling to think of any long-term mega deal that’s been successful thus far (the Buddy deal just gets a pass from me) …. but the clangers are mounting.

Naughton is a surprise …. and a big risk. Here’s hoping it turns out to be as successful as a Polec coupled with a hint of Grundy and a smattering of Rory Atkins

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Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

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82kg

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Def

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Last 5

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19.9

5star

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12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

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Alastair Lynch was looking rocky at the halfway point of his 10 year deal but ended up being very good for all parties.

 

[BloodySwan]

Why wouldn't the Bulldogs sign an 8 year contract for Naughton? Key forwards don't grow on trees and he'll only be 24 when the new season comes around

 

[Membling]

Why wouldn't the Bulldogs sign an 8 year contract for Naughton? Key forwards don't grow on trees and he'll only be 24 when the new season comes around

Well, a simple one is how do they play all of JUH, Naughton, Croft and Darcy.

If he goes down the pecking order, may be difficult to do anything.

Bird in and and two in the bush and all that however....

 

[wilsonmatic]

Yes probably paying overs for Heeney but with all the marketing he does for the swans i don't think they care!
I think he's a star player, just not a superstar.. But few are.

 

[BloodySwan]

Well, a simple one is how do they play all of JUH, Naughton, Croft and Darcy.

If he goes down the pecking order, may be difficult to do anything.

Bird in and and two in the bush and all that however....

Still a few years away before that could become a problem. Only 2 of them have proven AFLA level and one hasn't even been drafted.

Plus Naughton can play defence, Darcy has played forward, defence and ruck or you could find a way JUH runs through the middle like Buddy did in the past or Roughead when playing ruck

 

[ashep]

Based on the past 24hrs, many here would give Logan a life contract if they could. 8 years for a player like Naughton is good business IMO.

 

[bedford]

Laughing at Kane Cornes unleashing on 8 years for Naughton and then read out all the forwards that have kicked more than him this year .

 

[KingV23]

Based on the past 24hrs, many here would give Logan a life contract if they could. 8 years for a player like Naughton is good business IMO.

Absoloutely. And for whatever reason he may want to return home in the future, they have all leverage.