Trades 2023 Fantasy Round 5 Trades

[WaynesWorld19]

Have revised trades on the back of where my rookies currently are on field (makes more sense playing Hollands on field than Cowan or McVee for example).

Have liked Dan Rioli all season, so this gives me the excuse to get him and bank some cash to grab Oliver and English over the next 2 weeks. Ginbey out for Hunt if he doesn't play seems solid too. Otherwise a different rook/different move.

Doch > D. Rioli
Ginbey > J. Hunt

284K remaining

DEF: Naicos, Dawson, D. Rioli, Stocker, J.Hunt, Wilmot (Cowan, W. Day)

MID: Laird, Taranto, T. Green, Setterfield, Rozee, Ashcroft, C.Mackenzie, O. Hollands (Davey Jnr., McVee)

RUC: R. Marshall, S. Darcy (McAndrew)

FWD: Dunkley, Gulden, Ziebell, Sheezel, Chandler, Pedlar (JVR, F. Greene)

UTL: (Chesser)

As a GEEL supporter, you don't like Stewart over Rioli ?

 

[Shadow89]

As a GEEL supporter, you don't like Stewart over Rioli ?

I do not.

I kept these thoughts to myself pre-Hawks game because I didn't know if I'd be right, but, Dunc and Zuthrie just take too many points off him for him to be a viable choice priced in the 700's.

If he drops into the 600's he's a Ridley type and worth the punt, but on any given week it's impossible to see who'll be switching/intercepting/racking up disposal back there.

He's always going to pump out a score here and there, but consistency wise, it's not gonna be a fun ride - especially given we are not really a high scoring Fantasy team.

 

[Exambolor]

Bit of context for Andy Bray’s underperformance and slow starts the past couple of weeks. Still impressive he got to 100+ on Saturday. At full strength he’ll be dropping the 115-120s again, and it least it’s not Serong stealing all his touches

 

[Exambolor]

I do not.

I kept these thoughts to myself pre-Hawks game because I didn't know if I'd be right, but, Dunc and Zuthrie just take too many points off him for him to be a viable choice priced in the 700's.

If he drops into the 600's he's a Ridley type and worth the punt, but on any given week it's impossible to see who'll be switching/intercepting/racking up disposal back there.

He's always going to pump out a score here and there, but consistency wise, it's not gonna be a fun ride - especially given we are not really a high scoring Fantasy team.

Plus this week it’s another unfriendly matchup in the Eagles. The ball likely isn’t gonna spend much time in the WC forward line so I wouldn’t be shocked if another 70 is on the cards.

Agree on the consistency point too. One week he could get you a 170, next week he drops a 60 odd

 

[Barnzy]

I do not.

I kept these thoughts to myself pre-Hawks game because I didn't know if I'd be right, but, Dunc and Zuthrie just take too many points off him for him to be a viable choice priced in the 700's.

If he drops into the 600's he's a Ridley type and worth the punt, but on any given week it's impossible to see who'll be switching/intercepting/racking up disposal back there.

He's always going to pump out a score here and there, but consistency wise, it's not gonna be a fun ride - especially given we are not really a high scoring Fantasy team.

Stewart

2019 - 95 avg
2020 - mid 90's adjusted
2021 - 96.8
2022 - 94.4
2023 - 98 (removing inj game)

Why the pessimism? He's 733k lol which is priced at around low 80 roughly if my math works.

Stewart always drops a bunch of 70 games but then balances it out with bigger games

 

[Shadow89]

Stewart

2019 - 95 avg
2020 - mid 90's adjusted
2021 - 96.8
2022 - 94.4
2023 - 98 (removing inj game)

Why the pessimism? He's 733k lol which is priced at around low 80 roughly if my math works.

Stewart always drops a bunch of 70 games but then balances it out with bigger games

Look at his average for the second half of the year. First half was clear No.1 , as Dunc was nowhere near the backline, and no-one else took possession.

Then, as the season went on and we adjusted to our game plan, Zuth got more responsibility, Duncan went back to replace Stewart when he was suspended, and Tuohy headed down back as well.

1st half 2022 (10 games): 116.4

2nd half 2022: (9 games - removing injury affected 44 and including Finals games): 74.4

2nd half of the season more accurately reflects how we'll be playing this year, when our game is up and running.

He's currently priced around 83, so I reckon he has about 5-7 points of upside at best. He may drop a big game this week, but overall I don't see him averaging much more than 88-90, all things considered.

Reckon Rioli for an extra 47K is money better spent. Or even Rivers or Hunt for 140-220K less with very low BE's.

 

[Barnzy]

Look at his average for the second half of the year. First half was clear No.1 , as Dunc was nowhere near the backline, and no-one else took possession.

Then, as the season went on and we adjusted to our game plan, Zuth got more responsibility, Duncan went back to replace Stewart when he was suspended, and Tuohy headed down back as well.

1st half 2022 (10 games): 116.4

2nd half 2022: (9 games - removing injury affected 44 and including Finals games): 74.4

2nd half of the season more accurately reflects how we'll be playing this year, when our game is up and running.

He's currently priced around 83, so I reckon he has about 5-7 points of upside at best. He may drop a big game this week, but overall I don't see him averaging much more than 88-90, all things considered.

Reckon Rioli for an extra 47K is money better spent. Or even Rivers or Hunt for 140-220K less with very low BE's.

Fair enough.

I'm not worried at all. Stewart is quality. I'm looking for value at this time of the year. If I get a 90 avg at an 80ish price I'm happy and I'll move him on during the byes/later in the year. But I think he can push 95 again.

 

[amazingjoshy]

 

[Exambolor]

Even VFL coaches are the master of vagueness

 

[tigs2010]

Even VFL coaches are the master of vagueness

Reads like he has no defensive game and he won't debut this year

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[11kgm]

So Witts in doubt, Ginbey in doubt, Wilmont in debt, Chesser dead, Day didn't have the good player plot armour, Doch out for 2 months

Hayden Young

26

Hayden Young

Age

23

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

160.0

3star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

MG

160.0

3star

Stocker and Cowan is my backline

 

[Freo_4eva]

So whats the consensus on Day/Doch?

Throwing a spanner in the works is MM's keeness on Stewart still - bloke has been mediocre for ages surely? He's also not keen on Weller who was my first thought for the Doch trade.

 

[Skippos]

Look at his average for the second half of the year. First half was clear No.1 , as Dunc was nowhere near the backline, and no-one else took possession.

Then, as the season went on and we adjusted to our game plan, Zuth got more responsibility, Duncan went back to replace Stewart when he was suspended, and Tuohy headed down back as well.

1st half 2022 (10 games): 116.4

2nd half 2022: (9 games - removing injury affected 44 and including Finals games): 74.4

2nd half of the season more accurately reflects how we'll be playing this year, when our game is up and running.

He's currently priced around 83, so I reckon he has about 5-7 points of upside at best. He may drop a big game this week, but overall I don't see him averaging much more than 88-90, all things considered.

Reckon Rioli for an extra 47K is money better spent. Or even Rivers or Hunt for 140-220K less with very low BE's.

I mean if you start the sample the week after he scored a 169 the numbers will always be lower. If you extend that to most 10 recent full games that year it's 84 not 74.4. And of those 9 games, he was forward tagged in at least 3. Plus, the injury game in there he was flying (44 at QT before the injury).

I do understand the scepticism, but I think he'll be fine in a season of not amazingly value defensive options. He'll still have some kickins, he'll be solid for time on ground, like all defenders he'll benefit from kick to kick a bit and the +6s, but he'll get enough points just through his own intercepting most of the time to be fine. Especially back end of the year with all the Kardinia games.

 

[Jessbek]

Even VFL coaches are the master of vagueness

Ooh baby, an upgrade/downgrade of young and ginbey to Oliver and fahey when ziebell and sheezel switch back next week sounds delicious. Carnage inbound as a result

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So Witts in doubt, Ginbey in doubt, Wilmont in debt

Feeling is that all 3 should be picked this week ....not sure about Wilmot's debt situation though .....hope it doesn't impact his Fantasy Scores

 

[MP_]

So far I’ve done
Doch > Stewart
Davey > kozi

 

[Barnzy]

JVR might be dropped

 

[tigs2010]

JVR might be dropped

of course lol

 

[happy_eagle]

So Witts in doubt, Ginbey in doubt, Wilmont in debt, Chesser dead, Day didn't have the good player plot armour, Doch out for 2 months

Hayden Young Stocker and Cowan is my backline

Should be playing then, he'll need the match fee.

 

[damunga]

Or should I trade Dunkley for Oliver instead of Davey for Pickett.

I feel like Pickett can rise to 700kish, extremely low BE and has the role. Look at other forwards around that 700k price range, and he can easily match their scoring

 

[saintkildaman]

Thinking of banking the cash this round, Doc > Dawson, Day > Rivers.

Leaves 287k in the bank, have to carry Titch for one more week which is painful but what can ya do.

 

[happy_eagle]

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Or should I trade Dunkley for Oliver instead of Davey for Pickett.

I feel like Pickett can rise to 700kish, extremely low BE and has the role. Look at other forwards around that 700k price range, and he can easily match their scoring

What concerns me about Pickett is the number of scoring shots he needs to score well. He's going to have quiet games

 

[MP_]

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What concerns me about Pickett is the number of scoring shots he needs to score well. He's going to have quiet games

First game had 4 fa, and second game 5 behinds so both his scores could have been a lot bigger too. I’m getting him this week just to give a bit of cash gen compared.

 

[kozi]

Day and Rohan both challenging

Rohan 1 down to 0 and Day 2 up to 3.. what are the odds