List Mgmt. 2023 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade, Draft

[Giant Strides]

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Here's the list of GWS players who are out of contract in 2023 (I'll progressively cross them out as they re-sign):

• Lachie ASH
• Callan WARD (Free Agent)
• Brayden PREUSS
• Tom GREEN
• Finn CALLAGHAN
• Lachlan KEEFFE (Free Agent)
• Jake RICCARDI
• Harry HIMMELBERG (Free Agent)
• Cam FLEETON - delisted (25/9/23)
• Matt FLYNN (Free Agent) - signed by West Coast as an Unrestricted Free Agent
• Xavier O'HALLORAN
• Jack BUCKLEY
• Callum BROWN

Rookie lists:

• Phil DAVIS (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Jacob WEHR (Free agent)
• Dan LLOYD (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Cooper HAMILTON
• Wade DERKSEN
• Nick MADDEN (Cat B) - assumed re-signed due to 2 sources of info
• Jason GILBEE (Cat B) - delisted (25/9/23)

Current list sizes (for when we get to list/draft/trade speculation):

• main list = 36 minus 3 (Fleeton, Flynn + Kennedy delisted with a view to be re-selected in the rookie draft)
• rookie A = 6 minus 2 (Davis, Lloyd)
• rookie B = 2 minus 1 (Gilbee)
• total = 44 minus 5

This is the future pick spreadsheet that comes into play only at trade time, as future picks are used in end of season (2023) trading:


Here's the 2023 AFL Academy Squad, so these (roughly) represent the best players for next year as they stand now:

2023 NAB AFL ACADEMY​

NAME	SURNAME	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
Lachlan	Cabor	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Shellharbour
Nate	Caddy	VIC M	Northern Knights	Yarrambat
Jack	Callinan	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Clarence
Caiden	Cleary	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
Daniel	Curtin	WA	Claremont	West Coast
Jack	Delean	SA	South Adelaide	Reynella
Zane	Duursma	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Foster
Mitchell	Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah
William	Green	VIC M	Northern Knights	Northcote
Riley	Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham
William	Lorenz	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Boroondara Hawks
Kane	McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta
Colby	McKercher	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Launceston
Ashton	Moir	SA	Glenelg	Plympton
Connor	O'Sullivan	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury
William	Patton	SA	West Adelaide	Mitcham
Nathan	Philactides	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
Ethan	Read	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Archer	Reid	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Inverloch-Kongwak
Harley	Reid	VIC C	Bendigo Pioneers	Tongala
Archie	Roberts	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers
Jake	Rogers	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Broadbeach
Ryley	Sanders	TAS	Sandringham Dragons	North Launceston
Cooper	Simpson	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Mount Martha
George	Stevens	VIC C	GWV Rebels	South Warrnambool
Koltyn	Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown-Condingup
Orlando	Turner	NT	West Adelaide	South Alice Springs
Jed	Walter	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Nick	Watson	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	East Ringwood
Darcy	Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers

Happy speculating for 2023!

EDIT: 11/12/22 - Added Free Agent status to OOC player list
EDIT: 24/2/23 - Crossed out Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo!!) & Added 2023 Coates Talent League Fixture Link
EDIT: 27/2/23 - Crossed out Finn Callaghan from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo Hoo!!!)
EDIT: 27/4/23 - Crossed out Jacob Wehr from OOC player list
EDIT: 10/5/23 - Crossed out Jack Buckley from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/7/23 - Crossed out Callum Brown from OOC player list
EDIT: 18/7/23 - Crossed out Lachie Ash from OOC player list
EDIT: 20/7/23 - Crossed out Xavier O'Halloran from OOC player list
EDIT: 3/8/23 - Crossed out Harry Himmelberg from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/8/23 - Crossed out Wade Derksen from OOC player list
EDIT: 17/8/23 - Noted Dan Lloyd retiring at end of season
EDIT: 19/8/23 - Crossed out Jake Riccardi from OOC player list
EDIT: 28/8/23 - Noted Phil Davis

1

Phil Davis

Age

34

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.7

4star

MG

55.5

1star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

55.5

1star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

retiring at end of season
EDIT: 25/9/23 - Noted Cam Fleeton & Jason Gilbee delisted
EDIT: 4/10/23 - Noted Flynn, Preuss & Keeffe situations
EDIT: 9/10/23 - Updated Flynn to WCE, removed Preuss from OOC player list
EDIT: 12/10/23 - Updated Madden with 2 sources of information
EDIT: 19/10/23 - Updated Keeffe & Hamilton re-signed
EDIT: 31/10/23 - adjusted main list numbers with Adam Kennedy

40

Adam Kennedy

Age

32

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

245.6

4star

D

1.0

1star

K

1.0

1star

HB

0.0

1star

M

0.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

10.0

1star

D

18.6

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.4

4star

delisting (with a view to be re-selected in rookie draft)

 

[Giant Strides]

How tall is he?

Allies annihilate WA in championship statement

The Allies have moved to 2-0 in the 2023 AFL Under 18 National Championships, after powering past Western Australia to the tune of 88 points.

central.rookieme.com

THE ALLIES stamped their credentials as a genuine title contender in the AFL Under 18 National Championships, after thumping Western Australia by 88 points at Thebarton Oval today. Having knocked off South Australia at the same venue last week, the multi-state collective made it two wins from as many games in the comprehensive 16.12 (108) to 2.8 (20) beating.

Dual unanswered streaks of eight goals split Western Australia’s two majors, with the Black Ducks having no answer for the Allies’ midfield dominance. Tall forwards Charlie McCormack (four goals) and Jed Walter (three) dined out, while livewire small Jack Callinan joined in on the act as the trio combined for two-thirds of their side’s score.

RMC BEST:

Allies: R. Sanders, C. McKercher, J. Walter, C. McCormack, J. Callinan, C. O’Sullivan, E. Read

 

[PaythePerryman]

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Allies annihilate WA in championship statement

The Allies have moved to 2-0 in the 2023 AFL Under 18 National Championships, after powering past Western Australia to the tune of 88 points.

central.rookieme.com

THE ALLIES stamped their credentials as a genuine title contender in the AFL Under 18 National Championships, after thumping Western Australia by 88 points at Thebarton Oval today. Having knocked off South Australia at the same venue last week, the multi-state collective made it two wins from as many games in the comprehensive 16.12 (108) to 2.8 (20) beating.

Dual unanswered streaks of eight goals split Western Australia’s two majors, with the Black Ducks having no answer for the Allies’ midfield dominance. Tall forwards Charlie McCormack (four goals) and Jed Walter (three) dined out, while livewire small Jack Callinan joined in on the act as the trio combined for two-thirds of their side’s score.

RMC BEST:

Allies: R. Sanders, C. McKercher, J. Walter, C. McCormack, J. Callinan, C. O’Sullivan, E. Read

I wonder where McCormack is rated draft wise. Could be a handy pick up.

 

[Giant Strides]

I wonder where McCormack is rated draft wise. Could be a handy pick up.

Not in any ratings that I've seen to date. Most only go to about 50 or so. I'd suggest that he'd be a likely Sproule-type speculative rookie pick-up ... unless his championships play elevates him. But he's not a robust Jed Walter-type bull KPF. I'm sure PMBangers can give a better perspective.

 

[Giant Pete]

Looking forward to next year… I can see Fahey locking down a wing spot. He’s got a good tank and we are only just starting to see how damaging his kicking can be.
I think Jones will be very good.

Idun Taylor Whitfield
Cumming Buckley Ash
Callaghan Cogs Fahey
Greene Cadman Daniels
Bedford Hogan Jones

Briggs Kelly Green

Riccardi HH Ward Perryman/XOH

Throw in two top ten picks to add to the likes of McMullin, Gruzewski etc.

 

[PMBangers]

Not in any ratings that I've seen to date. Most only go to about 50 or so. I'd suggest that he'd be a likely Sproule-type speculative rookie pick-up ... unless his championships play elevates him. But he's not a robust Jed Walter-type bull KPF. I'm sure PMBangers can give a better perspective.

If he continues this Champs form he'll be a second round selection, his work on the lead is exceptional due to his hands and speed off the mark, but right now he's very much a 'stay at home' FF, so a big development area for him is going to be working up the ground

 

[sydney_gws]

If he continues this Champs form he'll be a second round selection, his work on the lead is exceptional due to his hands and speed off the mark, but right now he's very much a 'stay at home' FF, so a big development area for him is going to be working up the ground

Is he in our academy zone? Which part. Hopefully they don't change the boundaries again.

 

[PMBangers]

Is he in our academy zone? Which part. Hopefully they don't change the boundaries again.

He is in our Academy zone but I don't really know where from exactly (mostly due to laziness), I'm assuming Canberra area

 

[sydney_gws]

According to Rioli2Rioli , HH won't go to Richmond now Dimma has left. Hopefully this is true ( and he stays here).

 

[Giant Strides]

Is he in our academy zone? Which part. Hopefully they don't change the boundaries again.

He is in our Academy zone but I don't really know where from exactly (mostly due to laziness), I'm assuming Canberra area

From around Coolamon. (Canberra's close I guess!)

 

[Orange Agent]

Jake Barrett

Jake Barrett

Age

28

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

5.3

2star

HB

8.3

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

0.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.6

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

6.2

5star

G

0.2

3star

recruited him to Coolamon this year, he was in the Farrer league with a club north of Griffith. Riverina league is a better standard, some good players in it which is odd given the size of some of the towns and the distance to travel to matches. Not that they will get much value out of him, will probably be in our 2's for a few games now.

 

[Giant Pete]

Love that Briggs is a local boy… we should be advertising the crap out of him. Any really big young lads who want something different to rugby codes could try out AFL.

 

[JC100]

Love that Briggs is a local boy… we should be advertising the crap out of him. Any really big young lads who want something different to rugby codes could try out AFL.

It’s a grand old flag…! He should be the poster boy as potentially our first genuine western syd product to be a regular beat 22 player.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

We started the year with 20 of our 44 players, having contracts that expire at the end of 2023.

We have now re-signed 4 of these players, including the prized signings of Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

, Callaghan and Buckley (and Jacob Wehr).

Of the remaining 16 players whose contract will expire this year, I think

• we will make offers to the following 7 with Himmelberg and Ash being the priorities and drawing the interests of other clubs: Himmelberg, Ash, Ward, Flynn, O’Halloran as well as our two Cat B Rookies Gillbee and Nick Madden
• Cut Davis and Preuss
• Not sure about these 7 remaining players as you would think Kingsley will need to cut at least a couple more: Daniel Lloyd
  38

  Daniel Lloyd

  Age

  32

  Ht

  187cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  11.5

  3star

  K

  6.4

  3star

  HB

  5.1

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  3.0

  5star

  G

  0.8

  4star

  D

  7.5

  2star

  K

  5.5

  2star

  HB

  2.0

  1star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  3.2

  4star

  G

  0.5

  4star

  D

  11.6

  3star

  K

  5.4

  2star

  HB

  6.2

  4star

  M

  2.6

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  0.8

  4star

  (rookie list - played 10 games this season), Riccardi (played 8 games), Callum Brown (played 6 games), Cooper Hamilton (played 4 games before injury), Keeffe (played 3 games), Cameron Fleeton (rookie list - played 2 games) and Derksen (rookie list - yet to debut).

Some hard decisions to be made by our club in the coming months

 

[PaythePerryman]

We started the year with 20 of our 44 players, having contracts that expire at the end of 2023.

We have now re-signed 4 of these players, including the prized signings of Tom Green, Callaghan and Buckley (and Jacob Wehr).

Of the remaining 16 players whose contract will expire this year, I think

• we will make offers to the following 7 with Himmelberg and Ash being the priorities and drawing the interests of other clubs: Himmelberg, Ash, Ward, Flynn, O’Halloran as well as our two Cat B Rookies Gillbee and Nick Madden
• Cut Davis and Preuss
• Not sure about these 7 remaining players as you would think Kingsley will need to cut at least a couple more: Daniel Lloyd (rookie list - played 10 games this season), Riccardi (played 8 games), Callum Brown (played 6 games), Cooper Hamilton (played 4 games before injury), Keeffe (played 3 games), Cameron Fleeton (rookie list - played 2 games) and Derksen (rookie list - yet to debut).

Some hard decisions to be made by our club in the coming months

Davis will go out on the shoulders of Giants.
Keefe will probably call time too.
Flynn and Preuss are interesting cases, do they back themselves to get past Briggs to take back the no1 role and can we risk Preuss with his injury prone ways.
Ricca, Brown, Hamilton should all get contracts.
I like the look of Fleeton and haven't seen heaps of Derksen.
If that's 4 spots. That's our two top picks and mayyyyyybe a free agent.
Or Reid and a free agent or two.

 

[GWS Goose]

We started the year with 20 of our 44 players, having contracts that expire at the end of 2023.

We have now re-signed 4 of these players, including the prized signings of Tom Green, Callaghan and Buckley (and Jacob Wehr).

Of the remaining 16 players whose contract will expire this year, I think

• we will make offers to the following 7 with Himmelberg and Ash being the priorities and drawing the interests of other clubs: Himmelberg, Ash, Ward, Flynn, O’Halloran as well as our two Cat B Rookies Gillbee and Nick Madden
• Cut Davis and Preuss
• Not sure about these 7 remaining players as you would think Kingsley will need to cut at least a couple more: Daniel Lloyd (rookie list - played 10 games this season), Riccardi (played 8 games), Callum Brown (played 6 games), Cooper Hamilton (played 4 games before injury), Keeffe (played 3 games), Cameron Fleeton (rookie list - played 2 games) and Derksen (rookie list - yet to debut).

Some hard decisions to be made by our club in the coming months

I expect that we cut Keefe also.
Derksen is the tough one. All reports seem to be that he is dominating VFL but yet to get a gig. Perhaps they see him below AFL standard in which case he'll be moved on. Id like to see him get a game first

 

[MelbourneGWS]

More praise for Briggs. The AFL world is starting to take notice of his awesome performances in the past few weeks - our clear number 1 ruck

Unheralded Tall Takes GIANT Step into League's Elite

In the past month, only four players in the AFL have bettered GIANTS ruckman Kieren Briggs in Champion Data's Ratings Points.

www.gwsgiants.com.au

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Interview with Ash, whose contract expires this year. Comes across as pretty level headed. Says he will be meeting with his agent to decide on his future, but is very positive with Kingsley’s leadership which bodes well for staying with us. From the article, it would seem to indicate that the club hasn’t made a formal offer (unlike what we did for Himmelberg), but then again Ash asked for a delay till mid season on contract negotiations.

Everything is going really well. We said we were gonna wait until the midpoint of the year and then go from there. My manager is coming up to Sydney (this week), so we'll have a more in-depth about that and then go from there.

Giant Lachie Ash on high expectations, his Dad, GWS future, Heath Shaw and a "whirlwind" open to his career

"I probably haven't started my career as well as I would've liked."

www.zerohanger.com

 

[Giant Pete]

Interview with Ash, whose contract expires this year. Comes across as pretty level headed. Says he will be meeting with his agent to decide on his future, but is very positive with Kingsley’s leadership which bodes well for staying with us. From the article, it would seem to indicate that the club hasn’t made a formal offer (unlike what we did for Himmelberg), but then again Ash asked for a delay till mid season on contract negotiations.

Everything is going really well. We said we were gonna wait until the midpoint of the year and then go from there. My manager is coming up to Sydney (this week), so we'll have a more in-depth about that and then go from there.

Giant Lachie Ash on high expectations, his Dad, GWS future, Heath Shaw and a "whirlwind" open to his career

"I probably haven't started my career as well as I would've liked."

www.zerohanger.com

Last couple of weeks he’s been much better… before that his turnovers were killing us.

 

[Giant Pete]

Callum Brown taking some real steps forward. Can be a weapon.

 

[BarryAglett]

Callum Brown taking some real steps forward. Can be a weapon.

Yes, the goals are nice but he had meaningful possessions and played solidly for 4 qtrs.

 

[sydney_gws]

It’s a grand old flag…! He should be the poster boy as potentially our first genuine western syd product to be a regular beat 22 player.

Need to sign him up. As a free agent for 2025, he will get hig offers. They might even come at end of 2023.

 

[Orange Agent]

Ash might find he could be the Shiel/Taranto of this year. Good players and plenty of teams would be keen, but expendable and have good trade currency. And someone like Fahey could take his role within 12 months.

 

[Orange crush]

I think we might have to accept we aren’t getting 2 top 10 picks

 

[GWS Goose]

I think we might have to accept we aren’t getting 2 top 10 picks

You think one of us or Richmond will make finals

 

[Orange crush]

You think one of us or Richmond will make finals

One or us … if not both