MRP / Trib. 2023 - MRO Chook Lotto - Carlton Tribunal News & Reports

[Aphrodite]

 

[Blue__Balls]

Reckon the MRO saw this as an easy "statement" suspension. Acres has a bung shoulder and probably misses this week against weak opposition, may as well give him a suspension that can be added to the "See, we're taking concussion risk seriously" folder and trust that Carlton won't bother fighting it.

I'm torn on whether we do fight it. Part of me wants to regardless cause it's a shit penalty for incidental contact, but I can also see the tribunal being given a very quiet directive to screw us over as belated punishment for the Cripps appeal last year.

What would our avenues be for an appeal anyway? It's already graded as Careless, and it was definitely High contact - leaves the "Medium Impact" rating, but the AFL have made it very clear that the outcome doesn't necessarily dictate this grading, but the potential for injury - and a shoulder to the jaw definitely has potential for significant damage.

I think we'd have to go in hoping to have it overruled entirely as a reportable offence. Hope that the Tribunal agree that Acres was going in to smother, but due to his injured shoulder was unable to raise his arms properly. Still, seems like it's easily argued the other way by the AFL rep - he chose to come in and pressure the player, didn't try to tackle, and his shoulder made contact with the opponent's jaw.

Long story short....I reckon we just cop this one and give Acres the week off that he probably needs anyway. Keep our powder dry for more important battles.

 

[Revenant1965]

I think we'd have to go in hoping to have it overruled entirely as a reportable offence. Hope that the Tribunal agree that Acres was going in to smother, but due to his injured shoulder was unable to raise his arms properly. Still, seems like it's easily argued the other way by the AFL rep - he chose to come in and pressure the player, didn't try to tackle, and his shoulder made contact with the opponent's jaw.

I think this sums it up well, as I think the incident can be seen either way. However, if it is the former view (Acres should not be suspended) then I think we should appeal irrespective if Acres has to sit out this week due to injury. It's just my opinion, but I don't like the idea of, "We believe he is innocent but we won't fight it because he is injured."

And if we accept the penalty, then I hope (unrealistically) that MRO will adjudge all similar incidents accordingly, as well as go harder at the more serious incidents.

 

[jimsta10]

Could argue this if the club wants. common sense would also argue that Blake didn't want to injure his shoulder more than what it is..but then again its chook lotto.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Could argue this if the club wants. common sense would also argue that Blake didn't want to injure his shoulder more than what it is..but then again its chook lotto.

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Not sure how we'd successfully have it re-graded as body contact when there is clear high contact.

Only options are "Low Impact" (but the Tribunal only has to be satisfied that there was the potential for medium/high impact to quash that) or "Does not constitute a reportable offence" (best chance, but seems a very long shot).

The other consideration is what happens on an unsuccessful appeal. Has he been offered 1 week with the early plea, but challenging it risks 2?

 

[jimsta10]

Not sure how we'd successfully have it re-graded as body contact when there is clear high contact.

Only options are "Low Impact" (but the Tribunal only has to be satisfied that there was the potential for medium/high impact to quash that) or "Does not constitute a reportable offence" (best chance, but seems a very long shot).

The other consideration is what happens on an unsuccessful appeal. Has he been offered 1 week with the early plea, but challenging it risks 2?

They could also bring up recent precedence but not sure if it's going to do good or more harm. But I agree, we need to access the potential risks.

 

[skadoosh]

Club has until 10am today to respond. Guess we will know soon.

 

[NavySteel]

Club has until 10am today to respond. Guess we will know soon.

11:30am.... any news on whether we're going to challenge?

 

[jooce8891]

 

[skadoosh]

Collision in the second quarter doesn't exist. Acres gets off on a technicality

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Blue Ratts]

Carlton and North Melbourne to fight recruits' suspensions as Crow accepts ban

A total of seven charges were handed down from Saturday's action.

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[ferrisb]

Good.

He can still win the Brownlow...

 

[Aphrodite]

Norf challenging as well ...

 

[thylacine60]

I too am challenging! Don't even go there, ferris......

 

[RedFury]

I too am challenging! Don't even go there, ferris......

Impact was graded as "extinction" level. Not sure how you're fighting that one...

 

[Bletch]

Impact was graded as "extinction" level. Not sure how you're fighting that one...

 

[SurreyBlue]

Collision in the second quarter doesn't exist. Acres gets off on a technicality

If this is right and the AFL have flowered up - would love nothing more than to see Christian's excuses......

 

[Blues_1864]

I like that we are challenging here, even if we're unsuccessful and the ban is lengthened. The playing group needs to feel like the Club has their backs when dealing with the Match Review Panel. I don't think expediency should be a consideration - our failure to challenge the ridiculous ban handed to Will Hayes

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Will Hayes

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29

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181cm

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77kg

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M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

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D

15.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.4

3star

last year diminished the whole Club, in my opinion, especially in view of the lengths we went to for Cripps about 5 minutes later.

 

[skadoosh]

I've only just seen Logue's bump....please tell me how that is only worth 1 week?

 

[Aphrodite]

I've only just seen Logue's bump....please tell me how that is only worth 1 week?

He doesn't play for Carlton.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

On SEN Sportsnight, Korn reckons that Acres has a good case to get it overturned - his view is that Acres didn't have a lot of other options, and it was basically incidental contact in a contested situation. On the other hand, he reckons the North bloke doesn't have a leg to stand on - just a bit of a hail mary given the opposition forwards.

Good man, Korn

 

[Gw2_James]

You go korny you go

 

[Gointocarlton]

On SEN Sportsnight, Korn reckons that Acres has a good case to get it overturned - his view is that Acres didn't have a lot of other options, and it was basically incidental contact in a contested situation. On the other hand, he reckons the North bloke doesn't have a leg to stand on - just a bit of a hail mary given the opposition forwards.

Good man, Korn

I agree with Korn

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Not sure how Logue only gets a week, ran straight past the ball contest and bumped with high contact…



TheCircus continues…

 

[Blue and Silver]

I don't think he elected to bump and contact was incidental.

He was trying to smother and his eyes were on the ball