MRP / Trib. 2023 MRP Lotto

[Snake_Baker]

I have little heart attacks whenever I see this thread bumped.

 

[giantroo]

Which young Cat is staring down the barrel of a one-match ban?

Nat Edwards and Riley Beveridge discuss the round 20 incidents that may come under match review scrutiny

m.afl.com.au

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

MRO slaps seven, Gray cops $2K fine

Seven players will have to fork out $13,500 worth of fines from the weekend's action

m.afl.com.au

 

[ferball]

Anyone reported for Hunter's concussion this week? Dunno...

No ...


What a ****en surprise.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Anyone reported for Hunter's concussion this week? Dunno...

No ...


What a fu**en surprise.

Didn't even get a 50m penalty for being dragged to the ground.

 

[Roosurgence]

So Bontempelli hits Haynes late and it’s now reported he could miss weeks with a fractured larynx.

But the mental giant in Christian only claims its low impact.

The MRP is such a farce now.

So why not come out and tell us the impact was high to medium but we gave him the potential Brownlow Medalist discount? Lol

He real question that needs to be answered is, was it malicious?

 

[giantroo]

Bont still a Brownlow chance after quirk of MRO timing, GWS not happy

Superstar Bulldog would likely have faced a hefty suspension had the MRO known of Nick Haynes injury

m.afl.com.au

 

[Mav]

Bont still a Brownlow chance after quirk of MRO timing, GWS not happy

Superstar Bulldog would likely have faced a hefty suspension had the MRO known of Nick Haynes injury

m.afl.com.au

cant the AFL appeal?

 

[DrZaius]

Just shows how ridiculous a system based upon outcome rather than the act itself is

 

[Mav]

Just shows how ridiculous a system based upon outcome rather than the act itself is

no mate, it's not ridiculous. I've pointed this out before, its how our judicial system operates. If I stab someone the outcome will determine my punishment. If the person was to die I would be charged with murder, but if they live the charge would be downgraded.

Likewise, do we penalise people that speed the same as people that speed, causing them to crash and kill someone?

Basing the penalty on the outcome is standard in our society.

 

[Bigming]

Bont should go rad this week, he'll get off anyway. Slide, slide, push it push it ........

 

[LuvtheKangas]

no mate, it's not ridiculous. I've pointed this out before, its how our judicial system operates. If I stab someone the outcome will determine my punishment. If the person was to die I would be charged with murder, but if they live the charge would be downgraded.

Likewise, do we penalise people that speed the same as people that speed, causing them to crash and kill someone?

Basing the penalty on the outcome is standard in our society.

The key difference that you overlook is that in the AFL, players are punished more severely for accidents the have a bad outcome, than those whose deliberate acts luckily don't have a bad outcome (or the bad outcome is realised to late for the judiciary to consider. FFS.)

Stabbing someone is a deliberate bad faith act, and speeding in a car is unacceptable negligence.

Bumping a player who beats you to the ball is part of playing football. No intent, so no sanction is required. Throwing a round arm is a bad act that should be punished for the intent, and the degree of punishment scaled (analogous to your stabbing example).

 

[DrZaius]

no mate, it's not ridiculous. I've pointed this out before, its how our judicial system operates. If I stab someone the outcome will determine my punishment. If the person was to die I would be charged with murder, but if they live the charge would be downgraded.

Likewise, do we penalise people that speed the same as people that speed, causing them to crash and kill someone?

Basing the penalty on the outcome is standard in our society.

Yes but the game is by nature a contact sport so contact will occur, whereas our society is predicated on the assumption that you can live your everyday life without somebody intending to stab you.

You play a game of footy, you're going to tackle and be tackled since it is part of the game. A perfectly executed tackle can injure someone through factors outside the tacklers control and they will get weeks, likewise somebody can literally punch somebody with intent to hurt them and get let off due to insufficient force or area of contact etc.

 

[Mav]

The key difference that you overlook is that in the AFL, players are punished more severely for accidents the have a bad outcome, than those whose deliberate acts luckily don't have a bad outcome (or the bad outcome is realised to late for the judiciary to consider. FFS.)

Stabbing someone is a deliberate bad faith act, and speeding in a car is unacceptable negligence.

Bumping a player who beats you to the ball is part of playing football. No intent, so no sanction is required. Throwing a round arm is a bad act that should be punished for the intent, and the degree of punishment scaled (analogous to your stabbing example).

The problem now is, bumping a player and hitting them in the head is no longer a part of football. . The argument that this is a good or bad thing is a separate argument but I think you have to accept that this as its never going to change.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

The problem now is, bumping a player and hitting them in the head is no longer a part of football. . The argument that this is a good or bad thing is a separate argument but I think you have to accept that this as its never going to change.

The bump was an example. It applies to tackles now. And spoiling.

You go onto the football field knowing the risks of the contact sport. Sanctions apply where there is a bad act, but body contact is the essence of the game and injuries are an unfortunate side effect.

 

[Mav]

Yes but the game is by nature a contact sport so contact will occur, whereas our society is predicated on the assumption that you can live your everyday life without somebody intending to stab you.

You play a game of footy, you're going to tackle and be tackled since it is part of the game. A perfectly executed tackle can injure someone through factors outside the tacklers control and they will get weeks, likewise somebody can literally punch somebody with intent to hurt them and get let off due to insufficient force or area of contact etc.

can you show me an example of a suspension from a perfectly executed tackle that injured someone through factors outside the tacklers control?

People get let off everyday after punching someone with insufficient force. What the MRP does is exactly the same as society.

 

[Mav]

The bump was an example. It applies to tackles now. And spoiling.

Correct. You can't hit someone in the head. (unless you knee them when tacking a hanger!) Its just the way it is now and we have to accept it. It's not going to change.

Mate, I'm a big believer that players are getting coached incorrectly. We used to teach, protect the ball with your body, stick you bum in not your head. It meant you protected yourself and if both players did it then neither would get hurt and first to the ball won the ball. Once guys were taught to go head first to try and draw a free kick it all changed. Especially when you got thugs that thought it was funny to clean people up.

We know a lot more about head injuries than back in our day and the AFL is not going to change their stance on protecting the head.

 

[Samsquanch]

So Bontempelli hits Haynes late and it’s now reported he could miss weeks with a fractured larynx.

But the mental giant in Christian only claims its low impact.

The MRP is such a farce now.

So why not come out and tell us the impact was high to medium but we gave him the potential Brownlow Medalist discount? Lol

He real question that needs to be answered is, was it malicious?

Hunter's dad was in the car with the engine running....









....in case the bont hurt his pinky when he punched the other bloke in the throat.






Funny isn't it how the MRP were forced to suspend Sam Durdin for a legal bump that resulted in an accidental "concussion" yet the same force of a suspension hasn't appeared since. Really funny.

 

[Samsquanch]

Bont still a Brownlow chance after quirk of MRO timing, GWS not happy

Superstar Bulldog would likely have faced a hefty suspension had the MRO known of Nick Haynes injury

m.afl.com.au

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle. What a load of shyte.

 

[DrZaius]

can you show me an example of a suspension from a perfectly executed tackle that injured someone through factors outside the tacklers control?

People get let off everyday after punching someone with insufficient force. What the MRP does is exactly the same as society.

Tackles him in the side, doesn't pin the arms, no lifting motion = suspended for a week since Amon ends up concussed due to Nic Nats height & weight advantage.

Do you think this was worth a week?

 

[Dan]

How can we forget Lachie Hunter's dad.....'we don't know if he's gonna be ok' - nek minit named in the side during the week and plays.

then this bit from Bont -

“We didn’t really like it at all, we thought there was quite a bit of malice in it,” he said.

“He will be ok, hopefully he can relax and be ok over the next couple of days. But we thought it was quite a bit unfair.”

That moment on changed how I viewed that individual. How petty can you be when you try to get another player suspended by over exaggerating what happened. The umpires thought it was nothing more than a free kick.

Piece of shit.

 

[Devington]

Bont still a Brownlow chance after quirk of MRO timing, GWS not happy

Superstar Bulldog would likely have faced a hefty suspension had the MRO known of Nick Haynes injury

m.afl.com.au

I dare Christian to come out and say his hands are tied by the letter of the (lol) law and he can't change his mind. I ****ing dare him.

 

[scottywiper]

Sam Durdin must be bumpuzzled. He copped strict liability and the Bont puts a bloke out for a month with a bump and gets a fine. You couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

HOW CAN YOU MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT ALL THE ****ING INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO YOU?!?!?

THESE campaignerS AREN'T EVEN AMATEURS.

THEY'RE INEPT NOVICES.