Preview 2023 National Draft Preview Thread [currently: #2, #14 (PA), #19 (PP) #40, #52, #60]

[Sphynx]

Watching Gulden tonight it's what to hope that McKercher can be if he comes here.

Nowhere near the same footskills.

A better athlete though.

 

[The acurate one]

Not sure you're following.

We got George with a 2022 2nd rounder by selling our 2023 2nd rounder. We're always a 2nd rounder short now off the CCJ deal.

Yes it’s fairly easy to follow. We used our 2023 second rounder in the 2022 draft. We time travelled into the future and nabbed George.
Hope that helps y’all.

 

[Brian Fontana]

Don’t think we can take Watson and Curtin as they both have question marks. Rekon it’s one of them and Colby. Colby looks ready made and has the trcks

 

[Midas]

When talking list builds, are people not understanding that we have two more drafts where we will be picking at the pointy end (top half anyway) and will have two picks that can get high level players? In addition, free agency will be a live option given the talent level at that point. We would have LDU, Thomas, Sheeze, Warlord, Larkey, Sanders, two of Curtin, Watson, McKercher etc plus two more top ten picks from the next two drafts. That’s enough elite talent (10) to be competing for silverware alongside the likes of Zurhaar, Phillips, Powell, Simpkin, Logue, Comben, Goater, George, Ford. You’d assume we might get one or two A Grade Free Agents at that point too, plus maybe hitting on a Fisher, Stephens or other second round picks we make or trade. So not wanting to take 170cm players, or needing a key back if we lose one, or getting upset if we take Tomlinson as a stop gap right now because we might be crap next year is pretty short sighted. If we can take two of: an elite small forward (Watson), an elite tall utility (Curtin) an elite runner (McKercher), big tall defender (O’Sullivan) or an aggressive forward (Caddy), it’s neither here nor there what we take this year as the list build will continue. Pick the players with winning attitudes that we can see competing in the biggest stage and want the footy in their hands in big moments. We will add the pieces we need in the next few years. We are in an exciting position and long term we need to just take the players we see have the most talent at early picks and pick for need with our Port pick and our future second rounders.

 

[Phillyroo]

When talking list builds, are people not understanding that we have two more drafts where we will be picking at the pointy end (top half anyway) and will have two picks that can get high level players? In addition, free agency will be a live option given the talent level at that point. We would have LDU, Thomas, Sheeze, Warlord, Larkey, Sanders, two of Curtin, Watson, McKercher etc plus two more top ten picks from the next two drafts. That’s enough elite talent (10) to be competing for silverware alongside the likes of Zurhaar, Phillips, Powell, Simpkin, Logue, Comben, Goater, George, Ford. You’d assume we might get one or two A Grade Free Agents at that point too, plus maybe hitting on a Fisher, Stephens or other second round picks we make or trade. So not wanting to take 170cm players, or needing a key back if we lose one, or getting upset if we take Tomlinson as a stop gap right now because we might be crap next year is pretty short sighted. If we can take two of: an elite small forward (Watson), an elite tall utility (Curtin) an elite runner (McKercher), big tall defender (O’Sullivan) or an aggressive forward (Caddy), it’s neither here nor there what we take this year as the list build will continue. Pick the players with winning attitudes that we can see competing in the biggest stage and want the footy in their hands in big moments. We will add the pieces we need in the next few years. We are in an exciting position and long term we need to just take the players we see have the most talent at early picks and pick for need with our Port pick and our future second rounders.

Yep to all of this…. But where is the 2nd top 10 pick coming from next year? I totally agree on all of the rest though. There will be options next year to finish this thing off.
Finn O’Sullivan next year would be Farking amazing, and the year after have a crack at some big name FA’s.

 

[Midas]

Yep to all of this…. But where is the 2nd top 10 pick coming from next year? I totally agree on all of the rest though. There will be options next year to finish this thing off.
Finn O’Sullivan next year would be Farking amazing, and the year after have a crack at some big name FA’s.

Two more top 10 picks would be 2024 & 2025. Not suggesting we have a second one next year ;-)!

 

[lockheed]

When talking list builds, are people not understanding that we have two more drafts where we will be picking at the pointy end (top half anyway) and will have two picks that can get high level players? In addition, free agency will be a live option given the talent level at that point. We would have LDU, Thomas, Sheeze, Warlord, Larkey, Sanders, two of Curtin, Watson, McKercher etc plus two more top ten picks from the next two drafts. That’s enough elite talent (10) to be competing for silverware alongside the likes of Zurhaar, Phillips, Powell, Simpkin, Logue, Comben, Goater, George, Ford. You’d assume we might get one or two A Grade Free Agents at that point too, plus maybe hitting on a Fisher, Stephens or other second round picks we make or trade. So not wanting to take 170cm players, or needing a key back if we lose one, or getting upset if we take Tomlinson as a stop gap right now because we might be crap next year is pretty short sighted. If we can take two of: an elite small forward (Watson), an elite tall utility (Curtin) an elite runner (McKercher), big tall defender (O’Sullivan) or an aggressive forward (Caddy), it’s neither here nor there what we take this year as the list build will continue. Pick the players with winning attitudes that we can see competing in the biggest stage and want the footy in their hands in big moments. We will add the pieces we need in the next few years. We are in an exciting position and long term we need to just take the players we see have the most talent at early picks and pick for need with our Port pick and our future second rounders.

Our many years of shitness mean that we have a good smattering of high quality players on the list. We'll pick up a few more this year, next year and so on. We have players on our list that probably wouldn't be on any other list, and, all going well, they'll be replaced by much better footballers over the next year or three.

We do need to nail the picks, develop the youngsters, build a game plan that will win us a grand final and rigorously enforce standards. But for the first time in two decades, I believe we have the opportunity to be serious contenders again.

 

[Masked Avenger]

Our many years of shitness mean that we have a good smattering of high quality players on the list. We'll pick up a few more this year, next year and so on. We have players on our list that probably wouldn't be on any other list, and, all going well, they'll be replaced by much better footballers over the next year or three.

We do need to nail the picks, develop the youngsters, build a game plan that will win us a grand final and rigorously enforce standards. But for the first time in two decades, I believe we have the opportunity to be serious contenders again.

Need to nail this years top end picks if Band 1 compo happens.

Sheezel (3) Wardlaw (4) LDU (4) Bont(4) Anderson (2) Petracca(2) Oliver(4) Daicos (4) Martin (4) JUH (1) - 10 good reasons not to trade down.

The old pick 4 goes alright just quietly.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

Watching Gulden tonight it's what to hope that McKercher can be if he comes here.

Watching Gulden last night is absolutely what we expect Phillips to be from the start of next year and what Phillips needs to strive for. A small guy using gut running, overlap carry and elite footskills - willing his team back into a finals game.

 

[Epictetus]

Watching Gulden last night is absolutely what we expect Phillips to be from the start of next year and what Phillips needs to strive for. A small guy using gut running, overlap carry and elite footskills - willing his team back into a finals game.

I can't begin to relay how unlikely I think it is that Will Phillips will ever EVER play like or at the level of Gulden. They are completely different footballers on completely different levels.

 

[Rampaging roos]

Based on that writeup West Coast probably have the smear piece on his character ready to post just in case people start catching on to him.

Another five for collard..can play.doesnt need many possessions to cause collateral damage.can play

 

[My Left Foote]

When talking list builds, are people not understanding that we have two more drafts where we will be picking at the pointy end (top half anyway) and will have two picks that can get high level players? In addition, free agency will be a live option given the talent level at that point. We would have LDU, Thomas, Sheeze, Warlord, Larkey, Sanders, two of Curtin, Watson, McKercher etc plus two more top ten picks from the next two drafts. That’s enough elite talent (10) to be competing for silverware alongside the likes of Zurhaar, Phillips, Powell, Simpkin, Logue, Comben, Goater, George, Ford. You’d assume we might get one or two A Grade Free Agents at that point too, plus maybe hitting on a Fisher, Stephens or other second round picks we make or trade. So not wanting to take 170cm players, or needing a key back if we lose one, or getting upset if we take Tomlinson as a stop gap right now because we might be crap next year is pretty short sighted. If we can take two of: an elite small forward (Watson), an elite tall utility (Curtin) an elite runner (McKercher), big tall defender (O’Sullivan) or an aggressive forward (Caddy), it’s neither here nor there what we take this year as the list build will continue. Pick the players with winning attitudes that we can see competing in the biggest stage and want the footy in their hands in big moments. We will add the pieces we need in the next few years. We are in an exciting position and long term we need to just take the players we see have the most talent at early picks and pick for need with our Port pick and our future second rounders.

I agree with all of this my only criticism is the lack of paragraph breaks.

 

[Luke72]

Not sure you're following.

We got George with a 2022 2nd rounder by selling our 2023 2nd rounder. We're always a 2nd rounder short now off the CCJ deal.

Maybe we could trade CCJ for a future 2nd rounder and square this mess up.

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

Tassie vs Gippy

Schoenmaker with 32 disposals, 7 marks, 4 tackles ,1 goal

J.Callinan 16 disposals, 3 goals

J.Leake 15 disposals, 1 goal

Z.Duursma 17 disposals , 8 marks, 1 goal

 

[SKD]

Another quiet game from Nick Watson…

 

[pupstar]

Another quiet game from Nick Watson…

Can happen with small Forwards looking forward to him in our colours hopefully.

 

[Liam Boy]

Not sure you're following.

We got George with a 2022 2nd rounder by selling our 2023 2nd rounder. We're always a 2nd rounder short now off the CCJ deal.

To be fair, the AFL refunded us the future 2nd and we spent it on Griffin Logue.

 

[Bren]

To be fair, the AFL refunded us the future 2nd and we spent it on Griffin Logue.

To be fair, it was refund of store credit only

 

[JGreezy]

Tassie vs Gippy

Shoenmaker with 32 disposals, 7 marks, 4 tackles ,1 goal

J.Callinan 16 disposals, 3 goals

J.Leake 15 disposals, 1 goal

Z.Duursma 17 disposals , 8 marks, 1 goal

We really need to get Schoenmaker. He is a gun.

 

[giantroo]

Another quiet game from Nick Watson…

13 disposals, 3 marks, kicked 1.1.

Interesting that he was named on the wing again.

Eastern Ranges
B: Brayden Laplanche (18), Cooper Trembath (59), Remy Maclean (55)
HB: Baylin Spencer (34), Joshua Tovey (15), Riley White (41)
C: Caleb Windsor (1), Jordan Hider (12), Nicholas Watson (5)
HF: Liam George (35), Jak Ryan (4), Isaac Tanzimat (39)
F: Jacob Vippond (20), Riley Weatherill (13), Ry Cantwell (21)
Fol: Lachlan Monteath (49), Tyson Sruk (23), Christian Moraes (9)
Int: Seth Macdonald (44), Jack Baldwin (17), Lincoln Wright (42), Cody Anderson (7)
E: Cameron Zani, Oliver Horlock, Lachy Guymer

 

[JGreezy]

13 disposals, 3 marks, kicked 1.1.

Interesting that he was named on the wing again.

I wonder which way they are going... showing off his other position versatility or hiding him

 

[SKD]

Certainly comfortable selecting Curtin and McKercher at 2 & 3. Would love the Wiz too and hope we get him but only for around pick 6-8..

 

[DunderHead]

We really need to get Schoenmaker. He is a gun.

Is he a good defender? seems to pick up a lot of uncontested possessions and marks. Draft profile says he’s a good contested mark but I haven’t seen any strong marking in his videos - or really much contested play at all.

What’s the consensus from the keen draft watchers?

 

[JGreezy]

My decision tree or whatever for our draft picks would be...

Offer WC pick 2 & Port's pick for pick 1

If they say yes = draft Reid at 1 and McKercher at 3

If they say no = draft McKercher at 2 and Curtin at 3

Unless, someone offers a trade for pick 2 that gets us two picks. One that can land us Watson and another that can land us one of Schoenmaker, O'Sullivan or Edwards.

So, my preferred outcomes from round 1 of the draft are;
1 - Reid, McKercher, Sanders
2 - McKercher, Sanders, Watson, KPP
3 - McKercher, Curtin, Sanders

I don't know how the trade back option can work with matching Sanders, maybe something like...

• we trade Port's pick to, say, Brisbane for their F1 and pick 45
• we trade 2 for 5 and Melb F1
• someone bids on Sanders and we match with 39, 45, 53, 59
• we then trade Lions F1, Melb F1 to WB for their picks 10 and 17 (probably 14 and 21 by now) that they'll lose in a Croft bid

We leave with 3 (McKercher), 5 (Watson), 9 (Sanders), 14 (Edwards), 21 (Schoenmaker or Murphy).