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[chubbspeterson]

We don't have to show our hand. But if Tauru is our target, we already have. If he isn't, we have allowed a rumour to circulate that weakens our trading position. Neither is good.

Other teams spread rumours to their advantage, Melbourne managed to get pick 9 off Essendon by pretending to be interested in Kako. Now they are pretending to be interested in Tauru in the hope we will take him at 2 and they will get an extra mid to pick from at 5. We should be showing heaps of interest in FOS and Draper, even if we have none at all.

Media reports don't weaken any teams trading position. Either a deal is offered a team wants or there's no trade.
Bombres would have likely had indications from more than just the Demons inside 9 that they would bid.
Keep our cards close to our chest and keep rival teams guessing as to what we'll do come draft night.

 

[King Hansen]

I don't understand how they can both consider FOS one of the "more complete prospects in this year's draft pool" and visualise his attributes like this:

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Maybe the top end isn't that great?

 

[Arden Street]

Neither, but North reaching at pick 2 and therefore Richmond getting a gun mid at pick 6 gets clicks.

Twomey on Gettable said today something along the lines of "North has been meeting with a lot of the expected 10-20 range group." And thinks something is in play.

the players i like in that 10-20 range are: Xavier Lindsay, Alix Tauru, Tobie Travaglia, Taj Hotton, Ollie Hannaford, Jobe Shanahan


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[The Talent Scout]

I agree that it could all be a beat up. But it isn't one that helps us, whether we want Tauru or not. We would be better off denying it or talking about how much we valued disposal or outside run or any of the things that Tauru isn't about.

Yeah, look I'm totally perplexed at the whole caper!

 

[Roos1991]

I think that's a very fair point, but I personally still think his potential upside is being vastly overrated when compared to Armstong/J.Whitlock/Shanahan or even Gerreyn, all of whom have equally as much upside and are genuine KP height.

Agree with your analysis here for sure on Tauru being overrated when compared to other talls around the mark (I like Gerreyn as much as any other tall). If we keep Pick 2, is there any scenario where we don't go with Lalor, Draper or Smith (my preference is Lalor)?

 

[Roos1991]

Was going to say something similar.

A shortcoming is a shortcoming. An honest trier without AFL talent isn't going to benefit the team anymore than a sublime talent with no competitiveness.

You can't get around it. There's been 16 Morrish Medalists across the last 10 Draft years.

These are the kids with the drive to stand out amongst their junior peers.

10 never made it to the AFL.

Clubs can't afford to blindly prioritise one skillset, as handy as that would be.

This is particularly true in a team like North who are still struggling for role clarity and structure. At Geelong or Sydney, maybe a different proposition.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Disposal is 100% elite.

Endurance and aerial has to be considered as well imo.

They’ve missed the mark on a few things.

They have Lombard as above average speed and he ran a 2.851 and topped the combine.

Correct, in my books, that's elite.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I can understand us liking Tauru's aerial ablity given we struggled to compete or mark the ball in the air, just not sure I believe we'll take him at pick 2. Think it's the Dees trying to get us to bite so they get one of the top 4 mids.

 

[shiraz]

I agree that it could all be a beat up. But it isn't one that helps us, whether we want Tauru or not. We would be better off denying it or talking about how much we valued disposal or outside run or any of the things that Tauru isn't about.

Last year, there was a lot of ink spilt on us taking Curtin. It became a trendy view in the media. I'm not sure it really made much sense, and I'm not sure if other teams believed it, but my sense is that they didn't believe it. I think a few on forums took it as gospel and it was a popular choice in a mock draft when the producer wanted other talent to slip through to other teams. From NMFC perspective, the benefit is that it helps obscure what we'll do, as the Curtin thing becomes the hot topic in every interview etc. Maybe Tauru is performing the same function this year.

I may well be wrong - I have no special information - but when I see people who are supposed to be serious having us take Tauru with 2 or 3, I strikes me as silly as us taking Curtin in the top 5. It's not real but has the benefit of concealing what we'll do.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Media reports don't weaken any teams trading position. Either a deal is offered a team wants or there's no trade.
Bombres would have likely had indications from more than just the Demons inside 9 that they would bid.
Keep our cards close to our chest and keep rival teams guessing as to what we'll do come draft night.

I've got a feeling everyone talking about who we pick or shouldn't pick might get a surprise come draft night, our picks are going to look so different but still the intrigue lingers, who really is our number one target and who is our key forward that has pretty much all our supporters talking about?

Is the answer to this question in a statement that Brady said not to long ago when he said "we are willing to drop down the order to get a couple of picks IF WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE DEAL, BUT NOT TO FAR DOWN, I'm going against my own judgement here on two of the players and one of which makes sense, the two players in question are the Tarryn Thomas replacement in Harvey Langford and Josh Smillie, the only other player is a key forward and not any key forward, the best in this draft class, Harry Armstrong.

We have not been linked to Harry or to either midfielder and while you could make a case for anyone in that top 10, I'm of the opinion the three likely players available at around pick 6, are those three right there. Sid/Finn/Jagga and Sam should be the first four players called out in the open draft, guess who that leaves?

 

[chubbspeterson]

I've got a feeling everyone talking about who we pick or shouldn't pick might get a surprise come draft night, our picks are going to look so different but still the intrigue lingers, who really is our number one target and who is our key forward that has pretty much all our supporters talking about?

Is the answer to this question in a statement that Brady said not to long ago when he said "we are willing to drop down the order to get a couple of picks IF WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE DEAL, BUT NOT TO FAR DOWN, I'm going against my own judgement here on two of the players and one of which makes sense, the two players in question are the Tarryn Thomas replacement in Harvey Langford and Josh Smillie, the only other player is a key forward and not any key forward, the best in this draft class, Harry Armstrong.

We have not been linked to Harry or to either midfielder and while you could make a case for anyone in that top 10, I'm of the opinion the three likely players available at around pick 6, are those three right there. Sid/Finn/Jagga and Sam should be the first four players called out in the open draft, guess who that leaves?

I think those three and Tauru would definitely be a consideration at pick 6 or 7.
And Cal backed up what RF08 suggested that we were interviewing some players in the teens.
Either we're covering our bases in the event a trade happens or something more is going on.

 

[LB2Snake]

Just watched yesterday’s(?) episode of Gettable….bloody hell those 2 are literally struggling for content……was a painful watch. Without a guest to talk to it’s a long drawn out guessing game. They seemed almost stoned as well. Just flat as a tack that show. I normally don’t mind it. But yesterday, sheeeeeesh!!!!

 

[giantroo]

Edps rankings/tiers

My top 55, I would pay more attention to the tiers and not the set order per-say as its neck and neck with those tiers.

1-3
Jagga Smith 181cm
Levi Ashcroft 179cm
Finn O’Sullivan 182cm

4-9
Sid Draper 182cm
Sam Lalor 188cm
Bo Allan 191cm
Xavier Lindsay 183cm
Josh Smillie 195cm
Tobie Travaglia 187cm

10-20
Taj Hotton 182cm
Isaac Kako 176cm
Leo Lombard 179cm
Alix Tauru 193cm
Harvey Langford 190cm
Luke Trainor 194cm
Murphy Reid 180cm
Joe Berry 181cm
Harry Armstrong 195cm
Tom Gross 181cm
Jesse Dattoli 179cm

21-41
Jasper Alger 183cm
Jonty Faull 195cm
Jack Whitlock 200cm
Jobe Shanahan 195cm
Alex Dodson 201cm
James Barrat 194cm
Oliver Hannaford 180cm
Cody Anderson 183cm
Sam Marshall 185cm
Matt Whitlock 198cm
William Hayes 180cm
Harrison Oliver 181cm
Christian Moraes 183cm
Lennox Hofmann 190cm
Angus Clarke 188cm
Thomas Sims 199cm
Noah Mraz 198cm
Jack Ough 194cm
Cooper Hynes 190cm
Lachie Jacques 185cm
Kayle Gerreyn 199cm

42-55
Sam Davidson 190cm
Pheonix Hargrave 181cm
Floyd Burmeister 199cm
Jayden Nguyen 178cm
Charlie West 194cm
Rhys Unwin 179cm
Jacob Newton 179cm
Luke Urquhart 190cm
Ben Camporeale 185cm
Charlie Nicholls 197cm
Luke Kennedy 181cm
Harry O’Farrell 197cm
Hamish Davis 190cm
Hugh Boxshall 188cm

 

[Firebat]

9 nice key position prospects in the 21-40 range. Be nice to secure some picks there haha

 

[The Dingrel]

[QUOTE="Reagan Smash, post: 86005262, member:142365”]Surely we’re not going to reach for Tauru at 2

I’m with you on that. When Brady mentioned only dropping back a few spots, Tauru didn’t even seem a top 10 consideration. I think we might have another target in mind.
[/QUOTE]

I have been giving that some thought as well, perhaps the whole Tauru thing is a big smoke screen,,,,,kind of reminds me of the 2017 draft when we were being linked to Cerra and Brayshaw, felt like a bit of a smoke screen with LDU the target (had Lions mates wanted him at 1 rather than Rayner). The players most likely available at a bit of a slide from 2 in my mind would be Smillie and Armstrong. Im no expert but Tauru while showing potential, looks more of a speculative late first/early second rather than a top 10 pick.

 

[The Dingrel]

Said it a month or so ago, he reminds me of Taylor Garner.

Beautiful ability to power into opponents with a lean bit tough frame. Gifted leap and mark and that frenetic playing style.

But also a rough kicking style that's more effective in chaos than open play.

Thats a pretty good comparison KC, although taller. Garner was what pick 15 IIRC? Thats about where I reckon Tauru belongs in the draft too!

 

[kool kangas]

Edps rankings/tiers

My top 55, I would pay more attention to the tiers and not the set order per-say as its neck and neck with those tiers.

1-3
Jagga Smith 181cm
Levi Ashcroft 179cm
Finn O’Sullivan 182cm

4-9
Sid Draper 182cm
Sam Lalor 188cm
Bo Allan 191cm
Xavier Lindsay 183cm
Josh Smillie 195cm
Tobie Travaglia 187cm

10-20
Taj Hotton 182cm
Isaac Kako 176cm
Leo Lombard 179cm
Alix Tauru 193cm
Harvey Langford 190cm
Luke Trainor 194cm
Murphy Reid 180cm
Joe Berry 181cm
Harry Armstrong 195cm
Tom Gross 181cm
Jesse Dattoli 179cm

21-41
Jasper Alger 183cm
Jonty Faull 195cm
Jack Whitlock 200cm
Jobe Shanahan 195cm
Alex Dodson 201cm
James Barrat 194cm
Oliver Hannaford 180cm
Cody Anderson 183cm
Sam Marshall 185cm
Matt Whitlock 198cm
William Hayes 180cm
Harrison Oliver 181cm
Christian Moraes 183cm
Lennox Hofmann 190cm
Angus Clarke 188cm
Thomas Sims 199cm
Noah Mraz 198cm
Jack Ough 194cm
Cooper Hynes 190cm
Lachie Jacques 185cm
Kayle Gerreyn 199cm

42-55
Sam Davidson 190cm
Pheonix Hargrave 181cm
Floyd Burmeister 199cm
Jayden Nguyen 178cm
Charlie West 194cm
Rhys Unwin 179cm
Jacob Newton 179cm
Luke Urquhart 190cm
Ben Camporeale 185cm
Charlie Nicholls 197cm
Luke Kennedy 181cm
Harry O’Farrell 197cm
Hamish Davis 190cm
Hugh Boxshall 188cm

GR can you remove or hightlight F/S and Academy players so that all other players can be shown in a more true context of their positioning in the draft for clubs wanting to select them...Thanks

 

[DuckYeah]

Fast and a good kick ey?

 

[My Left Foote]

9 nice key position prospects in the 21-40 range. Be nice to secure some picks there haha

We can use pick 25… wait… hang on… oh NOOOOOOO

 

[Shinboner1]

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Fast and a good kick ey?

So he'd be competing with bergman, goater and hardeman for a spot?

 

[DuckYeah]

So he'd be competing with bergman, goater and hardeman for a spot?

Bergman will be gone. He looks a better kick than both Hardeman and Goater .. he’d be quicker than Hardeman.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

I've got a feeling everyone talking about who we pick or shouldn't pick might get a surprise come draft night, our picks are going to look so different but still the intrigue lingers, who really is our number one target and who is our key forward that has pretty much all our supporters talking about?

Is the answer to this question in a statement that Brady said not to long ago when he said "we are willing to drop down the order to get a couple of picks IF WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE DEAL, BUT NOT TO FAR DOWN, I'm going against my own judgement here on two of the players and one of which makes sense, the two players in question are the Tarryn Thomas replacement in Harvey Langford and Josh Smillie, the only other player is a key forward and not any key forward, the best in this draft class, Harry Armstrong.

We have not been linked to Harry or to either midfielder and while you could make a case for anyone in that top 10, I'm of the opinion the three likely players available at around pick 6, are those three right there. Sid/Finn/Jagga and Sam should be the first four players called out in the open draft, guess who that leaves?

I expect that after draft night, whoever we take will seem obvious and everyone will act as though they knew it all along.

 

[Rooboys Rool]

In b4 end of thread I.

I reckon we should take Logan McDonald with pick 2.